SEN Rand Paul wins CPAC Straw Poll

[nextJin]

Congrats to Senator Paul!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/16/rand-paul-washington-times-cpac-2013-straw-poll/

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Wow, just like his dear ole Dad. Funny how that didn't add up to a hill of beans in the real world.

 

[nextJin]

Wow, just like his dear ole Dad. Funny how that didn't add up to a hill of beans in the real world.

Rand =/= Ron, not by a long shot. Rand brings the conservatives, teapartiers, libertarians and independants without the batshit crazies like his father

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If Sarah Palin would just shut up.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Rand =/= Ron, not by a long shot. Rand brings the conservatives, teapartiers, libertarians and independants without the batshit crazies like his father

Where else would the crazies go?

 

[nextJin]

Where else would the crazies go?

Back in their hole? Rand doesn't share the same foriegn policy views as his father and doesn't go around talking about the end of days and FED/Gold.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't think Rand would be where he is now if it wasn't for his dear ole Dad Ron.

 

[ichy]

Some of Ron Paul's foreign policy views (like that we had no business being in Iraq) made an awful lot of sense.

 

[Incorruptible]

Congratulations to Senator Rand Paul. He is a true American patriot and its sad we dont have more politicians like him.

 

[nextJin]

Some of Ron Paul's foreign policy views (like that we had no business being in Iraq) made an awful lot of sense.

I agree but at the time of his rise, the Republican party was still dominated by neocons.

 

[TallBill]

Will be interesting to watch to see how the republican party develops. I've wanted to back them for so long but they just blow it on too many points.

 

[nextJin]

I don't think Rand would be where he is now if it wasn't for his dear ole Dad Ron.

I agree, and to be honest I am surprised any traditional Republicans are letting him get to where he is. I thought he would amount to what his dad did which is basically nothing politically.

 

[nextJin]

Will be interesting to watch to see how the republican party develops. I've wanted to back them for so long but they just blow it on too many points.

I thought it was interesting that the top 2 in the poll were freshmen teaparty members (around 50%).

 

[TallBill]

I thought it was interesting that the top 2 in the poll were freshmen teaparty members (around 50%).

Its a good thing even if the two of them never really amount to anything. Although I can't see that happening.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I agree, and to be honest I am surprised any traditional Republicans are letting him get to where he is. I thought he would amount to what his dad did which is basically nothing politically.

If you think about it we wouldn't have had any Kennedys if it I weren't for rum running during prohibition. Fathers help their kids in strange ways sometimes.

 

[Moonbeam]

If you think about it we wouldn't have had any Kennedys if it I weren't for rum running during prohibition. Fathers help their kids in strange ways sometimes.

Yup, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for my father.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yup, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for my father.

Is that how it works?

 

[Socio]

I think this is the straw poll that Jeb said he did not want his name to be listed in, guess he did not want to be embarrassed.

 

[LumbergTech]

Rand =/= Ron, not by a long shot. Rand brings the conservatives, teapartiers, libertarians and independants without the batshit crazies like his father

keep telling yourself that, we all know hes a chip off the old block

 

[nextJin]

keep telling yourself that, we all know hes a chip off the old block

Have you ever been to the ronpaulforums? The majority of the more extreme RP people hate him along with major backers because of his more moderate views. If you are not a Liberty Movement or Tea Party insider looking from the outside I guess you could say they are the same because they have the same last name. You'd be wrong of course but to each his own.

It was readily apparent during the past GOP primaries when the two did their few joint interviews, so much so that after the one before the IOWA caucus Rand would no longer accept joint interviews. During the taping Ron would get asked questions about FP and Rand would immediately refute it and both men would become uncomfortable (more so on Rands part) from being at odds when Rand would speak on his dads behalf and giving him his endorsement.

 

[irishScott]

Rand =/= Ron, not by a long shot. Rand brings the conservatives, teapartiers, libertarians and independants without the batshit crazies like his father

Yeah, keep dreaming.

 

[nextJin]

Yeah, keep dreaming.

Missed the post above yours did we?

 

[Anarchist420]

I guess the real question is "will Rand Paul be the Harding to Obama's Wilson?"

Maybe I'm overly optimistic to even be asking that.

 

[irishScott]

Missed the post above yours did we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul#Political_positions

Paul is opposed to abortion and supports a Human Life Amendment and a Life at Conception Act.[136][137][138] He does not support abortion in cases of rape, incest, or if there are concerns with the life of the mother.[139]

So even if the mother is young and will likely die in childbirth, Rand doesn't think there should be an abortion.

Paul supports returning control of education to local communities and parents and thus eliminating the federal Department of Education, but he says that some functions of the Department of Education, such as disbursing student loans and Pell Grants, should be transferred to other departments instead of being eliminated.

And he wants to strip the Department of Education. How nice.


I'll admit that he has fewer crazy points than his dad, but I wouldn't vote for him on the abortion issue alone. Anyone who says a raped 14 year old should be forced to risk her life carrying to term is a sociopath and not someone I want in office.

 

[trenchfoot]

I thought it was interesting that the top 2 in the poll were freshmen teaparty members (around 50%).

Unless the Repub party elders change their tune and back off from going further right of which their top two poll takers imply, this is going to be the main reason why the Repubs are going to lose even more seats in the next two elections.

I understand that to win in the Repub primaries, the candidates have to pander to their rabid nutjob base with far right wing rhetoric, which just about kills their chances to win close races in the generals like the last elections proved out. Tough nut to crack because it seems the Repub leadership cannot find a way out of this suicidal loop the party has created for itself.

Insisting that their ideology is chiseled in stone while also insisting that the only thing they did wrong was the way the message got delivered may hold some truth. And the truth of the matter is that the only way that message can change is by being more secretive, more clever, more deceptive, more disingenuous and more propagandistic because their ideology itself cannot change and is in conflict with the fast changing times we now live in. In this case, staying the course means being left behind.

The only way I can see the nation unifying behind the Repubs in the near future is for them to somehow retake the gov't with widespread gerrymandering so they can start more wars.