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Server 2008 R2!

I must have missed it back then. anyway, I installed with no problems on a regular desktop pc and now i am testing out a virtual machine with Hyper V!
 
I'm about ready to upgrade my Server 2008 Hyper-V server to R2. Boy, it's getting REALLY difficult to keep up with this stuff. Microsoft wants to provide major upgrades every two years, but that definitely has its pros and cons.
 
Originally posted by: RebateMonger
I'm about ready to upgrade my Server 2008 Hyper-V server to R2. Boy, it's getting REALLY difficult to keep up with this stuff. Microsoft wants to provide major upgrades every two years, but that definitely has its pros and cons.
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Tip: Export ALL of your virtual machines before upgrading. If your config is lost, you'll lose all of your snapshots. I upgraded one of our servers at work and it was not fun.
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: RebateMonger
I'm about ready to upgrade my Server 2008 Hyper-V server to R2. Boy, it's getting REALLY difficult to keep up with this stuff. Microsoft wants to provide major upgrades every two years, but that definitely has its pros and cons.
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Tip: Export ALL of your virtual machines before upgrading. If your config is lost, you'll lose all of your snapshots. I upgraded one of our servers at work and it was not fun.
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Thanks for the tip. Actually, I was already in the process of doing exports. I've been dumping a bunch of Virtual Machines that I don't really use or the trials have expired. I do appreciate the concern, though.
 
Quick question if I download R2 for microsoft can I use my MS Server 2008 Standard license after I install the R2 version or does that require a whole new license?
 
Originally posted by: hennessy1
Quick question if I download R2 for microsoft can I use my MS Server 2008 Standard license after I install the R2 version or does that require a whole new license?
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R2 is considered a major upgrade, like Windows 7, with which it shares the same kernel. You'd need a R2 Key to Activate it permanently.
 
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: amddude
Wait until you try to do anything remotely 3d with hyper-v installed (and wddm drivers).
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Is this something good or bad lol ?
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People trying to use Windows Server 2008 as a combination 3D computer/Hyper-V server have found that the presence of the Hyper-V role greatly slows down 3D performance of the host computer. Microsoft emphasizes that applications shouldn't be run on the Hyper-V host, so Microsoft doesn't seem in a hurry to "fix" this.
 
Hyper-v doesnt even come close to competing with ESX/ESXi. ESX is so much faster on identical hardware. Also, when is MS going to allow you to over commit resources? From what I hear that MAY be in the version AFTER the next version. They also do not have storage VMotion or an easy way to configure clusters of machines.
 
You can create failover clusters fairly easily in Hyper-V R2, and it's free. You have to pay extra for that with ESX/ESXi. Storage VMotion would be nice, but again, that's something you have to pay extra for with ESX.

Overcommit would be nice though.
 
Originally posted by: RebateMonger
Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: amddude
Wait until you try to do anything remotely 3d with hyper-v installed (and wddm drivers).
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Is this something good or bad lol ?
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People trying to use Windows Server 2008 as a combination 3D computer/Hyper-V server have found that the presence of the Hyper-V role greatly slows down 3D performance of the host computer. Microsoft emphasizes that applications shouldn't be run on the Hyper-V host, so Microsoft doesn't seem in a hurry to "fix" this.
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Thank you RebateMonger greatly appreciated! Your always very helpful!

 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: RebateMonger
I'm about ready to upgrade my Server 2008 Hyper-V server to R2. Boy, it's getting REALLY difficult to keep up with this stuff. Microsoft wants to provide major upgrades every two years, but that definitely has its pros and cons.
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Tip: Export ALL of your virtual machines before upgrading. If your config is lost, you'll lose all of your snapshots. I upgraded one of our servers at work and it was not fun.
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I think they recommended to commit your snapshots and shutdown your VMs before upgrading.
 
Originally posted by: yinan
Bah hyper-v. Just use ESXi its free and better 😉
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If your price point is free, Hyper-V is a much better choice. ESXi has very specific hardware requirements and just isn't very friendly unless you have a fully supported system. Hyper-V uses Windows drives and will run on anything Windows does, provided you have the right CPU type.

Hyper-V R2 will do the equivalent of vMotion for free whereas ESXi requires many thousands of dollars in licensing.

The only thing ESXi does better now is Linux support, but that will change in 2.6.32 when Hyper-V drivers are in kernel.
 
Originally posted by: yinan
Hyper-v doesnt even come close to competing with ESX/ESXi. ESX is so much faster on identical hardware. Also, when is MS going to allow you to over commit resources? From what I hear that MAY be in the version AFTER the next version. They also do not have storage VMotion or an easy way to configure clusters of machines.
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Unless you have huge amounts of money for a huge SAN to use all of those nifty features, Hyper-V is a good choice at a lower price point.

RAM overcommit is nice, but buying RAM is a lot cheaper than buying ESX licenses. I've run Hyper-V and ESX on identical boxes (switched after ESX decided to hate our "supported" RAID controller after an upgrade) and I haven't noticed a speed difference on the VMs.
 
Originally posted by: SammyJr
If your price point is free, Hyper-V is a much better choice. ESXi has very specific hardware requirements and just isn't very friendly unless you have a fully supported system. Hyper-V uses Windows drives and will run on anything Windows does, provided you have the right CPU type.
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That's a problem that I'm faced with. ESXi has REDUCED the hardware that is "approved". While ESXi can be made to run on lots of low-end hardware, it's NOT supported. Which means I can't use it because there's no way I'm going to charge a client to build a server on "unsupported" hardware. If something doesn't work right, I'm now responsible for the "mistake".

There's no perfect virtualization platform. They all have their pros and cons. Which is "better" depends on your requirements and on individual features that are important to you.
 
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