Sexual harassment that isn't?

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Dr. Zaus

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Hi,

I was talking to some co-workers, fellow researchers in the field of organizational science, and we started talking about sexual harassment. There were numerous stories of women that had said something was sexual harassment, but which other women said wasn't even close (using a double entendre with in a joke with a coworker just one time). Mostly there were guys saying that things were 'clearly' sexual harassment, but which none of the women thought was harassing (ie, a shoulder message given to a non-objecting female coworker)

So, what are some of your own examples of stuff that some may think seem like sexual harassment but isn't really; and why, in particular, isn't it actually harassment?
 
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RampantAndroid

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...wait, why would a guy think a massage is harassment? It becomes harassment if she doesn't want it, right? If you know them well enough and they are OK with it...
 

ivwshane

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It's too serious of a charge to even take a chance with. Hell! Even joking around at the work place is a no no now a days.
 

dank69

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If you take a sensitivity training class you will learn that the main definition of workplace harassment includes the word "unwanted."
 

EagleKeeper

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Problem is that even if it is not done/directed to you; the fact that something is being done that offends you can be classified as harassment.
 

Jaskalas

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Can't they silently object for fear of workplace retaliation? Ergo... the person doing the harassment may have no clue.
 

Moonbeam

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We find people at all different levels of spiritual development, folk who have made all different levels of progress against self hate, folk with various level of unconscious need or conscious but inappropriate need, folk who use sex to ameliorate emotional pain, people who are comforted by feeling sexually attractive and seek verification of that. We radiate all these emotional needs as vibes, we give off unconscious signals and respond to them either consciously as predators or unconsciously as co-conspirators. We play games and are victims of unconscious forces we man not understand. The only way not to be is through self understanding an and intention, it seems to me. I see no sin in being sexually attracted to somebody you hope to establish a relationship with and perhaps a permanent one, but I see a problem with wanting self affirmation via turning somebody else on simply for the self satisfaction that you can. Similarly, I see no problem with being sexually attractive, it usually means good body symmetry and facially average, but to seek to turn on others with the sole intention to make yourself feel beautiful strikes me as profoundly venal.

So what is or isn't sexual harassment, it would strike me, is known to the person who loves him or herself, who is spiritually advanced and in control of and aware of unconscious needs, who doesn't have them because of spiritual awareness and healthy psychological intent.
 

sm625

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Sexual harassment is usually some form of behavior that is condoned when one person does it, but not another. ie if the girl likes you it is fine, if she doesnt it is harassment. Its just a bunch of bullcrap that the globalists have siezed on in order to help deindustrialize the country.
 

Sheep221

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Sexual harassment doesn't have direct definition, so as long as you are not sure or don't know well the person you want to touch, I would just skip because you never know what might happen.

What I consider sexual harassment is requiring sex as a compensation to not tell somethings about you that might compromise you in job, or to be kept in job or getting something you need to fulfill some task. I don't think that just touching your sexy co-worker on the back as you are passing by is sex harassment, although some women may consider it like that too.
 

smackababy

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Sexual harassment has to be either explicitly stated to be unwanted or extreme enough to warrant a prudent person to object. The thing is, generally sexual harassment comes from a person repeatedly doing an action after being told the action is unwanted.

The problems I have with stuff like this, is that it stems from women wanted to be treated fairly, not equally. Degrading comments are part of male culture and especially rivalry. In business, even your coworkers are your "enemies" and fair treatment is unheard of. Equal treatment implies you are getting stabbed in the back regardless of your gender, sexual orientation, age, whatever.
 

TheSiege

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I once said, "its when a penis goes into a vagina" I got called in for sexual harassment because someone was offended.
 

TeeJay1952

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It has always been my policy that you are allowed to knock on the door but you must be willing to accept no thank you as the answer.
 
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