Senior al Queda Leader - DEAD . . . .

CaptnKirk

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Breaking - from BBC
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Pakistani army spokesman identified the dead man as "Mr Abdullah" and described him as an intelligence chief.

But US officials have told the BBC they were not aware of any such person.

Pakistan says it will continue its operations to clear suspected foreign militants from villages along the Afghan border.

American officials told the BBC they were waiting for Pakistan to provide them with more information about the slain suspect.

A Pakistani army spokesman, Maj Gen Shaukat Sultan, said they could not make any more details public.

However correspondents say one of the FBI's most wanted al-Qaeda suspects, Abu Mohammed al-Masri, often uses the name Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, according to the Bureau's website.

An Egyptian national suspected of involvement in the 1998 African embassy bombings, he is also believed to have run al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan, however it is not clear if he is the suspect described by the Pakistani military.

Cordon lifted
The army said it had dismantled a "terrorist structure" in a prolonged operation in the South Waziristan tribal area that ended on Sunday.

It was aimed against al-Qaeda and Taleban members and tribesmen sheltering them.

Pakistan says 46 soldiers have died so far in nearly two weeks of fighting, as well as 63 opposition fighters. Another 163 have been arrested.

"This stage of the operation is over," Gen Sultan told the BBC's Urdu service.

He said the "basic objectives" of the operation were met - one of which was " to dismantle the terrorist structure" in South Waziristan.

The army on Sunday lifted a cordon around the area of the fighting and began withdrawing some of its troops.

But the spokesman said troops would remain in the tribal areas until they were "purged of militants".

There were reports that another key militant, the Uzbek Islamist Tahir Yuldashev - said to rank 10th in the al-Qaeda leadership - was wounded and still at large in the region.

On Sunday fighters linked to al-Qaeda released 12 hostages they seized at the beginning of the army offensive. Two more hostages are expected to be released soon.

The Yargulkhel tribesmen had insisted they would not release the hostages until the army ceased its operation in South Waziristan.

The army operation in South Waziristan focused on an area west of the town of Wana.

US co-ordination
Pakistan's largest military operation in the tribal areas began on 16 March with the aim of catching or killing al-Qaeda leaders and their supporters in the area.

Initially, al-Qaeda deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri was believed to have been among them.

However, a tape recording purportedly by Mr Zawahri was aired on Arabic television during the offensive - and deemed by the American CIA to be probably authentic, even though the time of its recording could not be established.

The army conceded during the operation that suspects may have escaped through a network of secret tunnels.

The Pakistani operation was being co-ordinated with a similar sweep by US forces on the other side of the border.

The US has announced it is sending up to 2,000 more marines to Afghanistan to step up the hunt for Osama Bin Laden and other al-Qaeda and Taleban leaders.
 

tnitsuj

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I'll believe it when someone in the US government confirms it. I don't trust Pakistan at all.
 

kage69

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And I rather have my doubts about *our* government at this point in time, too.

Touche conjur, touche...

I should have appended mine with "...so long as it's not from President Cheney or that other guy."
 
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: kage69
I'll believe it when someone in the US government confirms it. I don't trust Pakistan at all.

Seconded.

And I rather have my doubts about *our* government at this point in time, too.

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The army said it had dismantled a "terrorist structure" in a prolonged operation in the South Waziristan tribal area that ended on Sunday.

they need a big "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner
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this is for your consumption, so drink up americans, and nevermind that waziristan is not really under any state's control and that the "dismantling" may be more accurately termed a tactical retreat. If #2 was killed, then that's a positive development, but don't think that there was any successful "hammer & anvil" operation here that "rooted out Al Qaeda" or something like that.

Musharraf left counting the cost
By Syed Saleem Shahzad

KARACHI - The 12-day Pakistani army operation in the South Waziristan tribal area near the Afghan frontier is winding down following the release on Sunday of 12 government officials and soldiers seized by alleged al-Qaeda fighters and tribal allies. Similarly, a number of tribal suspects held by the army have been set free or will be released soon.

Those released by the tribals were among 14 people captured at the start of a clash in which more than 100 people have been killed. After cordoning off the area around Wana in South Waziristan with over 5,000 troops and losing about 50 soldiers in the offensive, the military says that "we have almost achieved our set targets" in driving al-Qaeda fugitives and Afghan resistance fighters from the region.

Tension has been high after the execution of eight Pakistan soldiers, who had been taken hostage by the fighters during an ambush on an army convoy last Tuesday.

The end of open hostilities, however, is only the beginning, and far from achieving its targets, the army, and Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf, are left with far bigger problems than when they first embarked on the mission into the tribal region nearly two weeks ago.

Call for help
Although the Pakistan army has put a brave face on its South Waziristan escapade, claiming that its job has been done, in reality it had to rely on outside help to extricate itself with a semblance of its "face" intact.

After all efforts to pacify the hostile tribals failed - the semi-autonomous regions are notoriously anti-central authority - the government persuaded leading clerics to bring pressure to bear on the tribals to negotiate a truce. The clerics, who belong to the six-party Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) religious political party that is well represented in the National Assembly as well as the provincial governments of North West Frontier Province and Balochistan, are usually perceived as anti-US, but in fact, when the chips are down, they dance to Musharraf's tune.

The army sought help from the clerics on two fronts:
· To use their influence among the tribes to get them to compromise;
· To prevent the spread of a campaign started by some extreme religious leaders in Islamabad in which soldiers serving in the tribal regions were to be denied funeral rites.

Winners and losers
Despite heavy United States pressure for a sustained campaign in Pakistan to once and for all drive all insurgents (both foreign fighters and Afghan resistance) from their sanctuaries in the tribal areas, the operation has now ended.

In terms of the broader picture, the plan was for the Pakistan army on the one side and US troops across the border in Afghanistan to sandwich all resistance between a "hammer and an anvil" and drive them from the Shawal area - an inhospitable no man's land that straddles the border. This is nowhere near to being achieved.

And there has been a strong backlash against the Pakistan est*blishment, both in the tribal areas and in the country in general, the extent of which has severely rattled the country's leaders. Indeed, according to insiders who spoke to Asia Times Online, there is a perception that, given the failings of the South Waziristan operation, there is an "an intelligence within an intelligence" and "an army within an army" in Pakistan and that factions in these organizations backed the tribals "in the name of Islam". According to sources, more than 150 soldiers of the army and para-military forces refused to take part in the action, including at least one colonel and a major.

The release of a tape last week purported to have been made by Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's No 2 in al-Qaeda, also shook the est*blishment. Al-Zawahiri was reported to be the "high profile target" of the South Wazaristan operation. In the tape, al-Zawahiri called Musharraf a "traitor" and urged people to overthrow his government. "Musharraf seeks to st*b the Islamic resistance in Afghanistan in the back. Every Muslim in Pakistan should work hard to get rid of this client government, which will continue to submit to America until it destroys Pakistan," the speaker on the tape said.

As a result, for the first time ever, the Inter-Services Intelligence, Military Intelligence and the Intelligence Bureau on Friday conducted a survey in which they canvassed the opinions of professionals, including writers and lawyers, on the possible repercussions of the taped speech.

The political backlash of the South Waziristan operation has been so powerful that Musharraf has inducted former dictator General Zia ul-Haq's son, Ejazul Haq, into the federal cabinet as minister for religious affairs in order to use his good offices - as the son of the staunchly pro-Islam leader - with the religious segments of society.

Tribals take stock
Soon after the truce was announced on Sunday and the Pakistan army began returning to its camp, pamphlets in the Pashto language were widely distributed in Bannu, North Waziristan and South Waziristan. They claimed: "Do not ever make the mistake of chasing the mujahideen of the Taliban and al-Qaeda." The pamphlets clearly warned those tribals who had cooperated with Pakistan and spied on the fugitives.

In a public gathering on Monday in Wana in South Wazaristan, religious and tribal leaders gathered to take stock. "It was just like Jasn-e-Fatah [D-Day-like celebrations]," a contact who was present told Asia Times Online. "Wazir tribals presented turbans to more than 100 jirga [council] people as a gesture of thanks and confidence."

Members of the National Assembly in Islamabad and others gave speeches, the gist of which can be summarized as follows:
· Congratulations to all the tribes for fighting as a united nation.
· The tribes had once again proved their "glorious traditions" of fighting evil.
· The Federally-Administered Tribal Areas will remain independent.
· The Central administration is always hostile to the tribal people and has est*blished new traditions of "cruelty and barbarism".
· Musharraf was misguided about the alleged presence of bin Laden and al-Zawahiri and other al-Qaeda people.

The meeting concluded that the army had destroyed 84 houses in its search for fugitives, and that claims that the fugitives had used long tunnels to escape were nonsense. In fact, these are trenches that have been used for many years to carry water. Now the army has destroyed them - and with it the region's water system.

The meeting concluded by saying that those who died in the trouble were shaheed (martyrs), and apologized for the army personal who died, saying it was the fault of the "high ups".

from: Musharraf left counting the cost

see also: Militants Free All Pak Troop Hostages Held In Tribal Area