yeah - the video drivers that came on the CD are not good. Definitely upgrade to the reference drivers release.
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I am seeing the opposite... With the original CD drivers it works fine, but with drivers I just downloaded from SIS website, "Full Package" v2.06, the problem first appears, framerate of MPEG playback is too high, including audio playback rate.
Edit: Whatever the problem was, after backtracking, checking, reinstalling the same new (v2.06) drivers again, the problem has disappeared... very odd.
Trying to get MediaPlayer to work properly with divx is a pointless exercise that I gave up on long ago...
Picking up my board at the mail room today, hopefully have time to play with it this week...
Picking up my board at the mail room today, hopefully have time to play with it this week...
Just got my board. Now to start setting it up...
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that there is what looks like a LVDS header on the motherboard too, might be very interesting to see if it can be used.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that there is what looks like a LVDS header on the motherboard too, might be very interesting to see if it can be used.
mindless1
I updated the BIOS with your modded one, and it's been great. My not-so-great Celeron 633, which just cannot run on 100Mhz FSB, is working great at 95Mhz FSB (902.5Mhz). I love the fixed PCI speed of 33Mhz regardless of FSB.
Thanks.
I updated the BIOS with your modded one, and it's been great. My not-so-great Celeron 633, which just cannot run on 100Mhz FSB, is working great at 95Mhz FSB (902.5Mhz). I love the fixed PCI speed of 33Mhz regardless of FSB.
Thanks.
Interesting info from P2You SFF S370 product page:
If there diagram is the same one we've been seeing, I will probably take them up on their offer.
They must have been feeling some pressure.
If there diagram is the same one we've been seeing, I will probably take them up on their offer.
They must have been feeling some pressure.
Just ordering the parts for this beast. Anyone know why a 1GHz Celeron (100Mhz bus) would not work on this MB? The are available for ~$41 and seem like more bang for the buck than the 700 MHz Celeron (66MHz bus) offered by Directron.com at ~$27.
I just might return mine. Then turn around and buy another one. Save me $5.
rammjet:
Make sure you are looking at coppermine based celerons, the tualitans will not work without some work since they have the lower voltage requirements.
btw, where did you see them for that price?
rammjet:
Make sure you are looking at coppermine based celerons, the tualitans will not work without some work since they have the lower voltage requirements.
btw, where did you see them for that price?
Here is the P2You solution: same damn thing they've been telling us all along.
They will be getting mine back. Screw them. I want to SEE this thing working, with my own eyes. I will not believe it till I do, cuz no one here has gotten it, and I find it hard to believe with all the different people, OS, and configurations that we've all done. Have fun with your board Mindless1.
I wonder why it took them 5 days to put that stupid IR picture and a few lines of directions on their site. I also like how they tell you nothing useful, like exactly what BIOS settings to use, just that you have to change the settings.
I say again, screw them!
They will be getting mine back. Screw them. I want to SEE this thing working, with my own eyes. I will not believe it till I do, cuz no one here has gotten it, and I find it hard to believe with all the different people, OS, and configurations that we've all done. Have fun with your board Mindless1.
I wonder why it took them 5 days to put that stupid IR picture and a few lines of directions on their site. I also like how they tell you nothing useful, like exactly what BIOS settings to use, just that you have to change the settings.
I say again, screw them!
they've posted the connection method, but it's the same drawing of the IR connector with an arrow pointing to it that they've been emailing out.
I UNDERSTAND that this is where it's supposed to go, however the connector on the motherboard is a single row of 5 or so pins, while the adapter on the cable we all received is much longer and the pins do not appear to line up. They do NOT address this at all. they simply show the connection point on the motherboard.
I really want a real answer from them. I want them to show a picture or a drawing of the exact placement of the cable on the IR receiver to the motherboard. where do the pins line up? which direction does the red power wire face. come on, folks. There's a lot of brainpower in this thread, and none of us have really gotten this working. I appreciate the offer to take it back, but what I really want is it to work as they have said it does.
I UNDERSTAND that this is where it's supposed to go, however the connector on the motherboard is a single row of 5 or so pins, while the adapter on the cable we all received is much longer and the pins do not appear to line up. They do NOT address this at all. they simply show the connection point on the motherboard.
I really want a real answer from them. I want them to show a picture or a drawing of the exact placement of the cable on the IR receiver to the motherboard. where do the pins line up? which direction does the red power wire face. come on, folks. There's a lot of brainpower in this thread, and none of us have really gotten this working. I appreciate the offer to take it back, but what I really want is it to work as they have said it does.
Ooops. I did order a Tualatin Celeron (FCPGA*2*). Guess that cpu uses a lower voltage this MB does not support. This makes CPU selection more frustrating...
Absolutely ridiculous, why the hell couldn't they provide more info than this. They obviously never had this thing working if they can't provide adequate information. ANyone can read the manual and find where the IR connector is on the board. I now have no use for this thing. I completely agree with diggum. They should provide a picture of how the cable connects to the mb, what the BIOS needs to be set to. I highly doubt they will respond to the emails to ask for a refund. I have emailed several times with only one response. Their support sucks.
Refund and tech info posted on Package2You product page. I didn't order one of these, but they look interesting. FYI, I've gotten a couple of good deals from them, no problems, and fair shipping too.
"Update 11/29/02:
Our tests show, in order to setup the IR Keboard/Mouse, you will need to install the OS using a -->USB<-- keyboard/Mouse. Once windows is installed the IR keyboard will setup. We will be posting the diagram of where the plugin for the IR transceiver is located, hopefully by Monday. However, this is actually shown in your Owners Manual.
New Update 12/02/02:
Installing the IR transceiver & Keyboard CLICK HERE
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Due to the updated information on this item, Those that purchased this combo prior to 11/29 and do not want to mess with the updated configuration of the Keyboard we are offering the following:
- Fedex to pickup item from customer at OUR expense,
- Refund including shipping of said item,
- Wave restock fee of returned item,
- To do this, Please reference this & contact Support
We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
Bios update is located HERE for easy download <---- UPDATED 11/29/02 "
"Update 11/29/02:
Our tests show, in order to setup the IR Keboard/Mouse, you will need to install the OS using a -->USB<-- keyboard/Mouse. Once windows is installed the IR keyboard will setup. We will be posting the diagram of where the plugin for the IR transceiver is located, hopefully by Monday. However, this is actually shown in your Owners Manual.
New Update 12/02/02:
Installing the IR transceiver & Keyboard CLICK HERE
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Due to the updated information on this item, Those that purchased this combo prior to 11/29 and do not want to mess with the updated configuration of the Keyboard we are offering the following:
- Fedex to pickup item from customer at OUR expense,
- Refund including shipping of said item,
- Wave restock fee of returned item,
- To do this, Please reference this & contact Support
We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
Bios update is located HERE for easy download <---- UPDATED 11/29/02 "
All of us who have purchased one of these tried this long before they ever posted this. They only posted this because we have sent multiple emails and probably other customers emailed them as well. They are just covering their asses now. All the info they have gotten for this motherboard combo, undoubtley came from this thread. I have sent them at least a dozen emails about this with only one respone which was worthless. I am not saying their deals are not good, but their tech support sucks. They have "claimed" to have gotten this to work before they were going to sell them, but magically misplaced their notes on how to get it to work.
Does anyone know of another motherboard like this?? Flex ATX, built in video with RCA or S-Vid out, preferably built in sound, not too concerned with built in LAN as I will run it wireless, and preferably S370. I would still like to do my MP3 project, just not with POS customer service from P2You. Damn that IR keyboard not working......
I tried one more time today to get the IrDA working without any success.
Then, I started thinking about what I should do with these things, and these are my thoughts.
1) The keyboard and receiver are junks. mindless mentioned somewhere that they work if you hardwire the receiver to a PS2 port of aother motherboard, so you could get some use out of them. Otherwise, they are junks.
2) The motherboard is pretty good. It's a fully integrated FlexATX board. You are missing sound, but you can get it either by soldering on a sound I/O ports or getting a low profile sound card (ie. Creative Labs CT5807/5808). This is the third FlexATX board I have tried, and I personally like this the best because of the overclocking ability using the modded BIOS. $35 shipped just for the motherboard is not too bad (I paid $45 shipped, and that's a bit too much).
3) The quality of TV out is lame, although it's a lot better with SVideo out. Therefore, even if I get the IrDA keyboard working, I am not sure if I will be hooking it up to TV.
4) A lot of people included myself has invested some money on other components in order to build around this motherboard. We will need to figure out what to do with them if we ever decide to return the combo to package2you.
As far as I am concerned, because of the modifications I have made to the motherboard, Package2you would most likely not accept mine. However, even if it were not the case, I would probably keep the board. I am just going to leave a nasty feedback for package2you on Resellerrating.com and get back to them that way.
Then, I started thinking about what I should do with these things, and these are my thoughts.
1) The keyboard and receiver are junks. mindless mentioned somewhere that they work if you hardwire the receiver to a PS2 port of aother motherboard, so you could get some use out of them. Otherwise, they are junks.
2) The motherboard is pretty good. It's a fully integrated FlexATX board. You are missing sound, but you can get it either by soldering on a sound I/O ports or getting a low profile sound card (ie. Creative Labs CT5807/5808). This is the third FlexATX board I have tried, and I personally like this the best because of the overclocking ability using the modded BIOS. $35 shipped just for the motherboard is not too bad (I paid $45 shipped, and that's a bit too much).
3) The quality of TV out is lame, although it's a lot better with SVideo out. Therefore, even if I get the IrDA keyboard working, I am not sure if I will be hooking it up to TV.
4) A lot of people included myself has invested some money on other components in order to build around this motherboard. We will need to figure out what to do with them if we ever decide to return the combo to package2you.
As far as I am concerned, because of the modifications I have made to the motherboard, Package2you would most likely not accept mine. However, even if it were not the case, I would probably keep the board. I am just going to leave a nasty feedback for package2you on Resellerrating.com and get back to them that way.
Socket370 FlexATX boards I have seen are either based on Intel I810 or SIS730. And I have not seen any FlexATX boards with integrated TV out. You can get the feature by installing a PCI videocard w/ TV out.
EDIT: The board which comes inside the Shuttle cube box based on VIA PLE has Video out. If you could find one, you would be able to get the feature without using a PCI video.
If anyone is interested, I have MSI MS-6312 socket 370 FlexATX motherboard based on Intel I810E chipset.
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Definitely with you on this, I would like to keep mine for the MP3 project as well, but the with IR keyboard not working it just sucks. As fxsts mentioned, I have invested in other components for this motherboard which sucks. Because I return the mb then I have the left over components that I either sell for a loss or keep and find some use for them by spendgin more money.
I noticed Package2you support hasn't had the guts to post on this board again. I guess the pre-testing story was pure myth. I am glad to see them offering a full refund.
What a ride, I too thought it was a deal and could set up an MP3/Video box. Had to spend more on Netvista case, a Celeron CPU, HSF, ATX power extension cable, and a cheap USB keyboard. I could return the MB, but I am unable to find another economical MB that can utilize the components. Netvista case can only take a Flex ATX MB or mATX MBs that are smaller than the standard size (it can take an MB 9.6"x 8 1/4").
Hope to find another MB somewhere cheap giving the same options, ie., LAN, Video (and hopefully) Audio. Any ideas?
What a waste of time and money.
Regards
Hope to find another MB somewhere cheap giving the same options, ie., LAN, Video (and hopefully) Audio. Any ideas?
What a waste of time and money.
Regards
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It is rather disappointing that Pacakage2You took ALL this time only to post same thing over again. I still don't think it's even possible to attach the particular recever/cable I received to the motherboard IR header regardless of how it's rotated on the pins. I tried to, by connecting the 5V, Gnd, IR RX to PS/2 Data line, but no luck. Then again there are still too many variables like BIOS config, those other Data pins, etc. When the OS "finds" IR device, I don't think it's because there is something hooked to the IR header, it's simply because the feature is enabled in the BIOS.
I don't know what my next step will be, there are still 4 unidentified data pins/functions on the receiver, but my best guess is that those are INPUTS for additional, traditional keyboard and moouse connection through the receiver as vaguely mentioned on the manufacturer's product page.
Another option is using only the mouse function on the keyboard, hooked to serial port (probably straight pin-conversion like those PS/2-Serial Mouse adapters, but that's a poor alternative IMHO, and only addresses the mouse).
Here is the pinout on a common PS/2 to Serial Mouse adapter:
ps/2 -> Serial Adapter
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data - serial rx
gnd - serial gnd
+5V - DTR
clock - RTS
Using this as example, and considering that the keyboard manufacturer DOES make mention of a serial adapter, I image this could be used on serial port (header on motherboard), but "probably" only the mouse. I don't know what the pinout for the serial port header is, I didn't see it listed in the manual but I would imagine that most contemporary ECS/PCChips/etc serial headers share the same pinout.
For some of you, having the mouse work might be enough. I will be looking for something like this USB to PS/2 Adapter, and if i can't find one cheap enough, I'll probably end up using a Mobility Easidock, which I was lucky enough to find posted here at ATF for FAR at Circuit City about this time last year.
I don't know what my next step will be, there are still 4 unidentified data pins/functions on the receiver, but my best guess is that those are INPUTS for additional, traditional keyboard and moouse connection through the receiver as vaguely mentioned on the manufacturer's product page.
Another option is using only the mouse function on the keyboard, hooked to serial port (probably straight pin-conversion like those PS/2-Serial Mouse adapters, but that's a poor alternative IMHO, and only addresses the mouse).
Here is the pinout on a common PS/2 to Serial Mouse adapter:
ps/2 -> Serial Adapter
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data - serial rx
gnd - serial gnd
+5V - DTR
clock - RTS
Using this as example, and considering that the keyboard manufacturer DOES make mention of a serial adapter, I image this could be used on serial port (header on motherboard), but "probably" only the mouse. I don't know what the pinout for the serial port header is, I didn't see it listed in the manual but I would imagine that most contemporary ECS/PCChips/etc serial headers share the same pinout.
For some of you, having the mouse work might be enough. I will be looking for something like this USB to PS/2 Adapter, and if i can't find one cheap enough, I'll probably end up using a Mobility Easidock, which I was lucky enough to find posted here at ATF for FAR at Circuit City about this time last year.
I think I may max out with 1gb of RAM and just turn mine into a linux server. It will give me a reason to learn linux. Until I do though I am still going to try to get this IR keyboard to work
mindless1 - thank you for all your work and sharing it with all of us.
I am waiting for my MB and parts to be delivered, but I've been following your investigation.
Seems like you've proven that the IR receiver supplied by P2You emulates a PS/2 keyboard and mouse. Usually there are separate connections for keyboards and mouse (although some notebooks have a dual mouse and/or keyboards jack). If the separate PS/2 data & clock lines for keyboard and mouse coming from the IR receiver were wired to the standard PS/2 connections on the MB, I don't think there would need to be any additional IR keyboard/mouse drivers. Seems like the IR receiver and keyboard should be seen as a standard keyboard and mouse to the MB. If the IR receiver is hooked up to the MB using the SIR/IRDA connector, I don't think it would work unless the IR recever works in two modes (PS/2 emulation or some other IRDA mode). Sorry for the ramble, but if we could use an USB to PS/2 adaptor (or get PS/2 jacks successfully soldered and enabled on the MB) we could all be in business.
I am waiting for my MB and parts to be delivered, but I've been following your investigation.
Seems like you've proven that the IR receiver supplied by P2You emulates a PS/2 keyboard and mouse. Usually there are separate connections for keyboards and mouse (although some notebooks have a dual mouse and/or keyboards jack). If the separate PS/2 data & clock lines for keyboard and mouse coming from the IR receiver were wired to the standard PS/2 connections on the MB, I don't think there would need to be any additional IR keyboard/mouse drivers. Seems like the IR receiver and keyboard should be seen as a standard keyboard and mouse to the MB. If the IR receiver is hooked up to the MB using the SIR/IRDA connector, I don't think it would work unless the IR recever works in two modes (PS/2 emulation or some other IRDA mode). Sorry for the ramble, but if we could use an USB to PS/2 adaptor (or get PS/2 jacks successfully soldered and enabled on the MB) we could all be in business.
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