Self-driving discussion thread (2026)

[Kaido]

Great video on the upcoming Rivian R2:

* $2,500 system (Tesla charges $8,000 & Lifetime is being retired this week in favor of a $99/mo subscription service)
* 11 cameras (65 megapixels total)
* 5 radars (including a front imaging radar)
* LIDAR (top of windshield)
* In-house compute platform
* Self-driving computer developed in-house by Rivian (800 TOPS platform with two of them for 1,600 TOPS)

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Tesla has the best platform on the planet, but they lack LIDAR, which I think will hold them back.

 

[Kaido]

Latest Tesla FSD with Grok:

Voice command demonstration, works better than Siri lol

 

[_Rick_]

I'm disappointed that MB has no direct successor to their L3 system available.
Would have been the time to raise the bar with even more L3 ODD, or even a limited L4, instead it's back to zero autonomy.

On the upside, Waymo is finally starting to break out of regional deployment and going (sort-of) global. I guess it will be restricted to high-value locations for quite a while. I wonder if they can get a leg into Asia next.

In the meantime, I remain unimpressed by these half-assed sorta-convenience functions, which are just going to stress you out, as you constantly anticipate them trying to kill you.