Senator Warren steps up to the plate

[Jhhnn]

Is there some kind of mailing list for nutters where you all get your buzzword du jour?

Needs more Uh-Wah! Maybe a dash of Benghazi.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Wall Street, like all most every industry "invests" in both parties all the time. That's a fact. To see if these contributions actually mean anything, one would need to look at what these industries have received in exchange for their money.

So I'll ask again; what has Wall Street received for their contributions to hillary? We aren't talking about bill clinton, we are talking about hillary.

How can anyone be this dense? You think they are donating billions to these sleazebags and getting nothing in return?

No human can be that naive...

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Wall Street gave a lot more to Obama than to McCain in 2008. Obama then passed Dodd-Frank. What did Wall Street get for their money?

Yah, they always buy both sides to ensure they get what they want. That's why your voteis basically worthless, and this is an oligarchy.

This election just got started, the real money hasn't even begun to rain down!


Dodd Frank was a shell of a reform to begin with, and they repealed the most intrusive parts. Now the banks are doing the same shit that crashed the world economy, and they are even bigger than they were. They will fail again, and we will be on the hook to bail them out!

 

[dank69]

How can anyone be this dense? You think they are donating billions to these sleazebags and getting nothing in return?

No human can be that naive...

So you can't supply any evidence. You just believe it to be true?

 

[fskimospy]

Yah, they always buy both sides to ensure they get what they want. That's why your voteis basically worthless, and this is an oligarchy.

This election just got started, the real money hasn't even begun to rain down!

Dodd Frank was a shell of a reform to begin with, and they repealed the most intrusive parts. Now the banks are doing the same shit that crashed the world economy, and they are even bigger than they were. They will fail again, and we will be on the hook to bail them out!

Oh good you're doing that thing again like with the ACA where if it doesn't solve all our problems it's worthless. I have to say it's been rare to see the same ideological dogmatism on the left as we commonly see on the right, but you're a good example of it. You're just a mirror image of a Ted Cruz supporter. Every bit as intolerant, just the opposite way.

 

[nickqt]

Wow, Democrats are dumber than I thought. You let the Republicans pick your primary winner.

No, Republicans who should have recognized that Sanders is the guy who wants to help instead voted for Strongman Trump.

Democrats are still picking between HRC and Sanders.

So, Republicans are just as dumb as they've proven to be, time and time again.

#W̶a̶l̶l̶a̶c̶e̶/̶L̶e̶M̶a̶y̶ ̶'1̶6̶

Err...

#Trump/Arpaio '16

 

[mysticjbyrd]

So you can't supply any evidence. You just believe it to be true?

The fact we live in an oligarchy now isn't evidence? What do you want? Oil subsidies, no green energy, endless wars, financial meltdown, for profit prisons, gmo labeling, citizens united, etc... Wtf world do you ppl live in?

Oh good you're doing that thing again like with the ACA where if it doesn't solve all our problems it's worthless. I have to say it's been rare to see the same ideological dogmatism on the left as we commonly see on the right, but you're a good example of it. You're just a mirror image of a Ted Cruz supporter. Every bit as intolerant, just the opposite way.

Except you cannot pretend it's good enough this time... Either these people can't crash our economy again, or they can, and they most certainly can. Dodd Frank is a placebo!

 

[ivwshane]

The fact we live in an oligarchy now isn't evidence? What do you want? Oil subsidies, no green energy, endless wars, financial meltdown, for profit prisons, gmo labeling, citizens united, etc... Wtf world do you ppl live in?



Except you cannot pretend it's good enough this time... Either these people can't crash our economy again, or they can, and they most certainly can. Dodd Frank is a placebo!

The answer you were looking for was, no. No you can't provide any evidence.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

The answer you were looking for was, no. No you can't provide any evidence.

Yuuuuuuge difference between not providing evidence and a gullible twat that puts his fingers in his ears and sings, while evidence is presented.

 

[ivwshane]

Yuuuuuuge difference between not providing evidence and a gullible twat that puts his fingers in his ears and sings, while evidence is presented.

Not really, you are one in the same, a gullible twat who puts his fingers in his ears who can't provide evidence when asked.

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Not really, you are one in the same, a gullible twat who puts his fingers in his ears who can't provide evidence when asked.

You want to think that, but not everyone is a partisan twat, like you.

Well go on then, prove I am wrong, prove to me we don't live in an oligarchy! If you want to claim this is a democracy, prove it.

Ohh wait, you can't!

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

So, now we need to decipher how this happened! So, was it,

A. Magical Leprechauns
B. Billions of dollars flooding into our political system

Tough one... Those leprechauns are known for their greed!

 

[ivwshane]

Your inability to stay on topic is amazing! You make it look so effortlessly.

However, unlike you, I'm capable of following along and my memory lasts longer than a few posts, so I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence for your claims of corruption by hillary.

Until then, keep those fingers in your ears tightly, you twat.

You want to think that, but not everyone is a partisan twat, like you.

Well go on then, prove I am wrong, prove to me we don't live in an oligarchy! If you want to claim this is a democracy, prove it.

Ohh wait, you can't!

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

So, now we need to decipher how this happened! So, was it,

A. Magical fairies
B. Billions of dollars flooding into our political system

Tough one...

 

[mysticjbyrd]

Your inability to stay on topic is amazing! You make it look so effortlessly.

However, unlike you, I'm capable of following along and my memory lasts longer than a few posts, so I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence for your claims of corruption by hillary.

Until then, keep those fingers in your ears tightly, you twat.

Red herring

Put up or shut up.

Where is your evidence?

 

[ivwshane]

Red herring

Put up or shut up.

Where is your evidence?

Deflection.

Put up or shut up.

Where is your evidence?


Come on angry nerd rager! You can do it!

 

[swamplizard]

Senator Warren unleashes tweets on "loser" Trump today. One example is: "Donald Trump knows he's a loser. His insecurities are on parade: petty bullying, attacks on women, cheap racism, flagrant narcissism."

 

[Painman]

Warren (Powow Chow) is nothing but another hack. Always has, always will be.

That idiotic line of attack is precisely what lost Scotty Brown his re-election. He was actually winning, before his supporters put on the fake headdresses/warpaint and went WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP in front of a bunch of news cameras.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Oh yeah, like there's gonna be a 'paper trail' here.

Hillary: Hey guys! Cum give me money for my campaign!
Evil rich white guys: Ummm, ok. And what's in it for us?
Hillary: Nudge nudge, wink wink.
Evil rich white guys: Perfect! Just sign right here, babe!
Hillary: Sure!!!!!!

You really are a special kind of stupid. You and Dank.

I've known for years that the rep establishment is irredeemably corrupt and incompetent, but you and your buddy Dank actually still think your precious dems defecate doughnuts.

Deflection.

Put up or shut up.

Where is your evidence?


Come on angry nerd rager! You can do it!

 

[fskimospy]

The fact we live in an oligarchy now isn't evidence? What do you want? Oil subsidies, no green energy, endless wars, financial meltdown, for profit prisons, gmo labeling, citizens united, etc... Wtf world do you ppl live in?

Oil subsidies wut? No green energy despite green energy increasing at a faster pace than ever before in US history? An almost decade old financial crisis? GMO labeling? (you realize GMO labeling is stupid, right?)

None of this is evidence of any kind. It's just unhinged ranting.

Except you cannot pretend it's good enough this time... Either these people can't crash our economy again, or they can, and they most certainly can. Dodd Frank is a placebo!

I don't have to pretend anything for either one. Both are large improvements over what we had before. Instead of pointlessly attempting to demonize ideological allies for their imagined lack of purity you should recognize that.

 

[Linux23]

Peeks head in
See the monkeys throwing poop
Sneaks out quietly

 

[Painman]

Peeks head in
See the monkeys throwing poop
Sneaks out quietly

You know you love it.

 

[realibrad]

Election season is annoying.

We have one guy who is pretty much paying for his election all by himself. The crazy shit he says and pushes is his own ideas that he thinks will appeal to his base. No excuse of "he has to say that for the people that are paying for his campaign.

We have a woman who has gotten millions from wall street. People are arguing that that money means nothing to her, which seems stupid because if it means nothing, why take it? For any other situation, millions of dollars given would be a sign that the person would not be biased. But not this year. This year wall street will give her millions because they hate their money and want to make sure someone else has it.

There is no reaching the trump side, but WTF are you all on the left doing? Are you guys trying to play king of the hill on shit mountain? I know Trump is an asshat, but that does not cause a pull to bring the left into that shit.

Hillary has been given millions of dollars. That is not nothing. It does not mean that she is going to give all the money to the banks. It does indicate that she might have some sympathy for the banks though. We want people to be as unbiased as possible, and millions of dollars will tend to sway people.

 

[fskimospy]

Election season is annoying.

We have one guy who is pretty much paying for his election all by himself. The crazy shit he says and pushes is his own ideas that he thinks will appeal to his base. No excuse of "he has to say that for the people that are paying for his campaign.

We have a woman who has gotten millions from wall street. People are arguing that that money means nothing to her, which seems stupid because if it means nothing, why take it? For any other situation, millions of dollars given would be a sign that the person would not be biased. But not this year. This year wall street will give her millions because they hate their money and want to make sure someone else has it.

There is no reaching the trump side, but WTF are you all on the left doing? Are you guys trying to play king of the hill on shit mountain? I know Trump is an asshat, but that does not cause a pull to bring the left into that shit.

Hillary has been given millions of dollars. That is not nothing. It does not mean that she is going to give all the money to the banks. It does indicate that she might have some sympathy for the banks though. We want people to be as unbiased as possible, and millions of dollars will tend to sway people.

Again, you really weren't able to identify anything Obama did for the banks other than not let the economy crater. The standard of 'might have some sympathy' is such a low bar that it basically means donations should be prohibited entirely.

If your issue is that candidates who take donations from people who work in various industries might be biased towards them then you appear to only have two choices: socialized campaign funding or a plutocracy where only the very rich can run for office. If Sanders won the nomination you wild surely see money pour into his campaign, just maybe from a slightly different collection of sources.

Hillary is fine, she's a moderately liberal pragmatist. I see a few of her policies that are objectionable, but on the whole she's a perfectly fine nominee. Basically all the complaints I've seen about her are that she is willing to do a lot to gain power. Gee, a president that does that??? WHY I NEVER.

Sanders is a bit more ideologically compatible, but unfortunately his proposals are comically unrealistic. That means either he doesn't know what he's doing or he's trying to lie to us. Either way no good.

I really don't see what the issue is here. A moderate left candidate, an unrealistic liberal, or a nutcase. If anything this is one of the easiest choices we have ever had for president.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Hear, hear!
What he said!
O Yeah!
and "Drop the mic!"

 

[realibrad]

Again, you really weren't able to identify anything Obama did for the banks other than not let the economy crater. The standard of 'might have some sympathy' is such a low bar that it basically means donations should be prohibited entirely.

No, it does not mean donations should be prohibited. We should also not pretend they mean nothing. If they want to give money and have nothing in return, thats up to them. But, if money is given its because they expect something in return. They may or may not get it, but that is their rational expectation.

Also, how many bankers went to jail for what they did? If I were to do anything close to that kind of deception to customers I would go to jail.

If your issue is that candidates who take donations from people who work in various industries might be biased towards them then you appear to only have two choices: socialized campaign funding or a plutocracy where only the very rich can run for office. If Sanders won the nomination you wild surely see money pour into his campaign, just maybe from a slightly different collection of sources.

No. You can have donations and understand that the person taking them has or will likely be influenced by that money. All donations should be public knowledge. If people dont mind an industry supporting someone thats fine. if they dont like the donations, then they can decide not to vote. We dont need to prohibit anything. The public can decide on what they like.

So all of your conclusion is wrong and does not follow.

Hillary is fine, she's a moderately liberal pragmatist. I see a few of her policies that are objectionable, but on the whole she's a perfectly fine nominee. Basically all the complaints I've seen about her are that she is willing to do a lot to gain power. Gee, a president that does that??? WHY I NEVER.

Pretty much. She is a standard political person. Not extreme and will change her mind with changes in political opinion. I would much rather her try to follow the people's will then push shit through we dont want. Its a double edge sword though, because if we did not do things the public did not like, we would not have had civil rights as soon as we did.

Sanders is a bit more ideologically compatible, but unfortunately his proposals are comically unrealistic. That means either he doesn't know what he's doing or he's trying to lie to us. Either way no good.

100% agree.

I really don't see what the issue is here. A moderate left candidate, an unrealistic liberal, or a nutcase. If anything this is one of the easiest choices we have ever had for president.

None of that has anything to do with the idea that giving a person running for office money can likely carry the implicit understanding of influence. Does not make her corrupt or mean she cant do a good job but it should be looked at as possible influence.

What I take issue with is that people are pretending like he donations mean nothing. There is a reason we dont allow donations to political figures in many other areas, and its because corruption can be hard to spot. We err on the side of caution because of that. Campaigns we allow because they dont have power yet, but nobody thinks that politics and private interests are disconnected.

I think its dumb to argue that the donations mean nothing. I also think its stupid to argue that she is an arm of the banks too.

 

[dank69]

Oh yeah, like there's gonna be a 'paper trail' here.

Hillary: Hey guys! Cum give me money for my campaign!
Evil rich white guys: Ummm, ok. And what's in it for us?
Hillary: Nudge nudge, wink wink.
Evil rich white guys: Perfect! Just sign right here, babe!
Hillary: Sure!!!!!!

You really are a special kind of stupid. You and Dank.

I've known for years that the rep establishment is irredeemably corrupt and incompetent, but you and your buddy Dank actually still think your precious dems defecate doughnuts.

That's pretty convenient since now you can never be proven wrong. If there is zero evidence it's all because of a cover-up. Way to maintain that bubble.