Seminole Supervisor of Elections says to Democrats, "Go Fly A Kite" ?

[ride525]

The following is from a story here

<< In a deposition last week, Goard said she had rejected ballot requests that did not contain voter ID numbers as required by Florida law, but then approved a telephoned GOP plea to let Republican workers add those numbers to Republican applications. Goard said her office sorted out the Republican rejects so they could be revised, but left rejected Democratic and independent applications sitting in a discard box.


Goard acknowledged getting a complaint from Seminole Democratic Party Chairman Bob Poe, who called around Oct. 30. She said she couldn't remember what she told him. Poe has told reporters she told him to &quot;go fly a kite.&quot; >>

Interesting impartial attitude here in Seminole County, huh? We'll see how this plays out in court on Wednesday.....

 

[ride525]

fixed link.

 

[dawheat]

yawn

 

[veryape]

<< yawn >>



Grow up,at least if your going to argue,finish a sentence.

I read that they threw the dem ballots out but did not know she blatently refused the dems the equal right to &quot;tamper with them&quot;. I hope the courts come down hard on the reps. That would be a beautiful end to all of this. Maybe the person who got more votes in both Florida and America will actually get elected.

 

[dawheat]

I suppose the subtelty of the gesture escaped you. So for those who need it spelled out for them, if this is a valid incident, I'm more than sure that the Veep's lawyers will spell it out ad nauseum to the court as well as do their duty to make sure every citizen from shore to shining shore knows about it. As much as an insight of your caliber will be of service to them, I'm sure they'll be able to manage.

<edit> Sarcasm is said to be the tool of a weak mind so I suppose I shouldn't lay it as thick<end edit>

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Maybe the person who got more votes in both Florida and America will actually get elected.

Gore's lead in the popular vote is well within the margin of error, plus consider that two million votes nationwide were thrown out.

 

[MrPALCO]

No one ever said that politics would not enter into the &quot;vote counting process&quot;, while that is regrettable, it is the method that Liberals have forced upon us.

The difference now is, that Conservatives have now moved into positions typically held, by Liberals, whose sole purpose in life, was to use Government to strip resources from the real producers.

Conservatives are beginning to wake up, as we realize that we have been allowing the &quot;fox to rule the henhouse&quot;.

Never again.

 

[cxim]

QUOTE << Poe has told reporters she told him to &quot;go fly a kite.&quot; >>

I have it on good authority, that this is a misquote... She actually told him to 'go pound salt up his *** ' &amp; then to 'eat **** &amp; die'

These are the standard authorized Republican replies to all Democrat inquiries, as stated on page 102 of the Republican Handbook for 2000.

 

[ToBeMe]

Well, from all the reading I've done, this case has not got a very good chance of success and even the Dems. know it. Let's just say for instance it does get through the Circuit Court.....it has to do so before the 12th or, it is essentially meaningless, even Boies said that yesterday. I doubt this will have any meaning in the outcome, and, if it does make it through Circuit, Bush has already said he is ready to challenge all votes cast by Felons in FL which will in effect nullify all the votes lost in a Gore favored outcome here. This wouldn't be like the DC case the other year either according to law experts, FL does have laws on record prohibiting Felons from voting so this case actually has an even better chance than the Dems. case. At any rate, I suspect this will be a none factor for either side.

 

[Czar]

If this is true, wouldnt this count as &quot;cheating&quot; and should there be a revote by now !!!

 

[ToBeMe]

Both these happen every election, in every state. It just so happens that this year, because of the tightness of the race, every detail is being found in FL because it was the deciding state. Seems as though if every mistake, no matter how large or small was brought forward in every state.......we would have lawsuits galore.

 

[fdiskboy]

Unfortunately for the Dems, the only relief possible in this case is to throw out ALL absentee ballots from that county. No judge is going to allow that, it is too extreme.

This is the Hail Mary against a Prevent defense at the end of regulation. It's got about a .01% chance of actually working.

 

[Format C:]

<< In Seminole County, the Democrats included voter ID numbers on absentee ballot requests they printed up and sent to their supporters, but a software glitch omitted that information from 80 percent of the forms the GOP mailed. >>



And the problem is?

 

[Czar]

<< Goard said her office sorted out the Republican rejects so they could be revised, but left rejected Democratic and independent applications sitting in a discard box. >>



This is the problem, this is called cheating. This alone should be a reason enough for a revote.

 

[ToBeMe]

The Court has already ruled....No Recount.....and, the Reps. requested to enter the omitted numbers and were allowed to do so by Goard, according to the articles I have seen and what has been broadcasted, the Dems. also knew of this but didn't think it would cause a problem with the ballots so they didn't enter the numbers. In the scenario laid out by the suit, it seems ALL absentee ballots marked by canvassing boards/election judges nation or at least state wide would have to be disallowed because other counties have also said that it is common practice to fill in missing nominal data on absentee ballots. Who knows! It does though seem that not many people are giving this much of a chance, even CNN commentators called it a non-factor suit.

 

[ride525]

<< Unfortunately for the Dems, the only relief possible in this case is to throw out ALL absentee ballots from that county. No judge is going to allow that, it is too extreme. >>



I think recently all the absentee ballots WERE thrown out in a Florida election...

 

[ride525]

<< In the scenario laid out by the suit, it seems ALL absentee ballots marked by canvassing boards/election judges nation or at least state wide would have to be disallowed because other counties have also said that it is common practice to fill in missing nominal data on absentee ballots. >>



Actually this a Florida law, so only applies to Florida. There is a second county in Florida with a similar suit from doing the same thing in this election.

 

[Format C:]

<< << Goard said her office sorted out the Republican rejects so they could be revised, but left rejected Democratic and independent applications sitting in a discard box. >>



This is the problem, this is called cheating >>

How do you figure that? Should she have taken the Democratic and independent applications OUT of the box too? Would that have made it fair? Or perhaps she should have allowed the Republican party to do the sorting? Would that have made it fair? I fail to see any logic whatsoever to your statement. Try again.

 

[Futuramatic]

Nope, sorry. The Democrats had the same chance. They were too lazy to do it though.

 

[I'm Typing]

Format: The point is, she should not have separated out ANY of the applications. Secondly, she should not have allowed two republiKlan operatives to work for a week in her office, &quot;altering&quot; applications so that they would pass. Since nobody monitored these people, who knows what else they did with the absentee applications.

The last time something similar to this happened was in 1998, in the Miami Mayoral race. The judge ruled that ALL of the absentee ballots had to be thrown out, and the Mayoral race was overturned. If the same thing happens here, Gore becomes president, because the absentee ballots ran 10,000 to 5,000 in favor of Bush.

The reason why the Dems (Al Gore's lawyers) are leaving this one alone is because &quot;they&quot; did not bring this up in the first place; they are willing to sit back and let the courts decide this issue.

 

[Tiger]

I'm Typing,


&quot;Since nobody monitored these people, who knows what else they did with the absentee applications.&quot;

Have you seen one of these applications? The only things the voter does is sign and date them and write down the last four digits of their SSN. Since the republican &quot;operatives&quot; were'nt the ones who sorted the faulty applications you have to assume that the only thing wrong with those apps was the VIN.

It's a purely administrative snafu, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[cxim]

The reason the AB ballots were discarded in the MIAMI Mayors race was that several thousand of the ballots were fradulent. Many dead democrats voted in that election by Absentee Ballot.

There is no allegation, even by the democrats, that any of the AB voters in the presidential race were fradulent.

 

[Czar]

But if the ballots are not valid they should not count, they should not be tempered with because whats on them is what the person who voted did, that was his problem to screw it up, no one should correct it.

When a ballot is in the box it should not be tempered with, final.

 

[Tiger]

We are talking about absentee ballot applications, not the actual absentee ballot.
If your going to post in these threads please try to keep up.

 

[Czar]

ahhh... gotcha