Sen. Bunning (R): Tough sh*t unemployed.

[Zebo]

I don't really see a fundamental problem with thinking that this bill should somehow actually be paid for.

the problem is that benefits, once given by people who are only in power as long as they're popular, can't really be taken away. where does it end, perpetual unemployment benefits?

Why does he take this particular time in history to bolster his conservative ideals? With some of the most hurting people in America? I would have been happier with him if he had tried to stop the war bills, or the "bank bailout" bills, or stimulus bills or other unfunded stuff. Senator Bunning has had many opportunities to make a difference and doing so under these circumstances for this relative chump change shows just what a POS he is IMO.

 

[Nemesis 1]

My mistake, you are correct, i didn't read your reply as you intended it.

OTOH, as you wrote it, i doubt anyone else did either, without your knowledge on how it was intended, i doubt that anyone ever could. 😉

But i agree with you, there is no reason to wait for the last chance however, there is no reason to pass on the last chance either.

Motherfucking reading comprehension?

How about you go fuck yourself? I can't read what you don't fucking write you twat!

You say your a leader of fighting men . Doubtful . First your reply here shows you don't have the common sense to be a leader of boy scouts and your reading comprehension stinks . I understood ferns post perfectly . In what points she was saying . You needed a freaken picture to grasp the idea. Grow Up and stop pretending to be a leader of men. When you don't have the tactifulness to lead a Den of brownies.

 

[Sclamoz]

http://bunning.senate.gov/public/in...0-adf5-84d8-5a4668e881c8&Region_id=&Issue_id=

Bunning Supports Extension Of Benefits For Kentucky’s Unemployed

Legislation Includes Bunning Net Operating Losses Amendment

Washington, DC
Wednesday, November 4, 2009

U.S. Senator Jim Bunning today supported The Unemployment Compensation Act of 2009 to extend temporary unemployment benefits. The legislation was approved by a vote of 98 to 0.

"Kentucky has been hit hard by the current economic downturn," said Bunning. "This legislation will lend a helping hand to working families across the Commonwealth who are in search of a job. I am pleased the bill includes my job-creating amendment to allow businesses to carry back Net Operating Losses for five years and receive refunds of their own money today when they need it the most. I also strongly support the extension of the home buyer tax credit in the bill to help stabilize the housing market and the millions of jobs that depend on the housing industry."

The bill would provide up to fourteen additional weeks of federal extended unemployment benefits to workers in all states, with up to an additional six weeks of federal extended benefits for workers in Kentucky and other states with unemployment rates of 8.5 percent or higher.

He seems to have changed his mind on the subject quickly.

 

[Darwin333]

There is already $$ available for this purpose. Use them vs adding in more deficit.
The additional deficit will somehow never get paid down.

The Congress needs to stand up and draw a line in the sand at some point.
To always put off the hard decisions until tommorrow does not bode well.

Such an attitude has dug us deeper into this hole.
Using a crisis as an excuse to sidestep common sense does not help matters at all.

Who are you kidding? We aren't ever going to pay back the debt we already have. You really think anyone is ever going to tell the growing number of seniors on social security or the huge numbers on medicaid/medicare that they are going to have to take a significant cut? Even better, do you think we would actually vote in someone dumb enough to say that during their campaign? Go ahead and hold your breath for that one.

We are going to default on it sooner or later so fuck em. Lets run it up until they finally get smart and cut us off. Dumb asses shouldn't be loaning it to us at this point anyway.

 

[werepossum]

http://bunning.senate.gov/public/in...0-adf5-84d8-5a4668e881c8&Region_id=&Issue_id=

Bunning Supports Extension Of Benefits For Kentucky’s Unemployed

Legislation Includes Bunning Net Operating Losses Amendment

Washington, DC
Wednesday, November 4, 2009

U.S. Senator Jim Bunning today supported The Unemployment Compensation Act of 2009 to extend temporary unemployment benefits. The legislation was approved by a vote of 98 to 0.

"Kentucky has been hit hard by the current economic downturn," said Bunning. "This legislation will lend a helping hand to working families across the Commonwealth who are in search of a job. I am pleased the bill includes my job-creating amendment to allow businesses to carry back Net Operating Losses for five years and receive refunds of their own money today when they need it the most. I also strongly support the extension of the home buyer tax credit in the bill to help stabilize the housing market and the millions of jobs that depend on the housing industry."

The bill would provide up to fourteen additional weeks of federal extended unemployment benefits to workers in all states, with up to an additional six weeks of federal extended benefits for workers in Kentucky and other states with unemployment rates of 8.5 percent or higher.

He seems to have changed his mind on the subject quickly.

He always supported it, just wanted it paid for out of stimulus money. What's funny is that he seems to have been bought with two amendments that actually add to the deficit. If there is any method of paying for it, I would think his own web site would mention it. Still, the bill and these amendments seem to me to be better uses of our dwindling credit than is much of Washington's spending.

 

[EXman]

You'd think that strangling the efforts to build in other economies would go first since every dollar spent in your own economy goes into your own economy but no such luck.

I'm sorry Eagle, you're wrong on this one.

He's not wrong at all.

I was on unempolyment once. And they get a ton more now. Unemployment can be a drug as well. And they didn't pay shit for cobra back in 2000 either. These people don't know how good they have it. Unless you have been unemployed for an extended time I really don't care to here that my opinion is insensitive. I think some people need to man-up and stop trying to pay the bills will pride. Men in our nation have been emasculated and we keep enabling that mentality I cannot do that job I'm to good for that. That is BS.




Is Bunning a fan of paygo? No. Is he a fan of no more debt when we still have "reserves" of "borrowed" cash that isn't doing anything? No again. Man we are paying interest on cash that isn't doing anything. Why can't we use it for this purpose? Really why?

Has he grown a set of nuts since announcing his retirement? Yes.

Do you Libs and many Repubs see that he is trying to curb runaway spending?

 

[zsdersw]

It's clear to me that many of you know exactly what we need to do to fix things, and should be put into power right away, as a monarch, so you can enact your flawless plans for the benefit of us all.

2010: The Year That Armchair Economists and Experts Fixed Everything!!

 

[Fear No Evil]

It's clear to me that many of you know exactly what we need to do to fix things, and should be put into power right away, as a monarch, so you can enact your flawless plans for the benefit of us all.

2010: The Year That Armchair Economists and Experts Fixed Everything!!

Its certainly clear that Obama doesn't know wtf he is doing.. I trust the people over an elitist.

 

[zsdersw]

Its certainly clear that Obama doesn't know wtf he is doing.. I trust the people over an elitist.

That was always one of the Republican/conservative criticisms of Obama when he was running for president; his lack of executive experience. So you trust "the people" to do it better? "The people" is not a group with any executive experience, either.

 

[Cattlegod]

they should make everyone who has taken the extension so far be liable to pay it back with interest once they get a new job.

 

[dmcowen674]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fear No Evil
Its certainly clear that Obama doesn't know wtf he is doing.. I trust the people over an elitist.

That was always one of the Republican/conservative criticisms of Obama when he was running for president; his lack of executive experience. So you trust "the people" to do it better? "The people" is not a group with any executive experience, either.

But it will be such a beautiful thing to watch Republicans especially the ones on here shit and spin when Obama rams the Health Care down their throats 🙂

 

[EagleKeeper]

But it will be such a beautiful thing to watch Republicans especially the ones on here shit and spin when Obama rams the Health Care down their throats 🙂

The Dems tried to ram it once and failed.

What will have changed?

 

[marincounty]

The Dems tried to ram it once and failed.

What will have changed?

The orifice they ram it in?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The orifice they ram it in?

Nah, that probably would have brought more Republican on board. 😉

 

[ayabe]

Its certainly clear that Obama doesn't know wtf he is doing.. I trust the people over an elitist.

Yeah, the Nazi's did too. The meritocracy was replaced by kakistocracy and chicken farmers like Himmler were given way more power than their limited intellects could handle.

Didn't work out for them due to this and other reasons, had WWII not even happened, Nazi Germany would have collapsed on itself due to sheer incompetence.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The Dems tried to ram it once and failed.

What will have changed?

The orifice they ram it in?

Mass made the orifice smaller. The Dems have aptly demonstrated that they can not accurately aim a bill and now the target is smaller. They will need the Republicans to assist in proper alignment of the shaft.

 

[werepossum]

That was always one of the Republican/conservative criticisms of Obama when he was running for president; his lack of executive experience. So you trust "the people" to do it better? "The people" is not a group with any executive experience, either.

Actually many of "the people" do have executive experience and, even more importantly, private sector experience. Companies and organizations all have to be run, after all, and running a company is arguably better qualification for running a country than is teaching people how to sue their landlord or even being one of many voices in the legislative process. But in any case, three hundred million inexperienced people are likely to come up with better answers than one inexperienced person, if only because of the law of averages.

 

[Hacp]

they should make everyone who has taken the extension so far be liable to pay it back with interest once they get a new job.

Wow finally a good idea.

 

[Zorkorist]

We should stop their funding.

-John

 

[Argo]

So can somebody explain something to me. If we're extending unemployment benefits for another month, what happens next? Do we extend it again? If so, why not? What would've changed in another month? Are those unemployed no longer "struggling"

Which brings me to the second point - if we continue giving out unemployment benefits like candy, why would anybody want to work? Free healthcare, unemployment. Heck, throw in free sex and I wouldn't have to ever leave my houlse

 

[Zorkorist]

The Goverment is a bitch to understand, but theoretically, the unemployed are tring to find jobs.

Those on welfare... are a lost cause.

So, we extend Unemployment benefits...

Not too much difference, really.

-John

 

[Jhhnn]

So can somebody explain something to me. If we're extending unemployment benefits for another month, what happens next? Do we extend it again?

If so, why would anybody want to work? Just sit home and collect unemployment.

First off, most people need to work, want to work, to support their self esteem.

Second, unemployment really isn't sufficient to maintain most people's lifestyles, at all, particularly when they've been good little consumers and are up to their eyeballs in payment plans... Most American families actually have negative net worth, owe more than they own, so being unemployed for any length of time at all is very damaging, both short and long term.

It's not like this recovery will return us to previous levels of employment, anyway. There's still more money to be made offshoring than onshoring, and the effects of deficit spending diminish the more of it that's needed, the longer it's applied. That's how the Bush Admin created the illusion of recovery from the tech bust, along with a little help from the FRB and Wall St illusionists... with the creation of massive debt at every level.

 

[Zorkorist]

lol. Jhnn, to paint a rosy picture.

There's your Government.

-John

 

[zsdersw]

Actually many of "the people" do have executive experience and, even more importantly, private sector experience. Companies and organizations all have to be run, after all, and running a company is arguably better qualification for running a country than is teaching people how to sue their landlord or even being one of many voices in the legislative process.

Only a very small and statistically insignificant percentage of "the people" have executive experience in either the public or private sectors.

But in any case, three hundred million inexperienced people are likely to come up with better answers than one inexperienced person, if only because of the law of averages

Non-sequitur. Three-hundred million people aren't going to run anything other than each of their own affairs.. a selected few will be those with power over the affairs of others, and therein is the problem.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Of course you don't see a good reason, it doesn't affect you and that is all you will ever care about.

Any proud and functional nation takes care of it's own citisens. That USED to be something the US adhered to.

Do you understand basic economics? You can't keep borrowing money. At some point you have to pay the interest and principle back. It's time to stop paying people to be lazy and force them to get back to work.

I get at least 15 calls from recruiters a week looking to fill jobs. Jobs are out there, it's just now we have created a larger population that is willing to be subserviant and dependant on government handouts.