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Maxima1

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You seem under the impression that you're competent enough at statistics to have any meaningful opinion on this.

You obviously aren't. Your response was idiotic. You act as if since there was data and since he used it, somehow that means by default that his model must have been as optimal as could be. Yet Nate throws in **** that he has no proof even furthers predictive power.
 

agent00f

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You obviously aren't. Your response was idiotic. You act as if since there was data and since he used it, somehow that means by default that his model must have been as optimal as could be. Yet Nate throws in **** that he has no proof even furthers predictive power.

No, it's pretty obvious that you're:

1. assuming a stat model is "wrong" because it attributed greater likelihood to a result that didn't happen
2. conflating input/output with whatever "optimality" of the model itself
3. making all sorts of proclamations about modeling based on zero mathematics or science

Unfortunately you'll never understand basic stats or much else well enough to grasp why these are significant.
 

Phokus

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Conservatives are stupid as all hell, if there's anyone the Clintons would have murdered it would have been Anthony Weiner, considering all the problems he's caused the Clintons.
 

Maxima1

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No, it's pretty obvious that you're:

1. assuming a stat model is "wrong" because it attributed greater likelihood to a result that didn't happen

What exactly is this referencing?

2. conflating input/output with whatever "optimality" of the model itself

"Model results are based on available data; you're stupidly conflating that with the model."

So tell me how you know his model has strong predictive power. It isn't even transparent. We just see the garbage it throws out.

3. making all sorts of proclamations about modeling based on zero mathematics or science

Unfortunately you'll never understand basic stats or much else well enough to grasp why these are significant.

LOL Not this crap again, You haven't backed up your BS with one iota of stats.
 

agent00f

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What exactly is this referencing?

Your insistence that a stat model is wrong because didn't predict the right eventuality.

"Model results are based on available data; you're stupidly conflating that with the model."

So tell me how you know his model has strong predictive power. It isn't even transparent. We just see the garbage it throws out.

His model seems largely sound based on best practices. Of course you have no way of knowing this.

LOL Not this crap again, You haven't backed up your BS with one iota of stats.

It's a foregone conclusion the compatibility of your mind with statistical math.
 

Maxima1

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fskimospy

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[QUOTE="Maxima1, post: 38908298, member: 321295]

Yeah, how many eyerolls did you have over polls-plus, fanboy? lol

You're the one who acts as if there's something special about one of them and vehemently defends the 538 model despite him getting several things completely wrong.[/QUOTE]

You're projecting. I am perfectly fine with accepting the results of whatever model was best. In this case it was 538. Wang's model was probably the worst performing of the major quantitative models. This is just a fact.

I always find it interesting when liberal people on here who regularly (and correctly) attack conservatives for ignoring objective reality do the same thing when the facts go the other way. Wang had a bad model. Silver had a better model. If that changes next election that's fine by me. I don't understand why it's not fine by you.
 

Maxima1

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Did you seriously just link an editorial that claimed his model overestimated the odds of a Trump victory?

Lol

It did. It was the one model that was giving Trump high odds, yet Trump only won because of the BS October surprise at the end. It funny how you think the model is so much better, yet that would have all changed if only Weiner wasn't a creep.
 

agent00f

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BS Here, I'll just let an actual stat professor take it from here. lmao

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ll-over-the-place_us_582238dce4b0d9ce6fbf69b6

Appears basic logic isn't your thing either. The prof here is criticizing Nate here largely for elements that made his results more favorable to trump. Since you're much too dumb to grasp what that implies, "correcting" them would only make the "model" worse by your own dumbshit standards. I'd ask you to ponder this for a while, but we both know that's an exercise in futility.
 

agent00f

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It did. It was the one model that was giving Trump high odds, yet Trump only won because of the BS October surprise at the end. It funny how you think the model is so much better, yet that would have all changed if only Weiner wasn't a creep.

Just a heads up we already know just how dumb you are even without criticizing 538 or who knows what for an inability to predict unforeseeable future events.
 

Maxima1

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We already know just how dumb you are without criticizing 538 or who know what for their inability to predict unforeseeable future events.

Man, you are stupid. Nate didn't predict it either, so shut up. It had squat to do with his model.

Since you're much too dumb to grasp what that implies, "correcting" them would only make the "model" worse by your own dumbshit standards

Good grief. Discussions with you are always a joke.
 

agent00f

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Man, you are stupid. Nate didn't predict it either, so shut up. It had squat to do with his model.

Good grief. Discussions with you are always a joke.

I'm curious if you can point to any semi-intelligent post you've ever understood.