Security Camera Solutions

radtechtips

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Not sure where to put this but A/V sounds right. Anyway my parents what me to put in a few security cameras in the back of the house, probably 3-4. I don't know if i should go wired or wireless, cause the good wireless seem a lot more expensive. I also want to run them to the media center, which is in one of the back corners and about 40 ft to the other side. They want to be able to view them from a smartphone, or laptop. Motion detection to text/call/email would be a huge plus. Night/infared would be cool but not completely necessary.

Main Questions:
Wired or wireless?
How to view from web/app interface?
 

boomhower

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Keep wired. Wireless leaves you open to interference issues, not to mention your going to have to run power anyways.
 

vbuggy

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Go PoE - makes power and network simple.

I primarily use the SNC-DH220 (and the 720p version of it) at my homes for fixed-camera, indoor and semi-indoor use. I also have 720p versions with IR illuminators for semi-outdoor use. There are also fancier motorised pan, tilt and zoom models I use for external monitoring (streamed to / controlled by a third party security company) but these are significantly more expensive.

Security cameras can be either about capturing movement and a vague clue of what's going on (which is what the majority of <$500 cameras do), or capturing actually usable evidence. The cameras offering the latter (like the ones I use) will be more expensive. It'll depend on which you want.
 

thecoolnessrune

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I echo the sentiments of vbuggy in using PoE. Either get a PoE switch for the cameras or PoE injectors. It makes use of security cameras much more seamless.

Additionally as he said, your parents may have an unrealistic budget for 3-4 cameras. Expect to pay at least $800 (per camera) for cameras that can give you usable, actual evidence of whats going on, on your property. Otherwise you're really just capturing movement.
 
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vbuggy

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As I said it depends on what you want. You can go to many camera vendors sites and request a sample camera feed to get a feel of what you actually need. I felt the cameras were worthless unless you can see features, etc along with fast movement in less than ideal light, among other things. On the other hand, some people just want a camera to look like a camera, and others just need to see something moving around. With virtually any camera, as long as the subjects are close enough you'll get reasonable detail.
 

gar655

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We have a 4 camera Lorex (got from Costco on sale for $900. It will run up to 8 cameras and mainain 1080p 30fps video (so they say). We have 4 cameras set up and the video is pretty good. Anything within 40ft or has very good detail beyond that the details start to fade and the wide angle lens tends to cause distortion.

Over all it's a pretty good system for the money. And you can view it from a smartphone, tablet or PC.
 

JackBurton

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This is an excellent topic. Anyone know of a solution that adds motion detection to trigger the camera recording? And also be able to email/text when that happens, and be able to access the camera remotely?
 

Kaido

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Not sure where to put this but A/V sounds right. Anyway my parents what me to put in a few security cameras in the back of the house, probably 3-4. I don't know if i should go wired or wireless, cause the good wireless seem a lot more expensive. I also want to run them to the media center, which is in one of the back corners and about 40 ft to the other side. They want to be able to view them from a smartphone, or laptop. Motion detection to text/call/email would be a huge plus. Night/infared would be cool but not completely necessary.

Main Questions:
Wired or wireless?
How to view from web/app interface?

Wired is the most reliable route. If you get a DVR unit (like a Tivo for your cameras), most of those have smartphone & webpage interfaces (for laptop/desktop access) as well as motion detection with alerts. Here are a couple "everything in the box" products that are super easy to setup:

http://www.swann.com/region/usa/entry/us

http://www.zmodo.com/

As far as power goes, there are a few options:

1. Local power (power outlet near the camera)
2. Line power (basically a skinny, long extension cord included with the camera to get power off the DVR box)
3. POE (Power-over-Ethernet, which sends power over an Ethernet cable so that you only have to run a single line to each camera - both the picture & power go over the single cable, which makes it really easy)

Most of the budget models have a dual-cable system that includes the power cable and the video cable in one bundle. The nicer ones have POE so it really is only one cable.

Motion detection is usually done through Email, although most carrier's SMS systems on phones include an email address to forward to a phone (like Verizon would be yournumber@@vzwpix.com). A list of SMS gateways is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways

Some systems also let you upload to FTP or capture to the storage drive. Some systems also let you block out which areas to detect motion in, so if you only want to record motion from a glass door or a window, you can do that too:

http://i.imgur.com/6OwtA6r.jpg

So your installation is basically:

1. Install cameras and run lines
2. Install DVR box (camera lines + power adapter + Ethernet for data)
3. Install apps on phones
4. Install bookmarks on laptops
5. Configure DVR for motion detection & email alerts, recording settings, etc.
6. Test email alerts to SMS to phones

It's all pretty easy, the worst part is having to run the lines through the attic or wherever. Also, a lot of the boxes have VGA output, so you can hook up a local monitor if you want a little security screen at the DVR location. One of the Zmodo's I setup at a friend's shop has two VGA LCD monitors with a splitter - one in the desk area of the shop to monitor the entrance, and the other in the rear of the shop to monitor the entrance when people are working, so any of the workers could glance at a screen and see all of the cameras to see if visitors needed help or whatever.
 

Kaido

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This is an excellent topic. Anyone know of a solution that adds motion detection to trigger the camera recording? And also be able to email/text when that happens, and be able to access the camera remotely?

See my post above about the DVR solutions - they have onboard software (typically it's a tiny Linux box with like a 500-gig hard drive for local recording & a fullscree GUI). The other option is to get computer software and have the cameras talk to the computers for control. This is the most powerful route because you can basically do anything you want with a computer. Here's a couple Mac clients I've tinkered around with in the past:

http://www.bensoftware.com/securityspy/

http://www.evological.com/evocam.html

There's a zillion options for Windows: (just grabbing from google here)

http://www.sighthoundlabs.com/features

http://www.ispyconnect.com/

http://www.nchsoftware.com/surveillance/index.html

http://www.webcamxp.com/screenshots.aspx

http://www.contaware.com/content/view/44/46/
 

JackBurton

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See my post above about the DVR solutions - they have onboard software (typically it's a tiny Linux box with like a 500-gig hard drive for local recording & a fullscree GUI). The other option is to get computer software and have the cameras talk to the computers for control. This is the most powerful route because you can basically do anything you want with a computer. Here's a couple Mac clients I've tinkered around with in the past:

http://www.bensoftware.com/securityspy/

http://www.evological.com/evocam.html

There's a zillion options for Windows: (just grabbing from google here)

http://www.sighthoundlabs.com/features

http://www.ispyconnect.com/

http://www.nchsoftware.com/surveillance/index.html

http://www.webcamxp.com/screenshots.aspx

http://www.contaware.com/content/view/44/46/


Thanks man. I'll look into it.