server test?

[foshizzle]

I think that my ISP might be blocking all connections that are initiated from the outside. But I can't think of a way to actually test it. Is there any way that I can setup up a server(ftp or http or other), and test it to see if it can be accessed from a location outside of my ISP's network. I called my ISP earlier and left a message a few times, and haven't gotten a call back, and now that's it's past 5:00PM, I don't think I'm getting a call back today. So is there any website with a java applet that could test something like this?

 

[groovin]

netcraft.com???

 

[foshizzle]

ok, I setup a web server, and tried a few different sites that try and tell you what server you're running, and they all basically said "I don't exist". So I'm guessing that my ISP is blocking all connections that were not initiated by me. Do you guys think this is the case? I'm no expert on ISP ethics or anything, but I'm pretty sure that what mine is doing is extremely focked up. Especially considering the fact that I'm paying about 30 bucks a month extra because it's a business account.

On a side note, isn't the reason a business account costs more that it's supposed to have more speed/features, because we pay more for the same speed as residential, the exact same priority when it comes to tech support, and now I can't even setup a server if I wanted a website for the business(they don't even offer web space for their customers) nor ping anything(in or out). And I can't switch companies either, becuase they're the only one(even if I wanted to go back to dial-up). Has anyone else had any problems like this with they're ISP? What did/would you do? I'm gonna call them tomorrow, and cuss them out, and get some money creditted back.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Try setting the server port to a high port (>1023, probably want 10000 or something silly like that). Then have someone try to connect to it.

 

[Carp1812]

Not to be rude, but what type of a network are you running? Do you have a router? Are you forwarding ports to your server? A little more background might help a bit.

 

[Nothinman]

I'm no expert on ISP ethics or anything, but I'm pretty sure that what mine is doing is extremely focked up

If they are doing that, it's probably a reaction to the Blaster virus. Technically there's no reason why you should be accepting incoming connections anyway, most non-braindead protocols work fine like that for people just using client software.

Especially considering the fact that I'm paying about 30 bucks a month extra because it's a business account.

If your agreement says you can run a server call and bitch, not much we can do about it.

On a side note, isn't the reason a business account costs more that it's supposed to have more speed/features,

Depends. The ISP could technically sell you the exact same service for a higher price with just a Business lable, if you're stupid enough to not read what they're selling you.

I'm gonna call them tomorrow, and cuss them out, and get some money creditted back.

Find out if it's intential or not first, if you start out swearing your chances of getting real help are pretty slim.

 

[foshizzle]

The setup I've got is modem->router->PC's, with the proper ports forwarded. But even if I take the router out of the equation, I get the same results. I've tried many many ports, below and above 1024. Same results.

I'm no expert on ISP ethics or anything, but I'm pretty sure that what mine is doing is extremely focked up

If they are doing that, it's probably a reaction to the Blaster virus. Technically there's no reason why you should be accepting incoming connections anyway, most non-braindead protocols work fine like that for people just using client software.

If I wanted to run a small website(very small), I would need to accept incoming connections. And I've asked them if we're allowed to run servers, and they said they don't care, and there's nothing in the contract that forbids them. Also, before I signed up, I knew that the residential was the same as business, but they don't let businesses get the residential service. The main reason I'm so upset, is that they turn this stuff off without even mentioning anything to their customers through the website. And yeah, I'm prolly not gonna be a dick to them, unless they start being dicks when I call them.

 

[groovin]

and youre sure that your web server is properly config'd? can you plug it into an internal network to test it?

 

[foshizzle]

yeah, the web server is configured, I can access it from another computer on my network. I can even access it if I type in the WAN IP, so that means that the router is configged right too. (It goes from the computer through the router, and then to the web server. I've even tried an ftp server. I am 99% sure that they blocking the ability to put up a server. I've already called them a few times, I just have to wait for the guy in charge of DSL to call me back, which is taking forever.

Has anyone else heard of an ISP completely blocking the ability to put up any server of any kind? I couldn't even do any type of remote access stuff if I wanted to.

 

[rmrf]

Originally posted by: foshizzle
yeah, the web server is configured, I can access it from another computer on my network. I can even access it if I type in the WAN IP, so that means that the router is configged right too. (It goes from the computer through the router, and then to the web server. I've even tried an ftp server. I am 99% sure that they blocking the ability to put up a server. I've already called them a few times, I just have to wait for the guy in charge of DSL to call me back, which is taking forever.

Has anyone else heard of an ISP completely blocking the ability to put up any server of any kind? I couldn't even do any type of remote access stuff if I wanted to.

You can access the web server via IP and not fqd? if that is the case, when did you set your dns up, who did you register your name through, and when did you register your name?

 

[foshizzle]

^I don't have or need to have any type of DNS running in order to test if someone can access a web server. I can just use the IP address. And that only works if the remote computer is on the local network.(The connection never actually goes through my ISP, only through my router.

I just got a phone call back from my ISP, and they said that they just put a firewall up and he said that he's gonna have someone else call me. So now everyone using them is behind a massive firewall. I'm guessing they did this because of all these worms running around.
Shouldn't they just be using that firewall to block the ports that the worms are using, and not just completely block everything off? I'm mainly asking because I do want to learn about networking security and stuff.

There's not much I can do now except maybe see if there's some way for them to let the people who ask bypass the firewall, which might not be likely.

 

[StrongShock]

sounds like you need to call your isp & tell them you're running an internet multiplayer game that needs port 80.
;-)

i hear you with wanting to a crash course in net security by setting up a server. be careful & use both hardware & software firewalls though; i got hacked in a few hours after going online with my dns. (go ahead linux users, laugh, haha). 🙂

 

[foshizzle]

well, it's not necessarily that I want a web server. Whenever I go somewhere, I usually setup an ftp server on my comp so I can access my files when I'm away, and I like to have a VNC server running, so I case I really need access to something on my computer I can do it. But now, I can't do any of those things, unless I call back to my comp, long distance thru a modem.