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Megatomic

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: akshayt
What advice did I ignore?
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1. WHAT is your PS . . . it HAS to be 'beefy'.

2. dump the O/C . . . run it at STOCK speeds and default. :p

. . . and 3. "reinstall your OS" usually works
[if everything else fails]:Q

:D

finally . . . . 4. 'forget' demos and use games to test your rig. ;)
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you got 1 outta 4 :p

back early from work and less cranky than before i left . . . :)

You PS may not be enough for your O'cd system

the fact that your had improvement when your system went to default seems to indicate there is an error in setup - double check your BIOS and perhaps Reinstall XP . . . perhaps there was an error or you messed up a MB driver.

Game DEMOS are NOT generally reliable for testing Rigs - and may be buggy . . . only use fully PATCHED games. ;)

Finally. your CPU is not DC [is it?] . . . SS2 still has problems with Dual-core

FINALLY what are your 1) Case, 2) CPU and 3) XTX temps? Many cases are designed to cool better CLOSED.
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Yep, I had to manually set affinity when I played SS2 once I got my 4800+. Same with Painkiller.
 
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josh6079

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How can it be that bad with an ATi card?
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Because even those super duper ATI card's are dependent on system stability and drivers.

OP, you shouldn't be overclocking. In fact, and I'm sure others would agree, you shouldn't even be putting together a computer rig yourself because everytime you run into a problem you only do 1/4 or what we tell you to do.

CAT 6.8 with .NET 1.1, did have problems while installation. Cancelled it half way through. Uninstalled it through windows and then installed it again. Even .Net installation may have not been in the correct order.
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If you installed CAT's 6.8's, then you've installed .NET 1.1 at least.

This thread hasn't mentioned this is crap or that is crap.
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Really? You don't say..........
It was a reference to your other thread blaming the engineers at ATI and their X1900XT product.

Regardless, you need help and that's what these forums are for. I'm going to list things for you in order to try and keep you from selectively picking each piece of advice you want to listen/respond to.

[*]Make sure all of your hardware is at original specs through your bios. (Reset your CMOS)

[*]Do a fresh install of Windows

[*]Install motherboard drivers. (Chipset, ethernet, etc.)

[*]Install .NET Framework

[*]Install CATALYST 6.8 Drivers

[*]Install desired games

[*]Patch desired games

[*]Install periphial drivers (If you need to. Wireless keyboard, mouse, etc.)

[*]Install FRAPS

If the problem persists, give us game setting examples and screenshots with the framerate when the problem is at hand.
 
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Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA...
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+ $0.26
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Your attempt at trolling? Dont get mad because someone put out some facts, that SS2 isnt "that bad" on ATi cards.
 
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TanisHalfElven

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askay person.
are you professinal troll or gifted amaeture.

first you say te x1900xt is crap.
then you go around recommending x1900xt to everyone (even those looking to buy non gaming cards)
then you say SS2 lags

what the F_U_C_KING H_E_LL does lag mean.
run FRAPS and give us the min max frames.

also didn't you say we are all bad ppl and the nice ppl at tech enclave helped you out. go ask them for help then.
 
BFG10K

BFG10K

Lifer
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How can it be that bad with an ATi card?
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It isn't - it flew on my X800XL. In fact my X800XL was almost as fast as my old 7800GT under HQ.

Also if you look at modern benchmarks you'll see ATi creaming nVidia in this game.
 
Paratus

Paratus

Lifer
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I think he's misintepretting 'lag'.

Try turning on Vsync.

Otherwise PEBKAC.
 
Keysplayr

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA...
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+ $0.26
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Your attempt at trolling?
Actually, it was sort of a "Where the hell did that come from?" post.

Dont get mad because someone put out some facts, that SS2 isnt "that bad" on ATi cards.
Mad? Honestly Ackmed, if I threw out a left field comment like the one you did, then you can call me mad. The OP asked "how can it be this bad" and you come out with, "It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA"??????? Obviously the OP is having trouble for whatever reason, most likey user error, but you still deemed it necessary to throw in it's better because it can do HDR+AA. And you believe that I should think you're not paid???? Come on already. :laugh:
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redbox

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Ackmed
How can it be that bad with an ATi card? It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA...
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+ $0.26
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Your attempt at trolling?
Actually, it was sort of a "Where the hell did that come from?" post.

Dont get mad because someone put out some facts, that SS2 isnt "that bad" on ATi cards.
Mad? Honestly Ackmed, if I threw out a left field comment like the one you did, then you can call me mad. The OP asked "how can it be this bad" and you come out with, "It can actually be better... because it can do HDR+AA"??????? Obviously the OP is having trouble for whatever reason, most likey user error, but you still deemed it necessary to throw in it's better because it can do HDR+AA. And you believe that I should think you're not paid???? Come on already. :laugh:
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QFT! I don't understand where in Zeus's butt hole his comment came from. A$$hat has enough problems getting his x1900xtx to be something other than 'crap' I doubt that he has the grey matter to know or care what HDR+AA is. All ackmed did was offer advertisement for ATI just like a paid shill would do.

IMO ackmed has no credibility. He lost it all when he was trying to say that HRC was good while AEG where the "bad guys". Not only that but his flat out denial that the x1950 is a paper launch. He either is paid or he really likes the cock.



I can't begin to tell you how tired I am of your ****** attitude and continous trolling. You have been warned in the past. Take the next MONTH, to clear you head and grow up.
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akshayt

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Feb 13, 2004
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Make sure all of your hardware is at original specs through your bios. (Reset your CMOS)
Brought everything to stock by bios

Do a fresh install of Windows
Formatted all HDD drives and installed XP after that just 2-3days ago and this is what I have done about half a dozen times hoping to solve the stuttering problem

Install motherboard drivers. (Chipset, ethernet, etc.)
Did that

Install .NET Framework
Did that

Install CATALYST 6.8 Drivers
Did that

Install desired games
Did that

Patch desired games
Didn't do that

Install periphial drivers (If you need to. Wireless keyboard, mouse, etc.)
Never do that

I have use driver cleaner to uninstall drivers.

My stuttering problem may have almost gone but I now get lagging as never before.

Install FRAPS
 
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akshayt

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PC was default while installing XP.

My powersupply is Antec NeoHE 500 = oem Seasonic and it is more than beafy enough with 3 rails of 17A each and a total of 456W @ 12V lines continously @ 50C with about 85% efficiency.
 
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josh6079

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Mar 17, 2006
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Patch desired games
Didn't do that
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Did I say to NOT to patch the games? Good night son.............I told you to patch them. I swear to God, if Joe Dirt asked you to make him a Big N Tasty, you'd forget the Tasty.
My stuttering problem may have almost gone
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:confused: So is it or isn't it gone? So it was just about to go away, but then..........not really? WTF do you mean?
but I now get lagging as never before.
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How is that different than the stuttering? If you're not playing online, you're not experiencing lag there bud.
Install FRAPS
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Good, cause that's what I told you to do. Now show us what your problem is through a recording or screenshot. Is the "stuttering" you are experiencing effecting your frame rates or are your frame rates good with the problem only happening when turning alot or some other specific action?
 
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Sable

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Jan 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: x80064
Only thing I can think of is that maybe the XTX is crap....
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Bwhahahaahahaaa :thumbsup:

edit:

And akshayt, seriously, get an Xbox360.
 
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akshayt

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FRAPS is installed. FPS are mostly good except in Hitman 4 Blood Money where they are crap even at 12X10 without AA and AF.
 
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josh6079

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Mar 17, 2006
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Originally posted by: akshayt
FRAPS is installed. FPS are mostly good except in Hitman 4 Blood Money where they are crap even at 12X10 without AA and AF.
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Thankyou for that peice of useless information.

Perhaps you should patch the games you're playing.
 
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Sable

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Originally posted by: akshayt
FRAPS is installed. FPS are mostly good except in Hitman 4 Blood Money where they are crap even at 12X10 without AA and AF.
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Frame rates are good except where they aren't? o_O

You've got to be extracting the urine!!!!
 
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