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Semi-naked gunman Travis Reinking kills 4 at TN Waffle House

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It's now being reported that the suspected shooter was arrested last year trying to break onto the White House lawn. Illinois revoked his license to own firearms (whatever the fvck that is), and gave his guns to his father who promised not to give them back. The father has said he returned the guns to his son and among them was an AR15.
 
IJTSSG said:
It's now being reported that the suspected shooter was arrested last year trying to break onto the White House lawn. Illinois revoked his license to own firearms (whatever the fvck that is), and gave his guns to his father who promised not to give them back. The father has said he returned the guns to his son and among them was an AR15.
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Stupid father. Arrest him for this breach! I wonder how he feels now?

There was plenty of warning signs the kid was cracked.
 
compuwiz1 said:
Stupid father. Arrest him for this breach! I wonder how he feels now?

There was plenty of warning signs the kid was cracked.
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If he violated the law he ought to be held accountable. Regardless he will likely be ruined by the civil suits he will earn by his actions. Accountability will be had.
 
FerrelGeek said:
Yet another case of a deranged non conservative killing people. My heart goes out the the victim's families.
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Link? Or is this another case of you talking about stuff you know nothing about?

A multiple gun owner who works construction and refers to himself as a 'sovereign citizen.' Yeah that just reeks of a dirty liberal, doesn't it?
 
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He's being labeled as part of the "sovereign citizen movement" which is a bit of a lunatic fringe that basically makes up their own interpretation of laws. They are like libertarians on crack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

It's a fairly new thing, started in the 1970's with some Christian fringe groups trying to cheat their way through tax laws. It took off from there and is sprinkled with domestic terrorists, drug runners, ranchers, ect.
 
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He's being labeled as part of the "sovereign citizen movement" which is a bit of a lunatic fringe that basically makes up their own interpretation of laws. They are like libertarians on crack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

It's a fairly new thing, started in the 1970's with some Christian fringe groups trying to cheat their way through tax laws. It took off from there and is sprinkled with domestic terrorists, drug runners, ranchers, ect.
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Makes sense I guess. The FBI considers those loons domestic terrorists. Ferrel Geek has a history of trying to downplay and dismiss the surge in right wing terrorism in this country, while trying to portray liberals as the true source of violence. Mind your feet guys, someone's got water to carry and they're not very good at it.
 
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IJTSSG said:
It's now being reported that the suspected shooter was arrested last year trying to break onto the White House lawn. Illinois revoked his license to own firearms (whatever the fvck that is), and gave his guns to his father who promised not to give them back. The father has said he returned the guns to his son and among them was an AR15.
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You also missed the part where he has claimed that Taylor Swift was stalking him.
Dude was/is obviously crazy.

Please note: not a single tweet yet from the POTUS
 
Bird222 said:
Another successful 'gun-free zone'.🙄
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Ah yes, everyone's favorite "if only everyone had guns this wouldn't have happened" lie. I refuse to live in a world where paranoia and the threat of violence are the main deterrents to shootings. Many, many other countries have much lower gun ownership rates and dramatically lower shooting rates. I'd rather go their route than give into the depravity and gun fetishism that you want.
 
Commodus said:
Ah yes, everyone's favorite "if only everyone had guns this wouldn't have happened" lie. I refuse to live in a world where paranoia and the threat of violence are the main deterrents to shootings. Many, many other countries have much lower gun ownership rates and dramatically lower shooting rates. I'd rather go their route than give into the depravity and gun fetishism that you want.
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I didn't say that, but being a sitting duck is not a good position to be in.
 
I used to live in the midwest and watched more than one client become a "sovereign citizen" back in the eighties. It's sad watching someone you know descend to that level of mental illness.

I don't envy at all the regular cops in the areas where they are. Over the years they have gunned down a lot of cops because of traffic stops or the like.

BTW does Waffle House have real maple syrup or were you joking? I've only been there once but the so-called syrup was on par with the gunk McDonalds and Burger King serve.
 
Bird222 said:
I didn't say that, but being a sitting duck is not a good position to be in.
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Sure you did, you just used roundabout language to express it. You thought that having someone else with a gun there would likely have prevented it or cut it short; ergo, you believe the solution is to arm more people.

Instead of treating people as "sitting ducks" because they don't have guns, how about we create a culture where having a gun isn't seen as important? Plenty of other countries have managed that. Are you saying the US is too warlike and incompetent to move away from a gun-obsessed culture?
 
kage69 said:
Link? Or is this another case of you talking about stuff you know nothing about?

A multiple gun owner who works construction and refers to himself as a 'sovereign citizen.' Yeah that just reeks of a dirty liberal, doesn't it?
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I think he read the part about "attempted to climb the whitehouse lawn last year" and interpreted that as "well: must be a loony lefty!"

Yes, because only "loony lefties" have any reason to be angry at the Trump. Regardless that this crazy person is a fundamental ultra libertarian, Ferrel Geek and others will forever believe that he was a loony lefty, because that false narrative of the "creeping threat of dangerous liberalism!" must be preserved!

Never-mind that right wing domestic terrorists represent some 75% + of violent terrorist acts in this country since the 80s. Never mind the real numbers. Our own personal narrative is what matters...kind of like that "personal relationship with God." It is whatever I want it to be--therefore it is true.
 
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