Seemingly Impossible temps on Q6600

twjr

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So I have just installed my new Q6600 and thought I would give it a run at stock before I went and overclocked it. I am currently stressing it will with P95 and cores 0, 1 and 3 are hovering between 25 and 28 celcius and core 2 is at an improbable 20-21. At idle the three similar cores are around 14-16 and the lower one between 8-10. I am using the latest version of Core-temp to read the temps and have a lapped IHS and TRUE. the ambient temps in my comp room are a balmy 12.5 C. Though I have got a good cooler this doesn't mean that it can cool below ambient so what is going on?
 

twjr

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Originally posted by: twjr
Originally posted by: graysky
What does HWMon read?

HWMon?


Yes, HWMonitor. Get it!:thumbsup:

Cheers for the link. Great bit of software.

It is still giving me similar temps to Core Temp.

Perhaps it is just that cold in my room.

Also what sort of vDroop do you get on your EP35C-DS3R? My P35C-DS3R rev1.0 is up to 0.07v which is on the high end of things from what i've read.
 

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Originally posted by: twjr
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Originally posted by: twjr
Originally posted by: graysky
What does HWMon read?

HWMon?


Yes, HWMonitor. Get it!:thumbsup:

Cheers for the link. Great bit of software.

It is still giving me similar temps to Core Temp.

Perhaps it is just that cold in my room.

Also what sort of vDroop do you get on your EP35C-DS3R? My P35C-DS3R rev1.0 is up to 0.07v which is on the high end of things from what i've read.


Your welcome! As for vDroop on my board, that seems about what I have also. As for your temps, Hmmm... My temps, lower level, where my rigs are... ambient temps are about 14c - 18c. So, my (Cpu) temps at idol are ( real temp readings ) 26-25-20-20. <---about 68c - 75c from tjmax. Just remember that coretemp and realtemp have different tjmax readings so, coretemp will read about 5-10c higher. I am thinking that you probably have a stuck cap on your readings. Get it to a load and watch the temps. This is where you really should be watching.

 

twjr

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Originally posted by: twjr
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Originally posted by: twjr
Originally posted by: graysky
What does HWMon read?

HWMon?


Yes, HWMonitor. Get it!:thumbsup:

Cheers for the link. Great bit of software.

It is still giving me similar temps to Core Temp.

Perhaps it is just that cold in my room.

Also what sort of vDroop do you get on your EP35C-DS3R? My P35C-DS3R rev1.0 is up to 0.07v which is on the high end of things from what i've read.


Your welcome! As for vDroop on my board, that seems about what I have also. As for your temps, Hmmm... My temps, lower level, where my rigs are... ambient temps are about 14c - 18c. So, my (Cpu) temps at idol are ( real temp readings ) 26-25-20-20. <---about 68c - 75c from tjmax. Just remember that coretemp and realtemp have different tjmax readings so, coretemp will read about 5-10c higher. I am thinking that you probably have a stuck cap on your readings. Get it to a load and watch the temps. This is where you really should be watching.

Even loaded I am still only getting to around 30c. I guess I shouldn't be complaining but the crazy thing is that this chip is running cooler than the E4300 i swapped out.
 

Drsignguy

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Think you can put a load on that bad boy and send a pic or 2? I sure would love to see 30c temps with a load. If so, Then you got it going on?
 

twjr

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I'll try do that when i get home from Uni later on tonight. Whats the easiest way to do pics? Currently I have it set to a slight oc of 3.0 ghz @ 1.3v BIOS, which seems stable. I did chuck it up to 3.6 @ 1.45v BIOS but with vDroop and vDrop taking it down to 1.36ish in Windows under load it wasn't prime stable. Need a board with more stable voltage supply I think.
 

Drsignguy

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How many sticks of ram you using and MB amount? As for pics, I use imageshack for uploading.
 

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Are you wearing full warm clothing at home? If yes, then those temps are plausible :D

Have you compared your temps to the one in BIOS? At least BIOS temp is using an external temp probe, so logically the real core temp should be higher than the one in BIOS.
 

twjr

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
How many sticks of ram you using and MB amount? As for pics, I use imageshack for uploading.

I'm using 4x1gb sticks of Supertalent.

Ok will have a go with imageshack tonight.

With my current oc of 3.0 @ 1.248v load (1.3 Bios) I am getting temps up to 37c on my warmest cores, which is still a lot cooler than my E4300 was at the same speed around 50c. The increase in temps today could be most likely the OC but I did put my case door back on and it is marginally warmer today.
 

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Originally posted by: ShadowFlareX
Are you wearing full warm clothing at home? If yes, then those temps are plausible :D

Have you compared your temps to the one in BIOS? At least BIOS temp is using an external temp probe, so logically the real core temp should be higher than the one in BIOS.

Full warm clothing....? Meh. They breed us tough here in New Zealand.

Actually the Bios is reading around 14c at idle which is around what CoreTemp was showing.
 

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12.5C = balmy? Just a reality check here - do you actually use Celsius on a day to day basis or is that a conversion you made?
 

twjr

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Originally posted by: Nathelion
12.5C = balmy? Just a reality check here - do you actually use Celsius on a day to day basis or is that a conversion you made?

Perhaps I should have used an emoticon. Except they don't have one that is shivering and blue. I really do live in a house where the ambient temperatures approach 10c. Celcius are the only temperature measurements i understand, you Americans and Farenheit just confuse me. I guess homour doesn't really get conveyed so well over the internet.
 

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Originally posted by: twjr
So I have just installed my new Q6600 and thought I would give it a run at stock before I went and overclocked it. I am currently stressing it will with P95 and cores 0, 1 and 3 are hovering between 25 and 28 celcius and core 2 is at an improbable 20-21. At idle the three similar cores are around 14-16 and the lower one between 8-10. I am using the latest version of Core-temp to read the temps and have a lapped IHS and TRUE. the ambient temps in my comp room are a balmy 12.5 C. Though I have got a good cooler this doesn't mean that it can cool below ambient so what is going on?

whow..i need that one...you take paypal? :)

Add: 12.5 in the room......you know that 12.5 deg C is EXTREMELY cold? Normal room temp is 20C (70 deg F)...12 deg celsius is a chilly day outside in February, its not freezing..but still VERY cold. I highly doubt thats your room temp.

Edit2: You say at idle your one core is at 8 :) This is just 4 deg over when water's freezing..its impossible you have that temp on your core, even if you would run this in an igloo in antarctica.

Edit3: You "really" have 10ish deg C ambient in your house?
 

twjr

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Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: twjr
So I have just installed my new Q6600 and thought I would give it a run at stock before I went and overclocked it. I am currently stressing it will with P95 and cores 0, 1 and 3 are hovering between 25 and 28 celcius and core 2 is at an improbable 20-21. At idle the three similar cores are around 14-16 and the lower one between 8-10. I am using the latest version of Core-temp to read the temps and have a lapped IHS and TRUE. the ambient temps in my comp room are a balmy 12.5 C. Though I have got a good cooler this doesn't mean that it can cool below ambient so what is going on?

whow..i need that one...you take paypal? :)

Add: 12.5 in the room......you know that 12.5 deg C is EXTREMELY cold? Normal room temp is 20C (70 deg F)...12 deg celsius is a chilly day outside in February, its not freezing..but still VERY cold. I highly doubt thats your room temp.

Edit2: You say at idle your one core is at 8 :) This is just 4 deg over when water's freezing..its impossible you have that temp on your core, even if you would run this in an igloo in antarctica.

Edit3: You "really" have 10ish deg C ambient in your house?

Lets get some stuff straight. Perhaps I should have just said a usual post about is Core Temp reliable, but having used it before and know that it is, I guess that I didn't need that reassurance.

Anyway I know more about Celcius than most on this forum. I live in New Zealand which uses the metric system, like I said I don't know how to use Farenhiet from the arse end of a sheep (or maybe being from New Zealand I do know what to do with the arse end of a sheep ;)).

Honestly I am not kidding about the ambient temperatures. I live in what is politely called the 'student slum' of Dunedin which is one of the most southerly cities of New Zealand, in itself quite a southerly country. To get an idea of the living conditions it is common place for people to put food in their fridges to defrost during winter.

And about that rogue core. I don't trust it either. Which I guess brings me back to the starting point. Should I trust Core Temp?
 

Drsignguy

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Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: twjr
So I have just installed my new Q6600 and thought I would give it a run at stock before I went and overclocked it. I am currently stressing it will with P95 and cores 0, 1 and 3 are hovering between 25 and 28 celcius and core 2 is at an improbable 20-21. At idle the three similar cores are around 14-16 and the lower one between 8-10. I am using the latest version of Core-temp to read the temps and have a lapped IHS and TRUE. the ambient temps in my comp room are a balmy 12.5 C. Though I have got a good cooler this doesn't mean that it can cool below ambient so what is going on?

whow..i need that one...you take paypal? :)

Add: 12.5 in the room......you know that 12.5 deg C is EXTREMELY cold? Normal room temp is 20C (70 deg F)...12 deg celsius is a chilly day outside in February, its not freezing..but still VERY cold. I highly doubt thats your room temp.

Edit2: You say at idle your one core is at 8 :) This is just 4 deg over when water's freezing..its impossible you have that temp on your core, even if you would run this in an igloo in antarctica.

Edit3: You "really" have 10ish deg C ambient in your house?


An earlier post , I stated that he probably had a stuck cap, not uncommon as we all know to well that we have seen and or heard stranger things happen.





Just an FYI, I too have low ambient temps, said it many times that I have temps around the 14c - 18c range up here in Minnesota so, haveing those kind of temps are to say the least chilly yes but not out of the question.



As you you twjr, no worries, I understand how you must feel. Sometimes its frustrating to get some people to believe you with temps like those but the do exist but having them that low is, well...is pretty low. As I said, Up here where I live can get well below 0c outside (not now thank god) and I cant stand a hot house! Just so you know there are some people that streach the truth a tad bit, get what I mean?



 

twjr

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Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: twjr
So I have just installed my new Q6600 and thought I would give it a run at stock before I went and overclocked it. I am currently stressing it will with P95 and cores 0, 1 and 3 are hovering between 25 and 28 celcius and core 2 is at an improbable 20-21. At idle the three similar cores are around 14-16 and the lower one between 8-10. I am using the latest version of Core-temp to read the temps and have a lapped IHS and TRUE. the ambient temps in my comp room are a balmy 12.5 C. Though I have got a good cooler this doesn't mean that it can cool below ambient so what is going on?

whow..i need that one...you take paypal? :)

Add: 12.5 in the room......you know that 12.5 deg C is EXTREMELY cold? Normal room temp is 20C (70 deg F)...12 deg celsius is a chilly day outside in February, its not freezing..but still VERY cold. I highly doubt thats your room temp.

Edit2: You say at idle your one core is at 8 :) This is just 4 deg over when water's freezing..its impossible you have that temp on your core, even if you would run this in an igloo in antarctica.

Edit3: You "really" have 10ish deg C ambient in your house?


An earlier post , I stated that he probably had a stuck cap, not uncommon as we all know to well that we have seen and or heard stranger things happen.





Just an FYI, I too have low ambient temps, said it many times that I have temps around the 14c - 18c range up here in Minnesota so, haveing those kind of temps are to say the least chilly yes but not out of the question.



As you you twjr, no worries, I understand how you must feel. Sometimes its frustrating to get some people to believe you with temps like those but the do exist but having them that low is, well...is pretty low. As I said, Up here where I live can get well below 0c outside (not now thank god) and I cant stand a hot house! Just so you know there are some people that streach the truth a tad bit, get what I mean?

I'm actually not so worried about my cpu. At least it is running cool not hot.

Mostly I am just annoyed with people telling me I don't know how to use/understand Celcius. I live in a country that uses the METRIC system.

My guess is that Minnesota gets as cold if not colder than here just that your houses have some kind of combination of double glazing, insulation and a decent heating system, all of which are lacking in most student flats where I live.

Anyway I am going to try to get some photos loaded now.
 

Drsignguy

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Yes Minnesota gets very cold. This past year it dropped to -30c at times. Oh add the windchill factor and well I think you get what I mean. As for Our homes, yes very well built and insulated. But still we keep the home cool all the time. Its pretty natural around here.

So, I see your temps are cool. As for the 1 core @ lower temp, I wouldn't worry as I have 2 that do. Besides, worry more about how close they get to tjuction. This is where it counts anyway. All is good! :)
 

coxmaster

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Speedstep is turned on.. you can see that in the idle screenshot b/c the clock speed is significantly lower.
 

coreyb

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Why do you live in a house where your ambient temperature is around 10c?

I've never encountered such a thing...you can afford a Q6600 and the internet...but not a little bit of heat?