See If You Can Spot the Difference, Kids . . .

[Victorian Gray]

...well, that's HER opinion, anyway. Most of it just make-believe of what she imagines me to be in order to easily dismiss anything I (or anyone else like me) have to say.

"You disagree?? You must be a monster!!"

Dude, you don't actually have anything "to say" that's worth saying.

 

[Blue_Max]

Dude, you don't actually have anything "to say" that's worth saying.

...because it so often contradicts what you believe.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

He dreams of being the next "based stickman". It has to remain a dream though as he doesn't seem the type to actually be on 'the front line'.

I have no idea who Based Stickman is. In this house we worship Based Madokami, young man! =P

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

...now I have an idea who Based Stickman is, and can say Hell will freeze over before Maxi-pad gets off his fat diabetic basement-dwelling ass and learns bojutsu...

 

[Victorian Gray]

...because it so often contradicts what you believe.

No, because you literally have nothing to say. You simply repeat the same lies and really, really bad propaganda overandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandover...

 

[Sunburn74]

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/28819983/

"Once Philip Seidle stopped shooting, he put his gun to his head and started walking around her vehicle, police said. Officers, who were nearby investigating an unrelated motor-vehicle accident, started talking to him and got him to allow them to take his daughter out of his SUV.

As she was taken away, Philip Seidle then walked to the front of his wife's car and fired into the windshield."

For those who don't have time to read the whole story, a police officer chased his soon to be ex wife in his car and ran her off the road as a means to commit pre meditated murder. Then he shot her multiple times. Officers arrive and negotiate with him to let them get the daughter in the back seat out whilst seeing him as an active shooter. He agrees and as they get the daughter out, he shoots his wife again (who may still be alive at this point) in front of them multiple times. He is then consoled by his colleagues and given a blanket and led away calmly to the police station. There were no claims by officers that he was a dangerous active shooter that was a threat to their lives.

Don't forget they shot a black 12 year in Cleveland 10 seconds after arriving on scene because he had a toy gun tucked in his waist band. Of course there are huge double standards. If you are a police officer they will literally let you complete the murder without killing you.

 

[zinfamous]

Race, cultural Marxists, feminists, progressives, Islam, SJWs and, most importantly, ethics in gaming journalism.

at least we solved that one!

 

[J.Wilkins]

at least we solved that one!

Was that the one with resurrected John Wayne?

 

[Blue_Max]

at least we solved that one!

Anita herself just did this week. <3

*goes to the UN to cry about people saying she sucked*
*from the stage, calls a few people in the audience "human garbage"*
Etc.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Anita herself just did this week. <3

*goes to the UN to cry about people saying she sucked*
*from the stage, calls a few people in the audience "human garbage"*
Etc.

No one wants to watch videos or read links that make your point unless they are actual scientific studies to support your statements.

I have no idea who these people are and I don't know why I should care about them or their opinions, are they lawmakers, politicians or what?

 

[buckshot24]

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/28819983/

"Once Philip Seidle stopped shooting, he put his gun to his head and started walking around her vehicle, police said. Officers, who were nearby investigating an unrelated motor-vehicle accident, started talking to him and got him to allow them to take his daughter out of his SUV.

As she was taken away, Philip Seidle then walked to the front of his wife's car and fired into the windshield."

For those who don't have time to read the whole story, a police officer chased his soon to be ex wife in his car and ran her off the road as a means to commit pre meditated murder. Then he shot her multiple times. Officers arrive and negotiate with him to let them get the daughter in the back seat out whilst seeing him as an active shooter. He agrees and as they get the daughter out, he shoots his wife again (who may still be alive at this point) in front of them multiple times. He is then consoled by his colleagues and given a blanket and led away calmly to the police station. There were no claims by officers that he was a dangerous active shooter that was a threat to their lives.

Don't forget they shot a black 12 year in Cleveland 10 seconds after arriving on scene because he had a toy gun tucked in his waist band. Of course there are huge double standards. If you are a police officer they will literally let you complete the murder without killing you.

That is a bit of a dishonest way to frame these two cases. The officers seemed to know the guy, I imagine if a guy who you knew for years pulled a stunt like this you'd hold your fire as much as possible like they did. And this is yet another anecdotal comparison that proves nothing.

Terribly sad case though.

 

[cytg111]

Neutral gear. This belongs here :

Stop # 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtUnNPHVoA

 

[Paratus]

Totally not cherry-picked to prove a narrative. Nope. Not at all. Systemic racism, folks. Proof positive!

Hmmm?

Anita herself just did this week. <3

*goes to the UN to cry about people saying she sucked*
*from the stage, calls a few people in the audience "human garbage"*
Etc.

No one wants to watch videos or read links that make your point unless they are actual scientific studies to support your statements.

I have no idea who these people are and I don't know why I should care about them or their opinions, are they lawmakers, politicians or what?

That's some woman or SJW in BMs parlance that he doesn't like who he's linking to prove all women are evil and want to ruin his life.

(Most likely because some woman in his life hurt him by leaving him or told him he had to clean his room before he could go out and play)

 

[buckshot24]

Neutral gear. This belongs here :

Stop # 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtUnNPHVoA

haha

 

[J.Wilkins]

Hmmm?




That's some woman or SJW in BMs parlance that he doesn't like who he's linking to prove all women are evil and want to ruin his life.

(Most likely because some woman in his life hurt him by leaving him or told him he had to clean his room before he could go out and play)

That guy just dives in and out of threads and every time he seems to be just leaving a turd behind and exiting.

It was probably his mum, saying she was going out for cigarettes and then she never returned. Or, he killed her and keeps her around... I wouldn't put that past that sick freak.

 

[Victorian Gray]

No one wants to watch videos or read links that make your point unless they are actual scientific studies to support your statements.

I have no idea who these people are and I don't know why I should care about them or their opinions, are they lawmakers, politicians or what?

They are the end of civilization as we know it.

 

[buckshot24]

That guy just dives in and out of threads and every time he seems to be just leaving a turd behind and exiting.

It was probably his mum, saying she was going out for cigarettes and then she never returned. Or, he killed her and keeps her around... I wouldn't put that past that sick freak.

Right, he's possibly a murderer. You've really settled in.

 

[Sunburn74]

That is a bit of a dishonest way to frame these two cases. The officers seemed to know the guy, I imagine if a guy who you knew for years pulled a stunt like this you'd hold your fire as much as possible like they did. And this is yet another anecdotal comparison that proves nothing.

Terribly sad case though.

There is nothing dishonest about it. The point is the response to an active shooter depends more on who the person is rather than how much of an immediate threat that person poses to the officers. Which is why eye's get rolled, tongues are bitten, and discussions of racism and classism are floated whenever many of us hear police officers give teary-eyed testimonies in court about how they feared for their lives. It seems a little melodramatic and quite off putting to hear that and see in far more dangerous situations the complete opposite happen.

Again, in Cleveland a 12 year old boy was playing in a park with a plastic gun tucked into his waistband is killed 10 seconds in arrival by the police. No shots fired by the boy. He wasn't even given the chance to comply with instructions. The defense for this was fear for life.

In NJ, a middle aged police officer chases his wife into an accident and then guns her down in her car (twice) in front of officers, threatens the life of a child in the process, and he is negotiated with and calmly led away without any use of force.

It makes you wonder...

 

[J.Wilkins]

Right, he's possibly a murderer. You've really settled in.

Look, i get it, you got Asperger and cannot understand jokes, so in the future just for you i will point out when i make jokes.

That last post was a joke, this one isn't. Good so far?

 

[xthetenth]

...so that's the basic argumentative form we're to all follow, eh? Top-shelf stuff there.

So, you're confessing that you can't read?

Every single time I post in reply to you, I'm offering a model on how to deal with someone who doesn't engage with the arguments they're presented with and instead imagines enemies to rail against.

That you still haven't managed to even get the basic form down is so disappointing that I'm going to have to withdraw my congratulations on being able to get your self-esteem back in one of your overlong videos.

in reply to you

Now, for the audience and the record, tell me who I was quoting/replying to in the comment you quoted?

Your post is based on a blatant misrepresentation of what I said. This is par for the course. If you would like to try again, I'd be happy to humor you, but if not, I will remind you of your perfect record of not responding to my posts as written. You should count yourself fortunate that I don't hold grudges and am still willing to give you the time of day, since this sort of behavior is usually considered incredibly rude.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Degenerates lie, evade, ignore arguments, throw flaming strawmen, demand to engage with people in PM only...anything, anything, to avoid facing what it is they say they believe under direct sunlight.

Cowards, the lot of them. May they all rot.

 

[J.Wilkins]

Degenerates lie, evade, ignore arguments, throw flaming strawmen, demand to engage with people in PM only...anything, anything, to avoid facing what it is they say they believe under direct sunlight.

Cowards, the lot of them. May they all rot.

Sociopathism and the inability to understand others emotions is obviously linked, could it be the case that they are simply inept to feel anything but spite?

 

[96Firebird]

I'm confused, are the two videos in the OP the same arresting officer, the same department, hell even the same state? How am I supposed to come to any conclusions with so many variables?

 

[Paratus]

There appears to be a some police departments across the country who have lost lock on what their jobs are and who they serve.

Their job is to serve the public, which included both drivers in those videos.

Their job is to protect the public which included both drivers in those videos

They are also supposed to uphold the law.

It pretty obvious which officers did and did not do that.

I actually think the problem is one of culture. Instead of seeing themselves serving and protecting the public they see it as us vs a dangerous them or worse they see themselves as comic book heroes defeating criminals.

Maybe the last sounds a little off the wall but then again this happened:

That is a Kentucky police department with the skull logo of "The Punisher" coupled with "Blue Lives Matter" on their patrol cars.

(For those who don't know, the Punisher is a comic about an anti hero vigilante who acts as judge jury and executioner for bad guys)

How comfortable would you feel if a police cruiser showed up with a skull on its hood from a character who takes the law into his own hands?
(Hell when have you ever thought to yourself, it's the good guys! When you see a car with a skull on it?)

While that police department removed the decals after public outcry what kind of culture do you think the police chief who approved it in the first place fosters with his officers? One about protecting and serving or one about taking out the bad guys and coming home safely no matter what.

The fix for this stuff isn't sexy. It's improving training, hiring and police policies. It's measuring police interaction with the public and improving on poor areas.

The police have a tough job dealing the public and its more dangerous than many (but not all) jobs. However us vs them doesn't make it any safer or easier for all of us.

 

[sandorski]

I'm confused, are the two videos in the OP the same arresting officer, the same department, hell even the same state? How am I supposed to come to any conclusions with so many variables?

You certainly are confused and have asked many diversionary questions.