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[Zolty]

In Baseball if a fly ball is hit into the outfield, hits a the wall then is caught by the outfielder is it an out?

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

yes...duh

bouncing off anything in play keeps it live, including those very tall foul posts and any part of the wall

 

[MichaelD]

It is most definitely an out. If after leaving the bat, the ball is caught before touching the ground, it's an out. Doesn't matter if the ball bounces off the wall or someone's head. It's an OUT.

 

[rsd]

uhh no

Edit: If I'm wrong anyone have a link to the rule? Just curious

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: rsd
uhh no

quoted before the edit 🙂

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: rsd
uhh no

quoted before the edit 🙂

It doesn't make sense to me. So if someone hits one off the Green Monster and the OF catches it--that is an out? boggle..they always play the hop off the wall and let it drop (obviously that is the "safer" play) but still...

Actually I know for a fact I have seen plays where they catch it off the wall and it is definitely not an out.

 

[BigJ]

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/official_info/umpires/ground_rules.jsp

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It is most definitely an out. If after leaving the bat, the ball is caught before touching the ground, it's an out. Doesn't matter if the ball bounces off the wall or someone's head. It's an OUT.

You're an idiot. It's most definitely NOT an out. Hitting a players head and hitting the wall are completely different things.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
yes...duh

bouncing off anything in play keeps it live, including those very tall foul posts and any part of the wall

Well you are definitely wrong on at least one thing, because if it HITS the foul (really fair) poles it is a home run

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It is most definitely an out. If after leaving the bat, the ball is caught before touching the ground, it's an out. Doesn't matter if the ball bounces off the wall or someone's head. It's an OUT.

You're an idiot. It's most definitely NOT an out. Hitting a players head and hitting the wall are completely different things.

But for certain stadiums, if it bounces off of certain parts of the stadium and is caught before hitting the ground, it is an out.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Uhhhhh... it's not an out. 😕

 

[Ika]

I figured it wasn't an out, but the first two posts made me reconsider.

If a ball bounces off the top of the wall and comes back into the field, somehow, is it ruled a ground rule double, a home run, or live?

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
yes...duh

bouncing off anything in play keeps it live, including those very tall foul posts and any part of the wall

my turn to quote before edit 😉

 

[UncleWai]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It is most definitely an out. If after leaving the bat, the ball is caught before touching the ground, it's an out. Doesn't matter if the ball bounces off the wall or someone's head. It's an OUT.

You're an idiot. It's most definitely NOT an out. Hitting a players head and hitting the wall are completely different things.

But for certain stadiums, if it bounces off of certain parts of the stadium and is caught before hitting the ground, it is an out.

Only the ceiling of a dome or the skylights. Once the ball hits any wall, it's a hit.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Aflac
I figured it wasn't an out, but the first two posts made me reconsider.

If a ball bounces off the top of the wall and comes back into the field, somehow, is it ruled a ground rule double, a home run, or live?

Does it hit on, above, or below the yellow line?

 

[five40]

It's not an out

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Aflac
I figured it wasn't an out, but the first two posts made me reconsider.

If a ball bounces off the top of the wall and comes back into the field, somehow, is it ruled a ground rule double, a home run, or live?

Does it hit on, above, or below the yellow line?

oh that's true, I forgot about the yellow line.

How about all three? I was thinking the VERY TOP of the wall (flat part) and by some strange stroke of strangeness came back onto the field.

If it hits on or above the yellow line, it's called a home run? iirc.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It is most definitely an out. If after leaving the bat, the ball is caught before touching the ground, it's an out. Doesn't matter if the ball bounces off the wall or someone's head. It's an OUT.

You're an idiot. It's most definitely NOT an out. Hitting a players head and hitting the wall are completely different things.

But for certain stadiums, if it bounces off of certain parts of the stadium and is caught before hitting the ground, it is an out.

For certain stadiums that have things dangling over fair territory that's true. But the discussion here is not hitting a catwalk or a speaker, it's about hitting the wall. For purposes of determining whether the ball is live or dead the wall surrounding the field is ALWAYS considered to be the same thing as the ground. That's never superceded by a local ground rule. If a ball bounces off the wall it's the same as bouncing on the grass or the dirt. Period.

 

[rsd]

Lesson learned:

1) First two replies to this thread are COMPLETELY wrong.

2) Don't go to ATOT to get baseball ruling knowledge

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Aflac
I figured it wasn't an out, but the first two posts made me reconsider.

If a ball bounces off the top of the wall and comes back into the field, somehow, is it ruled a ground rule double, a home run, or live?

Does it hit on, above, or below the yellow line?

oh that's true, I forgot about the yellow line.

How about all three? I was thinking the VERY TOP of the wall (flat part) and by some strange stroke of strangeness came back onto the field.

If it hits on or above the yellow line, it's called a home run? iirc.

correct

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It is most definitely an out. If after leaving the bat, the ball is caught before touching the ground, it's an out. Doesn't matter if the ball bounces off the wall or someone's head. It's an OUT.

You're an idiot. It's most definitely NOT an out. Hitting a players head and hitting the wall are completely different things.

But for certain stadiums, if it bounces off of certain parts of the stadium and is caught before hitting the ground, it is an out.

For certain stadiums that have things dangling over fair territory that's true. But the discussion here is not hitting a catwalk or a speaker, it's about hitting the wall. For purposes of determining whether the ball is live or dead the wall surrounding the field is ALWAYS considered to be the same thing as the ground. That's never superceded by a local ground rule. If a ball bounces off the wall it's the same as bouncing on the grass or the dirt. Period.

I know 🙂

 

[QED]

No, hitting the ball off of the wall is not an out in baseball.

Having the ball hit off of an outfielder's head and over the wall, though, is a home run.

 

[UncleWai]

Just think about the Green Monster. Hitters would be hella pissed if all the hits that bounced off the wall got called out.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Aflac
I figured it wasn't an out, but the first two posts made me reconsider.

That's standard operating procedure on ATOT. The two dumbest people with the least accurate opinions are always the quickest to spew forth wrong answers.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Aflac
I figured it wasn't an out, but the first two posts made me reconsider.

That's standard operating procedure on ATOT. The two dumbest people with the least accurate opinions are always the quickest to spew forth wrong answers.

^The Truth(tm)