Senators push to remove Russia from G8

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http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=75915&d=7&m=1&y=2006

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Russia Isn?t the Only Threat to Democracy in Europe
Graham Allison, LA Times

This week, Russia assumed the presidency of the most prestigious club of the world?s leading industrial democracies. But many are questioning not only Russia?s fitness to serve as chair but even its qualification for membership in the Group of 8. China, for example, has not been invited to join this group, despite the fact that it has the second-largest economy in the world in purchasing-power parity (third at dollar exchange rates), because it fails the test of democracy.

Russia?s backsliding from democracy moved Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., to introduce legislation urging President Bush to suspend Russia from the G-8 until President Vladimir V. Putin?s government ?ends its assault on democracy and political freedom.? They point to its lack of adherence to the rule of law, its suppression of independent media and its stifling of the political opposition, among other problems. Their resolution asserts that Russia fails to meet the minimum standards of democratic rule ?that characterize every other member of the G-8.?




The senators? challenge deserves serious consideration. As we stop and reflect, we should ask:

? Can a state ruled by the nation?s wealthiest individual, whose scores of private enterprises depend centrally on state favors, be a member of the G-8?

? Can a state whose leader personally controls all the national television channels legitimately qualify for membership in a club of democracies?

? Should a state whose leader rewrites laws to save himself and his friends from prosecution on corruption charges pass the test on democracy and the rule of law?

? Can a state whose leader forces through changes to the constitution to benefit his party before upcoming elections properly sit at the table alongside Britain, France and the US?

By this point, most readers will suspect that the nation referred to in these questions is not Russia ? it is Italy.



Since he was elected prime minister for a second term in 2001, Silvio Berlusconi has reversed many of the reforms of the early 1990s that were designed to ensure a stable democratic government and restrain corruption. In an effort to save his own party?s majority in parliament, Berlusconi recently reversed landmark electoral reforms and restored a proportional voting system, which previously resulted in an unprecedented rate of government turnover and inefficiency.

He has nullified laws that made anticorruption prosecutions possible, which led to an increase in organized crime. He continues to push laws through the parliament that clear him and his business partners of charges of false accounting, bribery and other felonies.

Moreover, Berlusconi effectively controls 90 percent of national television broadcasting. He owns three networks and has indirect control over public broadcasting through his ability to influence the choice of the management at these stations. In its 2003 freedom of the press survey, Freedom House downgraded Italy?s ranking from ?free? to ?partly free,? where it remains today.

A leading authority on Italian politics, professor Giovanni Sartori, recently summarized the matter: ?Berlusconi has governed strictly from a cost-benefit analysis of how he can serve himself. By his calculation, his job showed results.?

McCain and Lieberman are right in sounding the alarm about the Putin government?s assault on democracy in Russia. To recognize Berlusconi?s excesses is not to excuse Putin?s. But if the McCain-Lieberman criteria are to be applied, then the US should not excuse a member of the European Union while accusing a former member of the Soviet Union.

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Some of those traits are shared in some sense by the current administration, as well Italy for anyone who follows EU politics as well. The question is is the arguments valid of Russia? or just more politicing using the convinient "evil Russians" that has been used for years. Or is this just the US senators being scared of Russia because of it taking its turn at being president of the G8?
 

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That's what you get for playing politics with oil and gas...
 

RichardE

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Even more reason reason not to kick them out in my opinion, The US will not be affected but the other countries in the EU would.
 

Stunt

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They shouldnt be kicked out...but if they are going to play hardball with the West, they will get a slap on the wrist.
 

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Russia certainly SHOULD be suspended from the G8. They are no more a democracy than Nigeria is.

And again, it's that McCain / Lieberman connection. Will these to just get together and declare themselves candidates for President/VP in 2008 on their own ticket already??? I love the fact that while the rest of Washington is playing corruption scandal, these two are actually getting on with the work of being the largest power in the world and attempting to use it wisely...

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Suspending them might just have the effect of pissing them off and driving them even farther away. I'd go with something a little less aggressive.
 

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Bad idea, we need more globalization not less.

We need to work towards a unified goverment state and removing russia from G8 isn't working towards that.
 

Stunt

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More globalization through trade and markets...not through government :p

How many representatives and agendas does each person need?
 

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Originally posted by: Stunt
More globalization through trade and markets...not through government :p

How many representatives and agendas does each person need?

No, we need more goverment, a global state. No more individual nations. We also need a strong central goverment with athoritative powers. Something like Singapore but more athoritative.
 

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So in your world for every person we have:

several city councellors
several regional public organizations
several state representatives
several departments and representatives for continental United States
a g8 like collective of nations, nato, and the like
and a UN global state

...and you want more government...

How bout you work with what we've got and streamline these partisan and ineffective organizations.
 

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Originally posted by: magomago
I've been told that the G8 really means "The seven richest nations plus Russia" ;)
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Participation of Russia and formation of the G8

In 1991, following the end of the Cold War, the USSR (now Russia) began meeting with the G7 after the main summit. This group became known as the P8 (Political 8), or colloquially the "G7 plus 1", starting with the 1994 Naples summit. Russia was allowed to participate more fully beginning in the 1998 Birmingham summit, marking the creation of the Group of Eight. However, Russia was excluded from the meeting for financial ministers as it was not a major economic power; "G7" now refers specifically to this ministerial level meeting.

At the instigation of then-U.S. President Bill Clinton, "Group of Seven" became the "Group of Eight," with Russia attending most sessions. This was a gesture of appreciation from President Clinton to then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin for pursuing economic reforms, and for their neutrality with respect to the eastward expansion of NATO.

Because of Russia's relative economic (and democratic) instability, there are select G7 sessions on economic affairs in which they do not participate. On February 18, 2005, U.S. Senators Joe Lieberman and John McCain called for Russia to be suspended from the G8 until democratic and political freedoms are ensured by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
 

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These poor excuses of journalists just crack me up.

Did Putin claim that God spoke to him and has the right to ignore laws and Constitution and assume powers that even Brezhnev only dreamed about? Does Putin detain foreign and domestic subjects in secret prisons and claim that no laws on this Earth apply to them? Can Russians be arrested on sight by any policeman on a power trip (like in Britain)? Or does any Russian within a kilometer of Kremlin need police's permission to be there (London)? Or can any Russian be held for 24 months without charges if he is "suspect terrorist" (UK again)?

The answer to all these questions is NO. Much more worrying is the incredible power of a few small economic groups in Russia (which we helped create and plunder the riches of Russia). Putin is the first president who tried to tackle this problem, with a fairly modest results so far.