Shame on you, Mucinex and others.

[dullard]

Fixed that.

Nothing shown at all about reactions in humans. Might or might not be true for us.

Study: cold humans catch more colds:
http://fampra.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/6/608.full

This hasn't been thoroughly researched, but in every study that I've ever seen in humans or in animals, the cold temperature increased the rate of transmission of the cold virus.

Sometimes, the study focused on whether it is easier to catch due to cold temperatures affecting the immune system. Sometimes the study focused on transmission and found that cold humans/animals shed the virus for longer. Either way, temperature and humidity are both related.

 

[Exterous]

Was just at CVS and saw a guy stocking Mucinex. Took a look and no label over the active ingredients. Don't know if thats common or not though as I can't remember the last time i've bought a name brand OTC

 

[purbeast0]

I don't know. It seems like those summer colds are the worst ones to me. I'm not sure if it's because of the heat or those ones are just stronger. You still get colds in warm weather climates anyhow.

i 100% get way more colds when it's the colder times of the year than i do in the warmer times of the year.

 

[CZroe]

Another nail-biter exposed.

So I've come down with a bit of a cold from training too hard

Last I checked, respiratory infections were caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi, and maybe prions. "Training too hard" might inflame your tissues and you might develop a cough from the irritation, it might even put you in contact with sweaty bacteria and virus-riddle equipment (ZOMG! MRSA!), but training harder will not give you "a bit of a cold."

You know this. Use your brain! You're like my coworkers who keep insisting that my cold or cough came from the three minutes I spent walking from the door to my car in the cold without a jacket. 🙄

Flu season is when heat-seeking behavior causes people to spend more time together indoors, not by being cold for a few minutes. People in warmer regions experience a spike during flu season because of the influx of infected people carrying it from the colder regions so this did not happen as much before modern travel habits.

People with coats and jackets appropriate for the weather outside will spend more time outside and away from others but it isn't some magical shield against outdoor airborne viruses looking for a host careless enough to go out without a coat. Unless it's cold enough that survival in the cold becomes an issue, coats are for comfort.

Just like we laugh at past generations thinking that birds hibernated underwater or that maggots and flies just spontaneously come from rotting meat, future generations will laugh at us for saying and perpetuating such stupid things when we should know better. Heck, other culture probably do that already. We have no business laughing at South Koreans for having timers on their fans when we continue perpetuating equally stupid things.

Other factors are that people's noses run in the cold and the cold preserves their nose-wipings on other surfaces for longer. Neither of those factors are changed by wearing a jacket.

Edit: I see this was covered.

 

[highland145]

Was just at CVS and saw a guy stocking Mucinex. Took a look and no label over the active ingredients. Don't know if thats common or not though as I can't remember the last time i've bought a name brand OTC

I think OP was on the feminine hygiene isle by mistake. Musinex, vagisil, who knew there was a difference.



kidding, OP, kidding.

 

[ControlD]

Last I checked, respiratory infections were caused by viruses, bacteria, fungi, and maybe prions. "Training too hard" might inflame your tissues and you might develop a cough from the irritation, but it will not give you "a bit of a cold."

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I didn't read his post as literally saying working out too hard caused the cold, but more likely it compromised his immune system making it more likely to catch a cold.

(edit) I see you amended, so I shall do the same.

 

[CZroe]

I didn't read his post as literally saying working out too hard caused the cold, but more likely it compromised his immune system making it more likely to catch a cold.



(edit) I see you amended, so I shall do the same.

Oversimplification is likely why people think going outside without a coat for a few minutes "will" make you sick.

 

[highland145]

I didn't read his post as literally saying working out too hard caused the cold, but more likely it compromised his immune system making it more likely to catch a cold.

(edit) I see you amended, so I shall do the same.

Who let the polite bastard in?



😛

 

[mikeymikec]

OP, which ingredient were you originally looking for?

 

[ControlD]

Who let the polite bastard in?



😛

Sorry. I got confused where I was for a few minutes. 😀

 

[ControlD]

Oversimplification is likely why people think going outside without a coat for a few minutes "will" make you sick.

That, or it is parents like myself that use that line to get our kids to put their coats on.

 

[SP33Demon]

I didn't read his post as literally saying working out too hard caused the cold, but more likely it compromised his immune system making it more likely to catch a cold.

(edit) I see you amended, so I shall do the same.

This is what I meant, yes. I know that training extremely hard isn't going to directly cause a cold but it will suppress your immune system a bit... especially if the week before you were traveling for business and only getting 5 hrs of sleep/night. Also didn't help that I picked up the virus that my lifting friends all had, so it was probably on the equipment.

 

[ControlD]

This is what I meant, yes. I know that training extremely hard isn't going to directly cause a cold but it will suppress your immune system a bit... especially if the week before you were traveling for business and only getting 5 hrs of sleep/night. Also didn't help that I picked up the virus that my lifting friends all had, so it was probably on the equipment.

Were you on a plane? Those things are like incubation chambers for colds.

 

[SP33Demon]

OP, which ingredient were you originally looking for?

Just an antihistamine/decongestant like diphenhydramine hcl or phenylephrine, cough suppressant like Dextrometh and expectorant like guafenisin. Any of combo of those would be fine since they help you sleep as well. My main go to for ingestion for the cough were Halls (big bag at price clubs) cough drops and some honey in tea. My wife did have some Mucinex DM (Dextro + Guaf) 12 hour pills so I took those and they didn't seem to last 12 hours like the package claimed. Oh well.

 

[dullard]

Were you on a plane? Those things are like incubation chambers for colds.

Plane air is HEPA filtered before it blows on you. I think the pilot may possibly set to be either all external air or a mix of internal/external air. But it is HEPA filtered. Studies of transmissions on planes have shown next to no actual transmission beyond the person right next to you or a row in front/behind you. If you are worried, open up the air nozzle to bathe you in the HEPA filtered air so that you are even more protected from the nearby passengers.

The real transmission when flying is the long lines for checking in, security, food, waiting for the plane to arrive, and boarding/deboarding. That is when you are herded like cattle with a bunch of sick people.

You may get sick when flying, but it almost certainly wasn't transmitted during the flight portion.

 

[SP33Demon]

Were you on a plane? Those things are like incubation chambers for colds.

Yep, already had a minor cough that Monday when I arrived via plane (no kids on that flight), worked all week + did some tough workouts at a nearby gym, then flew back Friday night on a plane with kids coughing which made me cough a little (was mostly over what I had from Monday) until I forgot to turn on the air blower and that made me feel better. Got good sleep, then Saturday morning trained with my team and by Monday was sick with what 2 guys at the gym had (bad cough, hard to breathe from mucus). Finally broke it this past Friday after missing a day of work last week and then hit a squat triple PR on Saturday (445) and rested Sunday and yesterday. Had my wife sleep in a separate room since I didn't want her to get it and she's still ok, luckily. She got a slight sore throat but seems to be fine now.

 

[CZroe]

That, or it is parents like myself that use that line to get our kids to put their coats on.

...so they'll never feel the discomfort and learn the consequences of their own choices? The truth works just as well:
"Wear this coat or don't complain to me about the cold."

If they aren't at risk of freezing to death, why do YOU want them to influence them to wear their coats with anything beyond the simplest truth?

 

[ControlD]

...so they'll never feel the discomfort and learn the consequences of their own choices? The truth works just as well:
"Wear this coat or don't complain to me about the cold."

If they aren't at risk of freezing to death, why do YOU want them to influence them to wear their coats with anything beyond the simplest truth?

In this day and age, I suppose it's so someone doesn't report me to child protection services. 😀

 

[highland145]

...so they'll never feel the discomfort and learn the consequences of their own choices? The truth works just as well:
"Wear this coat or don't complain to me about the cold."

If they aren't at risk of freezing to death, why do YOU want them to influence them to wear their coats with anything beyond the simplest truth?

Ha, not the same "times." Every nosy-body in 5 miles would have called DSS because you're a "bad" parent. IIRC, the boy was in 7th grade. He insisted on wearing shorts every day. One of the teachers wouldn't let him have recess because it was cold out. I had to call the school and explain to her that he chose the shorts even though he knew it was cold and he would have recess if the other kids did. No more problems.

And the little rugrats wear you down so, some days, you'll tell them anything so that they're compliant.

 

[lsd]

Plane air is HEPA filtered before it blows on you. I think the pilot may possibly set to be either all external air or a mix of internal/external air. But it is HEPA filtered. Studies of transmissions on planes have shown next to no actual transmission beyond the person right next to you or a row in front/behind you. If you are worried, open up the air nozzle to bathe you in the HEPA filtered air so that you are even more protected from the nearby passengers.

The real transmission when flying is the long lines for checking in, security, food, waiting for the plane to arrive, and boarding/deboarding. That is when you are herded like cattle with a bunch of sick people.

You may get sick when flying, but it almost certainly wasn't transmitted during the flight portion.

Cabin recirculated air is filtered but the main air off the engines is not. Either way I'd be more worried about the surfaces you are touching. The rag that was used to clean your tray table may have been used on 15 other planes that night....

 

[Ferzerp]

Just an antihistamine/decongestant like diphenhydramine hcl or phenylephrine, cough suppressant like Dextrometh and expectorant like guafenisin. Any of combo of those would be fine since they help you sleep as well. My main go to for ingestion for the cough were Halls (big bag at price clubs) cough drops and some honey in tea. My wife did have some Mucinex DM (Dextro + Guaf) 12 hour pills so I took those and they didn't seem to last 12 hours like the package claimed. Oh well.

Benadryl has no decongestant properties, and fake sudafed has no antihistamine (or decongestant to be honest) properties. They aren't an either or combo.

Anyway, there is little reason to buy the combo drugs. By the ones you need, and take each. If it is allergies with congestion, get an antihistamine and then meth registry sudafed. If you aren't coughing, don't take something with dxm, etc. This also gives you the benefit of not killing your poor liver with too much acetaminophen when you don't really need it.

 

[core2slow]

In my history of getting sick, there's nothing a generic bottle of cough syrup and 500mg of tylenol can't cure. I pound-attack when i feel a pre-symptom start to come on and by the end of the 2nd day of relentless medicinal bombardment, im back to my normal self.

 

[Rakehellion]

So I've come down with a bit of a cold from training too hard, and go to buy Mucinex cold syrup and there's 3-4 different types. So I always check the labels to see what's in them, and then compare that to the store brand and see the price difference. If dramatic price difference or ingredient quantity is more in store brand, I buy store brand.

The problem is that Mucinex covers up their ingredients now, and you have to magically peel back the label. WTF? Since I have pretty meaty fingers, I wasted about 3 minutes trying to peel it back and ended up almost completely ripping the label off. After another minute or two (I have super short nails btw) of trying to open it, I succeed. Needless to say, it's not easy for a normal person with super short nails to peel the label back just to view it. In the end, it was mostly the same exact ingredients so I bought the store brand as a vote against that make-the-customer-work-for-our-ingredients-labeling. F that.

Which leads me to the question: What is so freaking hard about using the normal labeling like the store brand products? Are the big brands losing so much money that they have to resort to such tactics in hopes that the consumer will simply pick their product off brand recognition and not even look at what the hell is in the product? I think some of the other name brands there did it as well. How freaking annoying. If any cold product reps are reading this - stop wasting my time or I'm going to simply buy the brands that aren't hiding what's in their product. I know most Americans aren't reading labels but I do. So quit the BS.

1. Lose weight.
2. Look it up the information on your phone.