[ServeTheHome] Xeon-D1518 (Wave 2) Benchmarks

[Justinbaileyman]

Where did you get that price from. Prices would normally be for board and processor together. I thought the D-1587 alone was going to cost a fair bit more than $1k.

Would you give a link to this youtube vid with D-1500 board? Thanks.

I meant buying one for 1K for the motherboard and cpu and not for the cpu alone. I didnt even know you could get the cpu alone? I though these were soldered packages?The price one supermicro's site for the D-1587 motherboard/cpu combo board is going to be around $1200.00 so I was saying I hope they drop in price a tad bit by june so I can sang one up a wee bit cheaper. as for the link for the review guy on youtube it was posted above by another user before I could post it. The video he has linked is not the only video that guy has.He has several videos showing several of these boards doing various benches and tests.

 

[Dufus]

Yes they are BGA and usually come together as a board and CPU deal.

Here's a price for Supermicro board with D-1587, about $2,300.

 

[Essence_of_War]

Do we know the number of PCI Express lanes on the 16C/32T version?

The 8C/16T version has 24 PCI Express lanes.

A few of the 16 core models just got added to the ARK

http://ark.intel.com/products/family/87041/Intel-Xeon-Processor-D-Family#@All

They are listed as having 32 pcie lanes.

Understandable. If Intel muddies the waters anymore with oddly name sub-product-lines, I'm going to need to start keeping my own spreadsheet.

Isn't there a Pentium-D-no-not-that-pre-core-pentium-D-D-as-in-Xeon-D supposed to be running around soon?

 

[Justinbaileyman]

A few of the 16 core models just got added to the ARK

http://ark.intel.com/products/family/87041/Intel-Xeon-Processor-D-Family#@All

They are listed as having 32 pcie lanes.



Isn't there a Pentium-D-no-not-that-pre-core-pentium-D-D-as-in-Xeon-D supposed to be running around soon?

Yep thats what I am trying to get my hands on is a 16 core 32 thread Xeon D-1587 with 32 Pcie lanes cpu/motherboard combo for around $1200 or under if possible. The MSR on the SuperMicro website is showing $1200 as a release price so like I said before I am hoping they drop to $1000 by june rather then jump up in price. If I can catch one under $1200 I am all over it asap..!! Wonder what the total tdp would be when these babies get hammered with full load if thats even possible?? Also do these take standard desktop DDR 4 memory or do I have to get server grade DDR4 ECC Moduals?

 

[Essence_of_War]

Wonder what the total tdp would be when these babies get hammered with full load if thats even possible?? Also do these take standard desktop DDR 4 memory or do I have to get server grade DDR4 ECC Moduals?

Intel quotes the TDP for the 16 cores at only 45W.

According to Intel's documentation, there should be variants that accept both DDR3 and DDR4, and SODIMMs, UDIMMs and RDIMMs. So it looks like the answer is "no, you probably don't need ECC, and in fact, you may not even need DDR4".

 

[Dufus]

Intel quotes the TDP for the 16 cores at only 45W.

While the higher clocked 16 core D-1581 and D-1587 are specified for a TDP of 65W.

 

[zir_blazer]

According to Intel's documentation, there should be variants that accept both DDR3 and DDR4, and SODIMMs, UDIMMs and RDIMMs. So it looks like the answer is "no, you probably don't need ECC, and in fact, you may not even need DDR4".

Who would someone spend soo much money on a high end Xeon D and not use the proper RAM modules? ECC is a must, and while I would use UDIMM if nothing else is available, I still prefer RDIMM. Price wise it should go unnoticed compared to what you're already spending on the Processor + Motherboard.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Who would someone spend soo much money on a high end Xeon D and not use the proper RAM modules?

Because they're doing something performance critical and needs lots of cores, but a 0.001% chance of data loss instead of a 0.00001% chance isn't particularly bothersome?

 

[zir_blazer]

Because they're doing something performance critical and needs lots of cores, but a 0.001% chance of data loss instead of a 0.00001% chance isn't particularly bothersome?

That sounds like an argument made by someone that goes cheap on Power Supply and would pick a nameless generic one based on price only because "both work".
Real Server gear uses ECC, period. Someone spending 1000 U$Ds on this platform will not cheap out on RAM. Besides, since it seems that most Motherboards have just 4 slots, if you want more than 64 GB, you have to use RDIMM, which will probabily come with ECC anyways.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

That sounds like an argument made by someone that goes cheap on Power Supply and would pick a nameless generic one based on price only because "both work".
Real Server gear uses ECC, period. Someone spending 1000 U$Ds on this platform will not cheap out on RAM.

Then you suck at math.

The likelihood of a cheap PSU failing in a reasonable (<5 year) timeframe is quite high. (Like, single-digit percentage points.) The likelihood of non-ECC RAM causing a noticeable (and unrecoverable) problem with a workstation workload (say, video editing) is much, much lower. Assume that everything will break at the worst possible time, take sensible precautions, and play the odds.

Also, I wasn't talking about "Real Server" setups, just other workloads that benefit from a lot of cores. You might notice that my "server" does have ECC, but it's also got the weakest CPU in the house. It's workload-appropriate.

Finally, you know darn well what people (and OEMs) will cheap out on. Everything. Somebody paying $1,000 for a platform will absolutely spend $150 instead of $350 on 32GB of RAM if it means they get to drop in a shiny new PCI-E SSD or something with the difference.