Serena Williams goes nuts at the US Open

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
All the "she's a man" remarks need not apply to this thread.

Yeah, what she did was inexcusable, but that call was horrendous. It's akin to the nba in the last minute or two where you "let the boys play," you don't decide the match on a foul. Moreover, as far as I know she hadn't been called for a foot fault the entire match and that was very very close. So, when you're playing at the highest possible level of competition, in a very close match, and losing and all of a sudden that happens...yes, her reaction was bad, but you can't really lambast her. I would expect an apology after she cools off. We don't like it when Lebron walks off the court, but shit happens. We will never know what it's like to be in that situation so it's kinda unfair to judge.

Clijsters had won the match, but she didn't get to celebrate, that's the sad part. New York didn't get to celebrate their comeback kid, they were robbed of that and that's why people are really pissed off. Clijsters got jipped, I hope she wins.

The foot fault wasn't the only reason she lost. It was also her actions afterward. I saw the youtube video again and it seemed like she dropped some f bombs and also threatened to shove the ball down the line judge's throat.

It's the line judge's job to make those calls. I don't see how anybody else can say it was definitely a bad call unless they had the same view. I haven't seen any videos that prove it was a bad call yet.

If she did that in any other sport she would have been ejected for much less.

I was there to watch one of Serena's earlier games and I wasn't impressed by her playing. Clijsters would have won anyways without a doubt. It's too bad that Serena's poor attitude ruined her win.

Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oA792DGT2E

Serena interview: http://www.usopen.org/en_US/ne...09121252748398140.html
No chance she's going to apologize.

 

[tboo]

You can take the girl out of the ghetto.....

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Bad call or not, that is not an excuse. Was it a questionable call? Yeah, however bad and questionable calls happen ALL the time in sports, its part of the game. I mean there have been pivotal and even championship games that have come down to last second bad calls.(OSU vs Miami in the BCS title game several years ago).

If an athlete did that in any other sport, theyd be tossed immediately, and fined or suspended.

Golf and Tennis two supposedly high brow sports have the biggest brats and more poor sportsmanship than the mainstream sports.

Tennis maybe.... Golf? No way.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Bad call or not, that is not an excuse. Was it a questionable call? Yeah, however bad and questionable calls happen ALL the time in sports, its part of the game. I mean there have been pivotal and even championship games that have come down to last second bad calls.(OSU vs Miami in the BCS title game several years ago).

If an athlete did that in any other sport, theyd be tossed immediately, and fined or suspended.

Golf and Tennis two supposedly high brow sports have the biggest brats and more poor sportsmanship than the mainstream sports.

Tennis maybe.... Golf? No way.

There are plenty of pro golfers who throw temper tantrums(not just Tiger who has been villified for it recently). The coverage just rarely keeps cameras rolling and instead go to another golfer.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Bad call or not, that is not an excuse. Was it a questionable call? Yeah, however bad and questionable calls happen ALL the time in sports, its part of the game. I mean there have been pivotal and even championship games that have come down to last second bad calls.(OSU vs Miami in the BCS title game several years ago).

If an athlete did that in any other sport, theyd be tossed immediately, and fined or suspended.

Golf and Tennis two supposedly high brow sports have the biggest brats and more poor sportsmanship than the mainstream sports.

Tennis maybe.... Golf? No way.

There are plenty of pro golfers who throw temper tantrums(not just Tiger who has been villified for it recently). The coverage just rarely keeps cameras rolling and instead go to another golfer.

I've been watching golf since the 60's and I hav'nt noticed any of these brats you speak of.
Woods maybe. He's no Nicklaus in his decorum.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Bad call or not, that is not an excuse. Was it a questionable call? Yeah, however bad and questionable calls happen ALL the time in sports, its part of the game. I mean there have been pivotal and even championship games that have come down to last second bad calls.(OSU vs Miami in the BCS title game several years ago).

If an athlete did that in any other sport, theyd be tossed immediately, and fined or suspended.

Golf and Tennis two supposedly high brow sports have the biggest brats and more poor sportsmanship than the mainstream sports.

Tennis maybe.... Golf? No way.

There are plenty of pro golfers who throw temper tantrums(not just Tiger who has been villified for it recently). The coverage just rarely keeps cameras rolling and instead go to another golfer.

I've been watching golf since the 60's and I hav'nt noticed any of these brats you speak of.
Woods maybe. He's no Nicklaus in his decorum.

Umm John Daly?

Golf like doesn't have such outbursts because really its between the golfer and teh course. You can't "blame" the linesman, ref or whoever. I guess you can look at your golf clubs and yell at them.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Golf and Tennis two supposedly high brow sports have the biggest brats and more poor sportsmanship than the mainstream sports.

They have poor sportsmanship. I think it's a pretty big stretch to say they have more than other mainstream sports. What Serena did was pretty extreme for tennis, but it's pretty commonplace in other mainstream sports.

Edit: Not threatening the officials, but yelling at them. Usually it's the coaches in other sports.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: herkulease

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Bad call or not, that is not an excuse. Was it a questionable call? Yeah, however bad and questionable calls happen ALL the time in sports, its part of the game. I mean there have been pivotal and even championship games that have come down to last second bad calls.(OSU vs Miami in the BCS title game several years ago).

If an athlete did that in any other sport, theyd be tossed immediately, and fined or suspended.

Golf and Tennis two supposedly high brow sports have the biggest brats and more poor sportsmanship than the mainstream sports.

Tennis maybe.... Golf? No way.

There are plenty of pro golfers who throw temper tantrums(not just Tiger who has been villified for it recently). The coverage just rarely keeps cameras rolling and instead go to another golfer.

I've been watching golf since the 60's and I hav'nt noticed any of these brats you speak of.
Woods maybe. He's no Nicklaus in his decorum.

Umm John Daly?

Golf like doesn't have such outbursts because really its between the golfer and teh course. You can't "blame" the linesman, ref or whoever. I guess you can look at your golf clubs and yell at them.

FWIW.In my experience of watching many sporting events over the years Golf is the most gentlemanly and representative of good sportsmanship I have seen.

 

[venkman]

She looks like Lebron James

 

[Exterous]

If they remove the undecended testicles the rage will drop with the testosterone levels

 

[Krynj]

Almost looks like an episode of Cops.

 

[Ballatician]

Bad call by lineswoman. It appears that no foot fault occurred.

Horrible reaction by Serena. She has never been a gracious winner.

I do find the inconsistency funny however. Earlier in the day they played old US open matches during the rain delay. One of those matches was Jimmy Connors in the 4th round of the 91 US open. The main judge of the match overruled a point that everyone knew that Jimmy made. The judge was on the opposite side of the court, a horrible call that Mac-Cam confirmed he was wrong about. This was in the first set. Jimmy Connors went berserk on the official for like 10 min calling him a bum among other things and after every point he motioned and yelled at the official to get out of the chair. The judge simply looked at him and didn't give him so much as a warning.

It seems like Serena said some really bad stuff yesterday so I won't defend her nasty words but I wanted to point out that a lot of tennis players over the years have had heated exchanges with judges without facing penalty.

She could have just kept playing but her ego was too large to let the call go.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Ballatician
Bad call by lineswoman. It appears that no foot fault occurred.

Horrible reaction by Serena. She has never been a gracious winner.

I do find the inconsistency funny however. Earlier in the day they played old US open matches during the rain delay. One of those matches was Jimmy Connors in the 4th round of the 91 US open. The main judge of the match overruled a point that everyone knew that Jimmy made. The judge was on the opposite side of the court, a horrible call that Mac-Cam confirmed he was wrong about. This was in the first set. Jimmy Connors went berserk on the official for like 10 min calling him a bum among other things and after every point he motioned and yelled at the official to get out of the chair. The judge simply looked at him and didn't give him so much as a warning.

It seems like Serena said some really bad stuff yesterday so I won't defend her nasty words but I wanted to point out that a lot of tennis players over the years have had heated exchanges with judges without facing penalty.

She could have just kept playing but her ego was too large to let the call go.

Maybe the difference is Williams' actions and words were considered a genuine threat and Connors' were not. I don't know.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

That was one of THE worst calls I've ever seen in tennis. That line judge deserves to be thrown out and banned for life. I could say a lot of racist things right now about that line judge but I'll hold my tongue. Obviously what Serena did was wrong, but if you think she's the only player that calls out the officials you're fucking crazy.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: Ballatician
Bad call by lineswoman. It appears that no foot fault occurred.

Horrible reaction by Serena. She has never been a gracious winner.

I do find the inconsistency funny however. Earlier in the day they played old US open matches during the rain delay. One of those matches was Jimmy Connors in the 4th round of the 91 US open. The main judge of the match overruled a point that everyone knew that Jimmy made. The judge was on the opposite side of the court, a horrible call that Mac-Cam confirmed he was wrong about. This was in the first set. Jimmy Connors went berserk on the official for like 10 min calling him a bum among other things and after every point he motioned and yelled at the official to get out of the chair. The judge simply looked at him and didn't give him so much as a warning.

It seems like Serena said some really bad stuff yesterday so I won't defend her nasty words but I wanted to point out that a lot of tennis players over the years have had heated exchanges with judges without facing penalty.

She could have just kept playing but her ego was too large to let the call go.

No video angle available to the public shows whether it was a foot fault or not. All I've seen is that it was from behind serena and you can't see much. They either don't have it or won't release the angle that goes along the baseline. I remember years ago they have it.

You have to realize the tantrum/tirades Connors and McEnroe threw were nearly 20+ years ago. Maybe tennis as a whole is trying to move away from that and but some etiquette back into the game.

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
That was one of THE worst calls I've ever seen in tennis. That line judge deserves to be thrown out and banned for life. I could say a lot of racist things right now about that line judge but I'll hold my tongue. Obviously what Serena did was wrong, but if you think she's the only player that calls out the officials you're fucking crazy.

Clearly you don't watch a lot of tennis. Lines people that are in no position to make calls should be thrown out when the make errant calls they shouldn't be making.

This judge sole job is to watch the baseline. When she starts making errant calls as to whether the was wide or not then you got something.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
I could say a lot of racist things right now about that line judge but I'll hold my tongue.

Go ahead and say them. That should be entertaining.

 

[Leros]

While Serena deserves some sort of punishment, its not fair to punish Kim Clijsters by not letting her win by her own talents.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
That was one of THE worst calls I've ever seen in tennis. That line judge deserves to be thrown out and banned for life. I could say a lot of racist things right now about that line judge but I'll hold my tongue. Obviously what Serena did was wrong, but if you think she's the only player that calls out the officials you're fucking crazy.

there is a diffrence between calling out and threatning physical abuse. one should just be a foul one should get you kicked out of teh tournement.

its hard to tell from what few views they have released if it was a foul. not that it really matters. there is NO excuse to threaten voilence against a judge.

Considering that Serena is saying she didnt say what video tape says she said i suspect she does not get what she did was wrong.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
No wonder black men prefer white women.

Uh, they prefer white wemens because they're easier, white wemens are just as crazy and explode over shit too. you fail...

Yeah... the ugly fat ones.

No, it applies to about all of them, a regular sized white woman is still easier to get in the sack than a fat black woman. Black man tend to like the fat white wemens because they're even easier then their skinner counter parts.

whte wemens = easy.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
No wonder black men prefer white women.

Uh, they prefer white wemens because they're easier, white wemens are just as crazy and explode over shit too. you fail...

And some white guys prefer black women because they're easier. How does that work?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
No wonder black men prefer white women.

Uh, they prefer white wemens because they're easier, white wemens are just as crazy and explode over shit too. you fail...

Yeah... the ugly fat ones.

No, it applies to about all of them, a regular sized white woman is still easier to get in the sack than a fat black woman. Black man tend to like the fat white wemens because they're even easier then their skinner counter parts.

whte wemens = easy.

...that is idiotic. really thats insane. to say that black men like white women because they are easyer? lol wow

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
No wonder black men prefer white women.

Uh, they prefer white wemens because they're easier, white wemens are just as crazy and explode over shit too. you fail...

Yeah... the ugly fat ones.

No, it applies to about all of them, a regular sized white woman is still easier to get in the sack than a fat black woman. Black man tend to like the fat white wemens because they're even easier then their skinner counter parts.

whte wemens = easy.

...that is idiotic. really thats insane. to say that black men like white women because they are easyer? lol wow

Yeah, that is just completely moronic. WTF.

KT

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
No wonder black men prefer white women.

Uh, they prefer white wemens because they're easier, white wemens are just as crazy and explode over shit too. you fail...

Yeah... the ugly fat ones.

No, it applies to about all of them, a regular sized white woman is still easier to get in the sack than a fat black woman. Black man tend to like the fat white wemens because they're even easier then their skinner counter parts.

whte wemens = easy.

...that is idiotic. really thats insane. to say that black men like white women because they are easyer? lol wow

It makes him feel better. Classy tried to pull this shit a few years ago. It's like they're trying to get back at "the man" by claiming to fuck their women and calling them easy.

Sad, really. But hey... if it makes 'em feel better...

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
That was one of THE worst calls I've ever seen in tennis. That line judge deserves to be thrown out and banned for life. I could say a lot of racist things right now about that line judge but I'll hold my tongue. Obviously what Serena did was wrong, but if you think she's the only player that calls out the officials you're fucking crazy.

Would you think differently if the line judge was a black woman instead?

Serena didn't call her out. She THREATENED her. It's different from calling a ref/judge an idiot or blind or get out of here. You don't see the difference between what "you're blind" and "I'll shove a ball down your throat" can do to someone?

 

[masterxfob]

there's no replay that shows conclusive evidence of whether or not it was a foot fault. so it's baffling how many people are certain that it wasn't when the person with the best view was the linesman who's job it is to call what they see. every one makes mistakes, and it very well could have been a bad call, but there's no way to tell from the replays. regardless of all this, her actions were unacceptable and she should be penalized.