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Originally posted by: quadomatic
Is there any way to play Bioshock and avoid SecuROM?
What problems does SecuROM cause, and is my privacy at risk?
I suppose if it's not a huge deal, I'll just do what I do now, and use Linux for everything, and just use Windows for games...
I hear Supreme Commander was cool about DRM. Why can't everyone be like the Supreme Commander publishers?
Originally posted by: CP5670
Maybe they think it's not enough. Soon enough, we'll have games with Securom, Starforce and Steam all in the same exe.![]()
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: Capitalizt
I can't get any of the no-CD cracks to work.
I would suggest against using no-cd patches. Sometimes they violate the EULA (due to modification of the game's executable itself), they could also result in a ban from certain multiplayer games (they think you may be cheating because the game has "changed" in a way that was unintended), or worse still it could be a trojan.
There are however virtual drives that do not modify the game's executable and will not result in a false positive when it comes to anticheating measures. If you make your own image, then you do not have to worry about malware. Alcohol 52% allows you to make your own images and to mount them in a virtual drive, so you will never need the CD / DVD. Although please read the EULA to see if you are allowed to make a backup of your game's DVD / CD and/or if they allow this type of thing, if the EULA says that you are not allowed, then I would have to recommend that you just play the CD / DVD shuffle. Alcohol will only work if you have a legit license key for the game.
Can you speak if they at least are willing to implement this security system in NWN 2 and a possible Securom removal?
we're looking into that possibility.
Originally posted by: 308nato
For an old fart such as myself who has gamed since the beginning the joy and fun is gone. It resembles work and dealing with the man to much for my liking now.
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Atari considers the removal of SecuROM from NeverWinter Nights 2
Can you speak if they at least are willing to implement this security system in NWN 2 and a possible Securom removal?
we're looking into that possibility.
Good news! From what I have heard, SecuROM even makes a small impact on the performance of NWN2 itself.
Originally posted by: bodhammer
Originally posted by: 308nato
For an old fart such as myself who has gamed since the beginning the joy and fun is gone. It resembles work and dealing with the man to much for my liking now.
I pretty much concur with this post. The last three games I have purchased are Orange Box (Retail), Sins of a Solar Empire, and Bioshock. One has SecurROM, one is on Steam as I actived the serial number only, and one has nothing. Only Bioshock requires me to have the disk installed and it is really annoying as I have a 2-year old that like to push the buttons on my shiny computer and play with the shiny disks.
Stardock to me is where the industry should be. First and foremost, put out a quality product. Treat your loyal customers with respect as as honest people - most people are honest. Support your product publically and frequently.
I do not like Sony and all the crap they have done over the last couple of years with DRM. I would not piss on them if they were on fire! I did not buy a PS3, PSP, flatscreen, or a blu-ray from Sony because of their policies or actions. 10 years ago they were my first choice for electronics. Sony, are you hearing me?
I did not know that Securom was on Bioshock or I would not have bought it, the only reason I did was I found a hack for SM20B and it was on sale for $14.99.
Our other methods of copy protection remain. You will still have to activate your copy, and you will still need to keep the disc in the drive. SecuROM has not been removed -- just the activation limits on number of installs and number of computers you can install BioShock on simultaneously.
As I promised that the activation limits would go away, I can promise that if we ever stop supporting BioShock in the ways you speak of, we will release a patch so that the game is still playable. I believe, as you seem to, that BioShock will be the kind of game we will want to revisit 5, 10, 15 or more years from now. I want my copy to be playable, just as you do, and so does 2K.
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
2K removes Bioshock's SecuROM install limit
SecuROM remains in the game and one still has to activate it, but there is no longer a cap on the number of times you can activate it.
Our other methods of copy protection remain. You will still have to activate your copy, and you will still need to keep the disc in the drive. SecuROM has not been removed -- just the activation limits on number of installs and number of computers you can install BioShock on simultaneously.
As I promised that the activation limits would go away, I can promise that if we ever stop supporting BioShock in the ways you speak of, we will release a patch so that the game is still playable. I believe, as you seem to, that BioShock will be the kind of game we will want to revisit 5, 10, 15 or more years from now. I want my copy to be playable, just as you do, and so does 2K.
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Next Generation SecuROM requires activation every 10 days or else your game ceases to function.
Well, most multiplayer games check to make sure duplicate accounts are not in use, guess this is the logical extension to single player games.
Any guesses if they are going to take out the CD check or not? It seems that it would not need to verify that you have the CD if it is doing this...
Update: CD Check removed
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
Alone in the Dark SecuROM details:
Atari has announced that the PC version of Alone in the Dark, the adventure game developed by Hydravision and Eden, is certified Games for Windows and is compatible with Windows XP and Windows Vista operating systems. The PC version of the game is protected using SecuROM online activation. This requires that in addition to the content on the game disk, players download an additional component via an internet connection in order to install and run the game. Once the game has been correctly installed and activated, it can be played whilst offline. To install the game on a different computer, players must revoke the serial number when uninstalling from the first machine (this is an automatic option during the uninstall process).
http://www.gamershell.com/companies/atari/451270.html
I have two game machines at home and I can't have it installed on more than one PC at a time. That is lame.
Shit game plus worst DRM. Great job Atari!Originally posted by: mindcycle
I heard Alone in the Dark is crap anyway.. Even so, they won't be getting my money.