Serious Sam 2 on ATi GPU

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josh6079

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
What I find two faced is that the same people who defend tRollo are the ones attacking Ackmed and the two are not even comparable... tRollo never gave unbiased advice and Ackmed does. Ackmed isn't scared to recomend nVidia if the price is right and has done so in the past.
You MUST be joking. Akmed is the biggest ATI fanboy on this site. Heck he is the biggest fanboy on multiple sites. Even people who I consider big ATI fans have taken a step back from him. You really should go and read his posts.....
You're his equal as far as posting nothing but pro-Nvidia everywhere. I will give Ackmed credit that he has at least recognized Nvidia's hardware when it is due and suggested some of their platforms and cards over some ATI ones in the past. Also, it is nice to have members who invest in the top of the line SLI and CF systems when they are out since they generally provide gaming results on those said platforms. Ackmed has shown screenshots with framerates with both CF enabled and disabled so as to get an idea as to the performance increase in certain titles. Even though he does come off biased with most of his posts, being biased isn't against the rules here and as long as he provides claims with facts when asked, his favoritism for ATI really isn't that big of a deal. The only time it is annoying is when it is blatantly off topic or extremely glorifying.

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Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

What I find two faced is that the same people who defend tRollo are the ones attacking Ackmed and the two are not even comparable... tRollo never gave unbiased advice and Ackmed does. Ackmed isn't scared to recomend nVidia if the price is right and has done so in the past.

You MUST be joking. Akmed is the biggest ATI fanboy on this site. Heck he is the biggest fanboy on multiple sites. Even people who I consider big ATI fans have taken a step back from him. You really should go and read his posts.....

Please, do show an example of me being a fanboy. Do I think ATi does somethings better? Yes. Do I say as such? Yes. Do I think NV is better at things? Yes. Do I post as such? Yes.

In fact, on another forum today, I defended the GX2 to someone who posted ignorance about it.

His post-
Nobody said the GX2 was some really awesome new card, we hoped it would be, but really weren't disappointed that it wasn't.
My post-
Sure they did, lots of people. And the GX2 for the money, is a great card performance wise. I, and many others are not disappointed.

It is pretty funny you calling me a fanboy. Unlike you, I buy top end cards, from both brands. Do you? Nope. I have first hand expierence. Do you? Nope.

Originally posted by: josh6079

You're his equal as far as posting nothing but pro-Nvidia everywhere. I will give Ackmed credit that he has at least recognized Nvidia's hardware when it is due and suggested some of their platforms and cards over some ATI ones in the past. Also, it is nice to have members who invest in the top of the line SLI and CF systems when they are out since they generally provide gaming results on those said platforms. Ackmed has shown screenshots with framerates with both CF enabled and disabled so as to get an idea as to the performance increase in certain titles. Even though he does come off biased with most of his posts, being biased isn't against the rules here and as long as he provides claims with facts when asked, his favoritism for ATI really isn't that big of a deal. The only time it is annoying is when it is blatantly off topic or extremely glorifying.

I am biased. I have said many times that I am. Just because I prefer ATi, doesnt mean I wouldnt use NV, or recommend it. My last setup was an A8N32-SLI, and 2x7800GTX's. Thats NVx3 if anyone is counting. Why did I have that setup? Because ATi was late to the market, and I need more frames in BF2 than my X850XT/PE could give me. I am biased towards AMD as well (I generally like the underdog). However, if I was to build a new system right now, it wouldnt be an AMD, even though Im very happy with my Opty. I buy whatever is the best, at the time. I have used many more brands that wreckage could dream of for my systems. For every single part of PC's. Id be happy to compare track records of system parts, to see who is a fanboy, and who isnt.

And as you said, I stick to facts to the best my knowledge. I admit when wrong, just like in the shimmering topic last week, or whenever it was.

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Hardly. What you and your pals do, is troll behind me. Then claim I take money for posting. Pretty silly, and sad. But then again, you dont think ATi has any IQ advantage, and think ATi cheats in their drivers. I guess that speaks for itself. /done with you

Whether you get paid or not does not detract from the fact that you sound like a salesman.

Your paranoia about being followed sounds like a deeply personal issue.

Someone could post asking what kind of monitor to get and you would reply "get a X1900 because it can do AA+HDR....... plus NVIDIA does not work with monitors" :roll:

I dont get paid, yet certain people here say I do. (one of who is now banned for a month)

Its not paranoia, when its the truth.

Care to give me an example? Or is this more lies? Please, give a link. But since you did bring it up, I had to wait on SLI, because it didnt work with my monitor. SLI didnt work with Widescreen LCD's for several months. Obviously its fixed now. Such wasnt the case when SLI came out. You see, unlike you, I was, and am on the front lines with hardware.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

What I find two faced is that the same people who defend tRollo are the ones attacking Ackmed and the two are not even comparable... tRollo never gave unbiased advice and Ackmed does. Ackmed isn't scared to recomend nVidia if the price is right and has done so in the past.

You MUST be joking. Akmed is the biggest ATI fanboy on this site. Heck he is the biggest fanboy on multiple sites. Even people who I consider big ATI fans have taken a step back from him. You really should go and read his posts.....

Please, do show an example of me being a fanboy. Do I think ATi does somethings better? Yes. Do I say as such? Yes. Do I think NV is better at things? Yes. Do I post as such? Yes.

An example? You don't have to go any further than the first post you made in this very thread.

:Quote Ackmed:
"How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA..."

How soon we forget.????

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

What I find two faced is that the same people who defend tRollo are the ones attacking Ackmed and the two are not even comparable... tRollo never gave unbiased advice and Ackmed does. Ackmed isn't scared to recomend nVidia if the price is right and has done so in the past.

You MUST be joking. Akmed is the biggest ATI fanboy on this site. Heck he is the biggest fanboy on multiple sites. Even people who I consider big ATI fans have taken a step back from him. You really should go and read his posts.....

Please, do show an example of me being a fanboy. Do I think ATi does somethings better? Yes. Do I say as such? Yes. Do I think NV is better at things? Yes. Do I post as such? Yes.

An example? You don't have to go any further than the first post you made in this very thread.

: Quote Ackmed :
"How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA..."

How soon we forget.???? What on earth else do you think you were getting flak for?

 

josh6079

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Do we really need this place to become Salem? Everyone knows the reason for this witch hunt that is constatnly going on:
Originally posted by: Ackmed
I am biased.
Everyone here is biased to some degree and it shows whether they are trying to show it or not. Admitting that fact wouldn't be a very good method for a salesman to use. Do you think a car salesman would tell you that the only reason why he's suggesting a Toyota to you is because he's biased towards Toyotas?

As long as people can disregard their bias when they are putting their favorite manufactures to the test, nothing's wrong with enjoying a company that continues to give them what they want.

Fanboys exist. Their presentation of information isn't annoying. Only their presentation of information when it isn't being asked for is annoying. (That's why you're getting some heat from other members Ackmed, because everyone here knows that ATI can do HDR+AA and if they didn't know then they would be finding out on the other existent HDR vs. AA thread)

As far as akshayt's problems, I think he should trade me that crappy X1900XT for my (really really non-crappy and perfectly working) X1900GT. It would spare no expense akshayt. :Q I'm sounding like a salesman!!
 

beserker15

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Originally posted by: josh6079
As far as akshayt's problems, I think he should trade me that crappy X1900XT for my (really really non-crappy and perfectly working) X1900GT. It would spare no expense akshayt. :Q I'm sounding like a salesman!!

pffft, it's obvious his issue is coming from the new x1x00 series card. What he need is to trade it for my x800gto2! Proven to be running great for a long time now. ;) As for the whole fanboy/salesman hunt thing, must we do this in every thread that involves ATi or Nvidia specific stuff? I mean if you don't like Ackmed or someone, pm them, what''s the point in just trying to flame him on the spot? His original comment was out of the blue, but it was just trying to say that ATI cards can run the game well (with the added comment about hdr+aa, which I agree has been stated enough times already). I just don't think that comment alone is bad enough for everyone to just start jumping in and completely throw this thread off topic...cause akshayt did promise screenies....albeit in 24-48 hours... As for his question about overheating, tell us some temps. We can't diagnose your computer through the internet you know, we need some values.
 

Wreckage

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
I dont get paid, yet certain people here say I do. (one of who is now banned for a month)
Hmmmm, sounds like the Rollo thing all over again.

I don't know and I don't care if you get paid or not, I just think your posts sometimes sound like a press release. To get someone banned over a disagreement with you is, very sad to say the least.



The member got himself banned. There are a few more of you that are right on the verge.
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TanisHalfElven

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Ackmed
I dont get paid, yet certain people here say I do. (one of who is now banned for a month)
Hmmmm, sounds like the Rollo thing all over again.

I don't know and I don't care if you get paid or not, I just think your posts sometimes sound like a press release. To get someone banned over a disagreement with you is, very sad to say the least.



The member got himself banned. There are a few more of you that are right on the verge.
AnandTech Moderator


ooooooooooooooooooooooh mods in the video forum. ;)
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

:Quote Ackmed:
"How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA..."

How soon we forget.????

How is that being a fanboy? Its called, the truth. Have you even read any of his previous posts?




 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

:Quote Ackmed:
"How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA..."

How soon we forget.????

How is that being a fanboy? Its called, the truth. Have you even read any of his previous posts?

Yes, you are right. It is 100% truthful, which was never in dispute. Do you think you can explain, in your own words, what we were complaining about? I just want to make sure you have an understanding before I even try to talk about it further.
Look at the OP's statement. Then look at your first post in this thread. Tell me what you really see.

 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

:Quote Ackmed:
"How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA..."

How soon we forget.????

How is that being a fanboy? Its called, the truth. Have you even read any of his previous posts?

Yes, you are right. It is 100% truthful, which was never in dispute. Do you think you can explain, in your own words, what we were complaining about? I just want to make sure you have an understanding before I even try to talk about it further.
Look at the OP's statement. Then look at your first post in this thread. Tell me what you really see.

Its pretty easy to see. BFG knows how it would end, just like it did. Him not taking any advice.

What you're complaining about (and claiming I am getting money for posting) is me posting factual information, that disputes his claim that its "that bad" on ATi hardware. I dont care if you like my post to be honest, you did nothing but troll. Thats what is clear to see. Continue, and you'll get ignored.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

:Quote Ackmed:
"How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA..."

How soon we forget.????

How is that being a fanboy? Its called, the truth. Have you even read any of his previous posts?

Yes, you are right. It is 100% truthful, which was never in dispute. Do you think you can explain, in your own words, what we were complaining about? I just want to make sure you have an understanding before I even try to talk about it further.
Look at the OP's statement. Then look at your first post in this thread. Tell me what you really see.

Its pretty easy to see. BFG knows how it would end, just like it did. Him not taking any advice.

What you're complaining about (and claiming I am getting money for posting) is me posting factual information, that disputes his claim that its "that bad" on ATi hardware. I dont care if you like my post to be honest, you did nothing but troll. Thats what is clear to see. Continue, and you'll get ignored.

Ah. So now it is clear you do not understand. Your post, while factual, had no place and was completely out of context for this thread. Which is why a few of us took the "Where the heck did that come from?" stance. And still do. I would like you to get it through your head, that I am not saying you posted anything "untrue". Do you get this? You did not lie. You are correct, you posted a fact. But you do not have to lie, to be considered a fanboy. You may or may not get this. I'm leaning on the "not" part. I really don't know if you are paid or compensated for what you do. It is a possibility of course. The scales seem to tip that way anyway. Especially when you come up with an out of context comments that would SEEM like and advertisement. So, ignore me if you can. As long as the conversation is civil, I don't see why you would.