Seinfeld in HD?

[geno]

This show ended in 98. I turned on TBS HD expecting the show to come on in 4:3 and it's actually broadcasting in HD...widescreen and all. Did they film the later seasons in HD in anticipation of the HD movement or what?

 

[OCGuy]

Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: geno
This show ended in 98. I turned on TBS HD expecting the show to come on in 4:3 and it's actually broadcasting in HD...widescreen and all. Did they film the later seasons in HD in anticipation of the HD movement or what?

Look closely at the proportions of the body and objects on screen.

TBS HD uses stretching on most originally 4:3 broadcasts to achieve a false 16:9 image.

At least, I'm pretty sure TBS is the one infamous for that terrible terrible practice.

 

[Lean L]

it would not have been far fetched for fox to have recorded in higher quality tapes even back then. If you look at seinfeld on fox the credits are in HD places, ie it was redone with the original tapes.

 

[Krynj]

80gb worth of x264 rips FTW.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

OMG how fat is Newman?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: iamanidiot
it would not have been far fetched for fox to have recorded in higher quality tapes even back then. If you look at seinfeld on fox the credits are in HD places, ie it was redone with the original tapes.

You mean NBC?

 

[SKORPI0]

Originally posted by: destrekor

At least, I'm pretty sure TBS is the one infamous for that terrible terrible practice.

AMC HD & TNT HD are also known for this.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: geno
This show ended in 98. I turned on TBS HD expecting the show to come on in 4:3 and it's actually broadcasting in HD...widescreen and all. Did they film the later seasons in HD in anticipation of the HD movement or what?

Film has more than enough resolution for HD, and according to wikipedia Seinfled was shot on 35mm film and edited onto video tape. I don't know if the episodes on TBS are actually HD or just upconverted SD; creating HD versions may require re-editing, and I have no idea if they've done anything like that.

Many shows are shot straight to video tape, and would not be able to be converted to true HD.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: geno
This show ended in 98. I turned on TBS HD expecting the show to come on in 4:3 and it's actually broadcasting in HD...widescreen and all. Did they film the later seasons in HD in anticipation of the HD movement or what?

Film has more than enough resolution for HD, and according to wikipedia Seinfled was shot on 35mm film and edited onto video tape. I don't know if the episodes on TBS are actually HD or just upconverted SD; creating HD versions may require re-editing, and I have no idea if they've done anything like that.

Many shows are shot straight to video tape, and would not be able to be converted to true HD.

however, film is a 4:3 format, and tv shows were recorded full frame 35mm, i.e. 4:3 format.
Either the shows filmed in 4:3 are being cropped to 16:9 (which in many scenes would look ridiculous), or they are taking 4:3 material and using zoom&stretch.

I believe some of the networks will take 4:3 material, and stretch with a very weird style, so that the center of the image isn't stretched, but the sides are of scene are stretched, which lends a very very odd level of perception to the image.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: destrekor

however, film is a 4:3 format, and tv shows were recorded full frame 35mm, i.e. 4:3 format.
Either the shows filmed in 4:3 are being cropped to 16:9 (which in many scenes would look ridiculous), or they are taking 4:3 material and using zoom&stretch.

I believe some of the networks will take 4:3 material, and stretch with a very weird style, so that the center of the image isn't stretched, but the sides are of scene are stretched, which lends a very very odd level of perception to the image.

The way these shots are framed, I seriously doubt the original format was 4:3, there's tons of room on either side of every single shot... And the resolution / clarity definitely doesn't belie any stretching method. This isn't the same kind of treatment they give Family Guy, I can tell the difference.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

:laugh:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention anyof this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention of this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

Mention what?

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: destrekor

however, film is a 4:3 format, and tv shows were recorded full frame 35mm, i.e. 4:3 format.
Either the shows filmed in 4:3 are being cropped to 16:9 (which in many scenes would look ridiculous), or they are taking 4:3 material and using zoom&stretch.

I believe some of the networks will take 4:3 material, and stretch with a very weird style, so that the center of the image isn't stretched, but the sides are of scene are stretched, which lends a very very odd level of perception to the image.

The way these shots are framed, I seriously doubt the original format was 4:3, there's tons of room on either side of every single shot... And the resolution / clarity definitely doesn't belie any stretching method. This isn't the same kind of treatment they give Family Guy, I can tell the difference.

From the times I've watched, the 4:3 image is zoomed in to fill a 16:9 screen, thus removing portions of the top and bottom of the original 4:3 frame. Look at the top and bottom of the frame. There's not much room.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention of this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

Mention what?

:laugh:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention of this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

Mention what?

:laugh:

doh, missing word, 4tl fml

 

[herkulease]

its not really stretched out stuff tbs/tnt usually does.

Sony went back and remastered these. you can read about it here http://www.broadcastingcable.c...ook_Like_Something.php

 

[effowe]

As mentioned, these were recently remastered. I also saw it on TBS the other day, and it was definitely HD. No stretching, I believe it was just cropped to 16:9.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: sandorski

doh, missing word, 4tl fml

Oh, I thought he said that because his name is Neuman.



Now I'm confused.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: sandorski

doh, missing word, 4tl fml

Oh, I thought he said that because his name is Neuman.



Now I'm confused.

Your body is going through some changes, it is OK. We all went through it.
:laugh: 😛




...buuuut you know what? Now that you mention it, I'll bet you're right. It was only a strange coincidence that I missed a key word. Today is just not my day, it seems. :laugh:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention of this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

Mention what?

:Q:Q Nothing, nothing....😱 Jerry, help

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention of this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

Mention what?

:Q:Q Nothing, nothing....😱 Jerry, help

I was looking forward to a "Heeelloooo, Newman."

😀

\and OCguy wins a free internet... 🙂

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: OCguy
Whats the deal with HD? Who aaawww these people?

It's a conspiracy Jerry. They know that if you wear a Tin Foil hat, all TV appears in HD. It goes right to the top Jerry, to the top!!

Don't mention of this to Newman, I'll deny it all.

Mention what?

:Q:Q Nothing, nothing....😱 Jerry, help

I was looking forward to a "Heeelloooo, Newman."

😀

\and OCguy wins a free internet... 🙂

:laugh:

 

[slayer202]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: geno
This show ended in 98. I turned on TBS HD expecting the show to come on in 4:3 and it's actually broadcasting in HD...widescreen and all. Did they film the later seasons in HD in anticipation of the HD movement or what?

Look closely at the proportions of the body and objects on screen.

TBS HD uses stretching on most originally 4:3 broadcasts to achieve a false 16:9 image.

At least, I'm pretty sure TBS is the one infamous for that terrible terrible practice.

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