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"Security For America Act"?

Patranus

Patranus

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Would you support a law passed by congress requiring everyone to buy a gun or face a tax penalty?
 
While I'm not personally for it, it's no different than the health care mandate at the bottom line. Either the government CAN force citizens to buy things, or it CANT. There is no in between.
 
PrinceofWands said:
While I'm not personally for it, it's no different than the health care mandate at the bottom line. Either the government CAN force citizens to buy things, or it CANT. There is no in between.
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Though to be clear, he didn't ask if it would be Constitutional for Congress to pass such a law. He asked if you would support it.

No. I support people who want guns being able to buy them (assuming they're not prohibited due to criminal record, mental instability, etc.) Forcing purchases by people who don't want guns, and who presumably therefore don't know how to use and handle guns safely, would be a phenomenally horrid idea.
 
Bowfinger said:
Though to be clear, he didn't ask if it would be Constitutional for Congress to pass such a law. He asked if you would support it.

No. I support people who want guns being able to buy them (assuming they're not prohibited due to criminal record, mental instability, etc.) Forcing purchases by people who don't want guns, and who presumably therefore don't know how to use and handle guns safely, would be a phenomenally horrid idea.
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Yeah I know...it just dawned on me how parallel the two situations would be.
 
No. People can't force me to not have guns, and I can't force people to have guns if they don't want them.

Liberty = doing as you please, not bothering anyone else, and minding your own damn business.
 
If mandating health insurance is for general welfare, then this could be as well for the same reasons. Mandate that everyone own a gun, 100 rounds of ammo, and take classes in gun safety and marksmanship. Think of all the money we could save on law enforcement!

It is an interesting parallel, but it only serves to show that no such mandate should be allowed. The whole idea is nonsense. It can't be a huge surprise to anyone that such a mandate is unconstitutional.
 
That's the difference between a lefty and righty: left doesn't want a gun and doesn't think anyone else should be allowed to have on either. Righty wants a gun, he buys one, otherwise he doesn't buy one, and that's the end of it.
 
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exdeath said:
No. People can't force me to not have guns, and I can't force people to have guns if they don't want them.

Liberty = doing as you please, not bothering anyone else, and minding your own damn business.
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Their end game is dependence on the state, liberty has no place in the progressive vision.
 
Government cant mandate anyone to buy anything, unless it is some kind of liability issue like automobile insurance. Some countries have a forced military service in order to train everyone to do service to their country and force everyone to learn to defend themselves. I could see a model like this where they take some of your pay and then when you go home, you get to take your firearm with you. Whether that would be constitutional would be a different matter. It has a bit of a socialist agenda. South Korea has a mandatory military service requirement.
 
exdeath said:
That's the difference between a lefty and righty: left doesn't want a gun and doesn't think anyone else should be allowed to have on either. Righty wants a gun, he buys one, otherwise he doesn't buy on.
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Well, actually it's more that the lefty doesn't want one (usually) and thinks that responsible and effective gun laws should be in place. And also usually finds it funny that righties tend to be in support of limits to the First Amendment but thinks the Second Amendment should be all access to anything.

As far as my opinion on the subject, no I wouldn't support it. But I support a public defense option known as the police and national guard because it's a smarter and safer approach. I also support a public health plan option because it's a smarter and safer approach.
 
piasabird said:
Government cant mandate anyone to buy anything, unless it is some kind of liability issue like automobile insurance. Some countries have a forced military service in order to train everyone to do service to their country and force everyone to learn to defend themselves. I could see a model like this where they take some of your pay and then when you go home, you get to take your firearm with you. Whether that would be constitutional would be a different matter. It has a bit of a socialist agenda. South Korea has a mandatory military service requirement.
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Actually quite a few countries have mandatory military service.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service#Countries_with_mandatory_military_service
 
Have you priced a firearm lately? Is the government going to mandate you purchase this firearm from a list of authorized suppliers? Kind of intersting, but too many loopholes. I doubt if there are that many firearms even being made to keep up with the supply. A lot of people dont feel safe around firearms, and simply choose not to own them.

Mommy, can I hold your gun?

This could be one way of creating some jobs???

Need people to make guns.
Need more people to sell guns.
Need someone to train gun users.
Need someone to build Gun Training Facilities.
Need places to fire guns for practice.

What types of firearms would be required?
Hand Gun of what caliber?
Shot Gun?
Rifle?
What about caliber and range of ammunition?

This is not very well thought through.
 
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