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zinfamous

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Anita herself just did this week. <3

*goes to the UN to cry about people saying she sucked*
*from the stage, calls a few people in the audience "human garbage"*
Etc.

this is all tremendously important. I am happy that you are satisfied with the results.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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That is a bit of a dishonest way to frame these two cases. The officers seemed to know the guy, I imagine if a guy who you knew for years pulled a stunt like this you'd hold your fire as much as possible like they did. And this is yet another anecdotal comparison that proves nothing.

Terribly sad case though.

a real man with real balls would have shot that psycopath to neutralize the threat against his innocent wife and daughter. No other way around it. Who cares if they know him? he was a threat to everyone, just as any 10 year old with a toy gun is obviously a threat to everyone in their minds, just as any young black kid is an immediate threat if they walk towards them in a strange way. No sympathy for that fuckhole cop and the shitty cop "friends" that did a shitass job of protecting his wife and daughter from that savage.
 

bshole

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Your post history speaks for itself, Maxi-pad. And every time you swing by, drop trou, and dump another turd like this, you only prove my point for me, better than anything I could ever say or do would prove it.

Part of your insanity is the delusion that you're somehow the smartest person in the room. This is common to degenerates, and I'll never understand why.

Oh please, this is common knowledge and has been known for years. It must serve some evolutionary benefit because most if not all humans suffer from it.

The psychological phenomenon of illusory superiority was identified as a form of cognitive bias (false belief) in the study Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One’s Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments (1999).[1] The identification derived from the cognitive bias evident in the criminal case of McArthur Wheeler, who robbed banks with his face covered with lemon juice, which he believed would make it invisible to the surveillance cameras. Wheeler’s incompetence was based on his misunderstanding the chemical properties of lemon juice as an invisible ink.[2]

Other investigations of cognitive dissonance, such as Why People Fail to Recognize Their Own Incompetence (2003), indicate that much incorrect self-assessment of competence derived from the person's ignorance of the standards of performance of a given activity. The pattern of overestimation of competence appeared in studies of reading comprehension, of the practice of medicine, of motor-vehicle operation, and the playing of games such as chess and tennis;[3] moreover, in Revisiting Why Incompetents Think They’re Awesome (2012), Dunning and Kruger’s research indicates that incompetent people will:

  • Fail to recognize their own lack of skill
  • Fail to recognize the extent of their inadequacy
  • Fail to accurately gauge skill in others, and
  • Recognize and acknowledge their lack of skill only after being exposed to formal training in that skill.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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At first I was watching the #1 video with the sound off and I thought the dashcam footage was from the perps car. The cop was driving like a total asshole and I'm surprised he didn't cause an accident on the way.
 

buckshot24

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There is nothing dishonest about it. The point is the response to an active shooter depends more on who the person is rather than how much of an immediate threat that person poses to the officers. Which is why eye's get rolled, tongues are bitten, and discussions of racism and classism are floated whenever many of us hear police officers give teary-eyed testimonies in court about how they feared for their lives. It seems a little melodramatic and quite off putting to hear that and see in far more dangerous situations the complete opposite happen.

Again, in Cleveland a 12 year old boy was playing in a park with a plastic gun tucked into his waistband is killed 10 seconds in arrival by the police. No shots fired by the boy. He wasn't even given the chance to comply with instructions. The defense for this was fear for life.

In NJ, a middle aged police officer chases his wife into an accident and then guns her down in her car (twice) in front of officers, threatens the life of a child in the process, and he is negotiated with and calmly led away without any use of force.

It makes you wonder...
Two entirely different situations. In both cases cops made mistakes. Anecdotal anyway.
 

buckshot24

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There appears to be a some police departments across the country who have lost lock on what their jobs are and who they serve.

Their job is to serve the public, which included both drivers in those videos.

Their job is to protect the public which included both drivers in those videos

They are also supposed to uphold the law.

It pretty obvious which officers did and did not do that.

I actually think the problem is one of culture. Instead of seeing themselves serving and protecting the public they see it as us vs a dangerous them or worse they see themselves as comic book heroes defeating criminals.

Maybe the last sounds a little off the wall but then again this happened:

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That is a Kentucky police department with the skull logo of "The Punisher" coupled with "Blue Lives Matter" on their patrol cars.

(For those who don't know, the Punisher is a comic about an anti hero vigilante who acts as judge jury and executioner for bad guys)

How comfortable would you feel if a police cruiser showed up with a skull on its hood from a character who takes the law into his own hands?
(Hell when have you ever thought to yourself, it's the good guys! When you see a car with a skull on it?)

While that police department removed the decals after public outcry what kind of culture do you think the police chief who approved it in the first place fosters with his officers? One about protecting and serving or one about taking out the bad guys and coming home safely no matter what.

The fix for this stuff isn't sexy. It's improving training, hiring and police policies. It's measuring police interaction with the public and improving on poor areas.

The police have a tough job dealing the public and its more dangerous than many (but not all) jobs. However us vs them doesn't make it any safer or easier for all of us.
That was a terrible decision. I don't see how you can make a larger point about police mindset by pointing to one terrible decision in a department in Kentucky. How many people were involved in this? Probably not many.