Shadowboxing with dumbells?

Titan

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So let's see, about 13 years ago I was a teenager, but big (I was 6' at 12 years old) and had been training in Tae Kwon Do for 2 years. I had been to a number of tournaments including nationals but at my school they were a fun activity, not a requirement. At 6'1, 230 pounds, I was always put in the adult male divisions because I would crush kids my age. Because you hit with full force.

Anywho, by my 6th tournament, my dad got a camcorder and I got to see how much I sucked. I took it personally and started training on my own. And in 1 month I was at another tournament and did much better, took gold in sparring.

To supplement my classes, I happen to have a set of 5 pound plastic dumbbells and I would put some music on, and shadow-box to my reflection in my bedroom window. Since I had good technique with a lot of these moves, I practiced jabs, backfists, uppercuts, reverse punches and some blocks. the resistance was good and I would break it down into sets and ultimately build speed. I had a killer high-block reverse punch combo after that.

Later I got my black belt and taught as head instructor, and even though I have been out of it almost 10 years, the moves are still ingrained in my muscle memory. People kinda freak out when a 300+ pound guy does precise jump-spinning moves on the street, but I try to avoid them so I don't injure myself. I move very efficiently from my training is my point, which is what separates the pre-black belts from black belts.

So I was in dick's the other day and came upon the rack of rubber-coated dumbbells and picked up a set of 5's. Man they were light, like almost nothing, i guess weighing around 370 now makes me stronger from carrying my weight. I searched for what felt like the old 5 pounds and 10 was the mark. I am so tempted now to get a set of 10's and do some shadowboxing again. My gym has some metal dumbbells, not sure about plastic ones. I have a good grip but the plastic ones make sure i have something better to hold onto, and reduce any risk of flinging them.

So if I go to the gym and start boxing with the dumbbells, will I get yelled at? I maintain control but can jab quick. probably better to get my own and try at home?

Anybody do this or seen it done before? I think it's great because even in these techniques you use your whole body and this builds stabilizers and connective tissue.

Cliffs:
1) I box with dumbbells. Watch out!

I apologize for the life story.
 

glenn beck

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I see women doing it all the time at my gym, they hold bootcamp type classes at our gym so I think that is what they get it from
 

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When I was taking muay thai we used 5 or 8 lb. dummbells, but nothing heavier than that. It could cause shoulder problems if you go too heavy. Just to be safe, don't do it in front of a mirror. You know what feels right, so why risk breaking something?
 
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Boxing with dumbbells is a bad idea. It's like running with ankle weights. It puts too great of a strain on the wrong things (aka the joints and ligaments rather than the muscles). If you wanna box stronger and faster, lift heavy and explosively. Honestly, you have a high risk of ruining your rotator cuff if you box with weights.
 

Terzo

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Boxing with dumbbells is a bad idea. It's like running with ankle weights. It puts too great of a strain on the wrong things (aka the joints and ligaments rather than the muscles). If you wanna box stronger and faster, lift heavy and explosively. Honestly, you have a high risk of ruining your rotator cuff if you box with weights.

Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on running with a weighted vest?
 
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Originally posted by: Terzo
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Boxing with dumbbells is a bad idea. It's like running with ankle weights. It puts too great of a strain on the wrong things (aka the joints and ligaments rather than the muscles). If you wanna box stronger and faster, lift heavy and explosively. Honestly, you have a high risk of ruining your rotator cuff if you box with weights.

Out of curiosity, what's your opinion on running with a weighted vest?

Well, this is where I think about the military and backpack running. It puts a great strain on spine and can lead to joint degeneration. I understand that backpacks flop around and are on the back entirely while a weighted vest has equally distributed weight on the front and the back. However, I would still be really wary of running with it. I would probably look things up to see if there's any research on it before I did it. What kind of running did you have in mind btw? Long distance or short sprints?
 

Terzo

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It would definitely be long distance (say ~5 k). This is more me wondering though, I don't see myself buying a weighted vest in the near future. I remember I looked into it a while ago and saw some talk about how even weighted vests constrict your natural form (and breathing) but I don't have any sources, so I could be misremembering.
 

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There's no benefit to boxing with dumbbells. No pro boxers, MMA fighters, etc use this technique so why would you? If you want to punch faster,stronger...just practice more. Do sets of speed with your punches and sets where you just try to hit hard. This will get you better a lot faster then doing any silly dumbbell things.
 

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Originally posted by: coreyb
There's no benefit to boxing with dumbbells. No pro boxers, MMA fighters, etc use this technique so why would you? If you want to punch faster,stronger...just practice more. Do sets of speed with your punches and sets where you just try to hit hard. This will get you better a lot faster then doing any silly dumbbell things.

That is correct. I never boxed with dumbbells. Besides the risk of injury that SociallyChallenged mentioned, there are much better ways to increase your strength, speed, and explosive strength.
 

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ATA TKD by chance?

Brudda, for punching power, hit the heavy bag. For speed, timing, and focus, target mitts, or if training alone, the double end bag/speed ball.
 

Titan

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you 6'1 370? jesus

Well, 6'3" to 6"4 370 now. When I was 12 I was 6'0 and 6'3 by 18.

Yeah, I know, I'm huge. At least I'm not disgusting, but yeah not the most attractive I can be.

I'm wondering though when I get down to 300 even, if I can keep working off fat and maintain a weight of 300? Would seem easier than to lose weight and then put it back on as muscle. I guess it depends on what kinda lifting routine I do.

Yeah when I was 240 I could still throw jump-spinning crescent kicks, I would double them up in rapid succession usually.
 
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Originally posted by: Titan
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
are you 6'1 370? jesus

Well, 6'3" to 6"4 370 now. When I was 12 I was 6'0 and 6'3 by 18.

Yeah, I know, I'm huge. At least I'm not disgusting, but yeah not the most attractive I can be.

I'm wondering though when I get down to 300 even, if I can keep working off fat and maintain a weight of 300? Would seem easier than to lose weight and then put it back on as muscle. I guess it depends on what kinda lifting routine I do.

Yeah when I was 240 I could still throw jump-spinning crescent kicks, I would double them up in rapid succession usually.

If you read the fat loss sticky, the point of being on a resistance training program while being in a caloric deficit is to maintain lean muscle mass by default. If you do that, you will maintain quite a bit of muscle. However, the body works differently at such high weights. When you start to get that big, you are able to have a much greater muscle mass. That's why sumo wrestlers are so huge. I doubt you'll be able to maintain 300 pounds, however, you should be able to maintain a fairly high lean muscle mass depending on how you go about losing your weight.
 

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Please, I'm begging this of you, don't be the guy shadowboxing at the gym with dumbells. For the love of God, no.

I saw a guy a month back shadow-throwing, like a baseball pitch, with a 5 lb dumbell. It was hard to work out near him, I wanted him to leave so dearly.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Please, I'm begging this of you, don't be the guy shadowboxing at the gym with dumbells. For the love of God, no.

I saw a guy a month back shadow-throwing, like a baseball pitch, with a 5 lb dumbell. It was hard to work out near him, I wanted him to leave so dearly.

When I see those people, half of me wants to tell them it's a bad idea to do whatever they're doing. The other half wants to hit them with something really hard.
 

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6'3" at 370? Wow!

Maybe try to get back to 250. I'm just trying to make a mental picture of you...Brock Lesnar is about 265 lbs at 6 foot 3 and yet you outweigh him by more than a hundred.