Secret Service looking into Ted Nugent's violent anti-Obama rant

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http://news.yahoo.com/secret-looking-ted-nugents-violent-anti-obama-rant-215204802.html



WASHINGTON - The U.S. Secret Service is reportedly investigating faded '70s rock star Ted Nugent for his recent insistence he'll be "dead or in jail" in a year's time if President Barack Obama is re-elected in November.

At a convention of the National Rifle Association over the weekend, the longtime gun advocate compared Obama and the Democrats to a coyote who should be shot.

"It isn't the enemy that ruined America," he said as he reaffirmed his endorsement of Republican front-runner Mitt Romney.

"It's good people who bent over and let the enemy in. If the coyote's in your living room pissing on your couch, it's not the coyote's fault. It's your fault for not shooting him."

He accused the Obama administration of being "evil" and "America-hating."

"If Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year," he said angrily. "We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November."

He then told his audience of proud gun-owners that if they failed to "clean house in this vile, evil, America-hating administration, I don't even know what you're made out of."

The Secret Service says it's aware of the weekend remarks and is looking into them.

The Romney campaign, meantime, attempted to distance itself from Nugent on Tuesday, undoubtedly regretting the former Massachusetts governor's comments last month to a Missouri radio show: "It's been fun getting to know Ted Nugent."

"Divisive language is offensive no matter what side of the political aisle it comes from," Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said in an email to reporters. "Mitt Romney believes everyone needs to be civil."

[Related: Romney campaign backs away from Nugent's Obama remark]

The Democratic National Committee called on Romney to strongly condemn the remarks by Nugent, best known for his late '70s hit "Cat Scratch Fever."

"Threatening violence — or whatever it is that Nugent's threatening — is clearly beyond the pale, but Nugent's not the one running for president," said DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

At the daily White House press briefing on Tuesday, spokesman Jay Carney wouldn't comment on Nugent's remarks.

"We can't be policing the statement of supporters across the board. The president is focused on the issues," he said.

Nugent, however, was unapologetic, telling conservative radio host Dana Loesch that his incendiary remarks were "100 per cent positive."

"I will stand by my speech," he said, and then upped the ante by heaping more scorn on Democrats, describing Wasserman Schultz as a "brain-dead, soulless, heartless idiot."

Nancy Pelosi, minority leader for the House of Representatives, he added, is a "sub-human scoundrel."

Nugent also claimed the generally mild-mannered Romney agreed with his remarks.

"Mitt Romney knows what I'm saying is true. He puts it into words for him, I put it into words for me," he said.
 

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Here come the liberal thought police again.

Was it an act by the conservative thought police when the SS investigated some people's remarks about Bush?

I, personally, don't think this kind of stuff warrants any kind of investigation... but let's not turn this into what it never was; a partisan or ideological pissing contest.
 

corwin

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Are these the same SS who got caught hiring the prostitutes? Or the ones that didn't get caught hiring prostitutes?
 

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Wasn't kidding myself, so calm down.

Both of those are stupid. I really have come to hate how we have elevated the position of President so much higher than an ordinary citizen. The New Black Panther's can put a bounty on Zimmerman and nothing happens, but a drawing or a political rant on the President gets the Feds down on you.
 

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I'm sure it is fun getting to know Ted Nugent, but the guy is losing it. He's put up posters of Obama, Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton during his concerts and shot broad heads into them. Not cool.

I like Nugent, but shut up and sing should apply to both sides of the aisle.
 

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I'm sure it is fun getting to know Ted Nugent, but the guy is losing it. He's put up posters of Obama, Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton during his concerts and shot broad heads into them. Not cool.

I like Nugent, but shut up and sing should apply to both sides of the aisle.

sounds like a shining example of free speech to me.

no different than hanging/burning an effigy of Nixon, Ford, Carter, Regan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama.
 
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I'm sure it is fun getting to know Ted Nugent, but the guy is losing it. He's put up posters of Obama, Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton during his concerts and shot broad heads into them. Not cool.

It is cool.

In fact, its very cool.

There are a few people that still stand up for what is right and wrong. And like most sheeple, when you see someone standing up, you criticize them.

Why dont you just sit back down and keep quit.
 

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The U.S. Secret Service is reportedly investigating faded '70s rock star Ted Nugent for his recent insistence he'll be "dead or in jail" in a year's time if President Barack Obama is re-elected in November.

Well, Obama has secured my vote.
 

HomerJS

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It is cool.

In fact, its very cool.

There are a few people that still stand up for what is right and wrong. And like most sheeple, when you see someone standing up, you criticize them.

Why dont you just sit back down and keep quit.

Just another crazy chickenhawk. If he is into protecting freedom so much why did he bend over backwards to avoid serving in Vietnam? He pissed pants at the thought of going.

Another right wing loudmouth with a gun who is a big pussy. He wouldn't be hunting either if deer could shoot back.
 

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Even though I may agree with the Nuge... and he has every right to say whatever he wantsHe really needs to STFU. Same goes for most Celebs. From a business standpoint you can easily piss of loyal fans who want to just listen to music and not hear about politics. He made a good career about singing about fast women and fast cars, even though his fast cars were a metaphor for fast women. Now he sings about politics and hunting rights. I have never, ever in the history of my life ever had the desire to raise my hands in the air and say “I wanna Hunt”.
 
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There's a pretty clear distinction between "I don't like his policies" and "he needs to be killed." One of those is illegal. It doesn't matter who you are or who is in the White House, if you have to resort to implying that the President needs to be killed, you've crossed the line into fucking lunatic territory.
 

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Just another crazy chickenhawk. If he is into protecting freedom so much why did he bend over backwards to avoid serving in Vietnam? He pissed pants at the thought of going.

So you agree with the government killing US citizens over an idea?

Vietnam was a mistake. But for some reason we should blindly go where our government tells us to?
 

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Even though I may agree with the Nuge... and he has every right to say whatever he wantsHe really needs to STFU. Same goes for most Celebs. From a business standpoint you can easily piss of loyal fans who want to just listen to music and not hear about politics. He made a good career about singing about fast women and fast cars, even though his fast cars were a metaphor for fast women. Now he sings about politics and hunting rights. I have never, ever in the history of my life ever had the desire to raise my hands in the air and say “I wanna Hunt”.
Exactly this, they should all STFU
There's a pretty clear distinction between "I don't like his policies" and "he needs to be killed." One of those is illegal. It doesn't matter who you are or who is in the White House, if you have to resort to implying that the President needs to be killed, you've crossed the line into fucking lunatic territory.
I think you read something else, no implication of killing the president found...though TN is a little over the edge...
 

Jaskalas

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He doesn't want to shut up and sing, obviously. He sees what all conservatives see and he knows we're losing the fight to keep government small, responsible, and representative. We're quickly becoming the tyranny our founders fought against and more.

The desperation in his remarks are a sign of his age and his ego tells him to go make a difference before the end. He's doing it the wrong way cause he's not smart enough to see the alternatives. He's also not smart enough to know Romney is part of the problem. He's an atypical Republican partisan whose time is running out.

Where as he thinks it ends in individual violence, I at least like to believe we can get a state to pick a fight and stand up for themselves legally, on both sides of the aisle. I believe our partistan divide lends itself an oppertunity for the gridlock in Washington to force state solutions, and inherently from there, restore state's rights.

Is the difference between me a Nugent hope? A fool's hope? Perhaps, but I am no fool to think a few men in Washington make a difference. Their lives are inconsequential compared to the ideas they hold, the ideas of a party and in turn, the ideas of half a nation.

A few random acts of violence serve no purpose, and I would see the Secret Service put an end to it if needed, or keep an eye on it otherwise. His remarks try to make a credible threat that I simply do not agree with be it Bush or Obama.

This at least, is something P&N should agree on.


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I might be outraged if it wasn't the SS's job to investigate death threats, regardless of whether it's an R or D in office.

With good reason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

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George W. Bush

February 7, 2001: While President George W. Bush was in the White House Residence, in Washington, DC, Robert Pickett, standing outside the perimeter fence, discharged a number of shots from a weapon towards the White House. The U.S. Park Police stated, according to CNN correspondent Eileen O'Connor, that the type of handgun that was confiscated was of a sophisticated type and had the shooter not been shooting from an obstructed angle view, the bullets would have reached the White House. Following a stand-off of about ten minutes, the incident ended when a Secret Service officer shot Pickett, resulting in an injury which required immediate hospital surgery. Pickett was found to have emotional problems and employment grievances. Pickett had previously written letters to the President about these grievances. A court in July 2001 sentenced Pickett to three years imprisonment in connection with the incident.

September 11, 2001: On the morning of 9/11, President George W. Bush was at the Colony Beach and Tennis Resort on Longboat Key, Florida.[27] He woke up around 6:00 AM and prepared for his morning jog.[28][29] A van occupied by men of Middle Eastern descent arrived at the Colony Beach Resort and claimed they had a "poolside" interview with the President. They did not have an appointment and were turned away.[30] It is possible this was an assassination attempt modeled on the one used on anti-Taliban fighter and Northern Alliance military leader Ahmed Massoud two days earlier. The previous April, Massoud addressed the European Parliament and warned of the possibility of al-Qaeda attacking in the West.[31][32] Longboat Key Fire Marshal Carroll Mooneyhan was reported to have overheard the conversation between the men and the Secret Service, but he later denied the report. The newspaper that reported this, the Longboat Observer, stands by its story.[33] Both Mooneyhan and the Observer reporter were questioned by the Secret Service, but the agency has not commented further.[33] Witnesses have recalled seeing 9/11 hijacker ringleader Mohamed Atta in the Longboat Key Holiday Inn a short distance from where Bush was staying as recently as September 7, the day Bush’s Sarasota appearance was publicly announced.

May 10, 2005: While President George W. Bush was giving a speech in the Freedom Square in Tbilisi, Georgia, Vladimir Arutyunian threw a live Soviet-made RGD-5 hand grenade towards the podium where Bush was standing and where Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili, the First Lady of the United States Laura Bush, the First Lady of Georgia Sandra Roelofs, and officials were seated. The grenade was live and had its pin pulled, but did not explode because a red tartan handkerchief wrapped tightly around the grenade kept the firing pin from deploying quickly enough.Arutyunian was arrested in July 2005 and killed an Interior Ministry agent while resisting arrest. He was convicted in January 2006 and was given a life sentence.

Barack Obama

On November 11, 2011, Oscar Ortega-Hernandez shot as many as seven bullets at the White House, with two bullets hitting the White House, cracking a window. He was arrested in Pennsylvania and charged with the attempted assassination of President Barack Obama. Obama was never endangered because he was in Honolulu, Hawaii at the time for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation.
 

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He doesn't want to shut up and sing, obviously. He sees what all conservatives see and he knows we're losing the fight to keep government small, responsible, and representative. We're quickly becoming the tyranny our founders fought against and more.

The desperation in his remarks are a sign of his age and his ego tells him to go make a difference before the end. He's doing it the wrong way cause he's not smart enough to see the alternatives. He's also not smart enough to know Romney is part of the problem. He's an atypical Republican partisan whose time is running out.

Where as he thinks it ends in individual violence, I at least like to believe we can get a state to pick a fight and stand up for themselves legally, on both sides of the aisle. I believe our partistan divide lends itself an oppertunity for the gridlock in Washington to force state solutions, and inherently from there, restore state's rights.

Is the difference between me a Nugent hope? A fool's hope? Perhaps, but I am no fool to think a few men in Washington make a difference. Their lives are inconsequential compared to the ideas they hold, the ideas of a party and in turn, the ideas of half a nation.

A few random acts of violence serve no purpose, and I would see the Secret Service put an end to it if needed, or keep an eye on it otherwise. His remarks try to make a credible threat that I simply do not agree with be it Bush or Obama.

This at least, is something P&N should agree on.


Save7534

What are you talking about? Nugent is a nutter.