Second Week in Sept - Three Big Releases

[Liet]

Originally posted by: Dumac
I would count T-Fighter, AVP, Mechwarrior, etc as mindless action.

I don't know exactly why, but I was far more involved with the action in those games - I felt it had a real purpose and it was easier to immerse myself in it. Hell, I actually went through every single Tie Fighter mission and wrote every single secret objective in a book so I could try to accomplish them all.

Maybe I'm just old (29) and bitter, but it's really hard to get immersed in modern games. They just feel so shallow and empty.

 

[Beev]

It's because those were the games you played "back in your day." Nothing more. Try playing ANY game that old now, and after your nostalgia wears off you'll see how simple and boring the games are.

That's not to say I don't agree with you. I think our current generation of teenagers (as a whole, but we're just talking about games here) is utter garbage and doesn't know jack about what makes a good game.

 

[Liet]

I started playing Nethack and X-Com recently and had more fun than with more modern console-ports. Give mye Nethack ANY DAY over Assassin's Creed.

I know what you're saying, though... Still, I think any modern console game would be hard-pressed to top the complexity and robustness of Tie Fighter.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Dumac
EDIT: Most of the "old goodies" are before my time, but I went back and played many of them. When I was growing up, I was games such as Diablo 2, Starcraft, Everquest, etc. I guess it was around the Playstation/N64 era.

What is really weird to me is that I can talk to people just a few years younger than me, and they haven't played the titles that made my childhood. I just ifnd it weird that buy a tad they missed games like Diablo 2 and Super Mario 64.

The funny thing is that those were after my time. Diablo 2 came out when I was in College, and I had no money or time to play video games, so I missed this "golden age" you all seem to talk about. I had a lot of fun with my own golden age with games like Space Quest, Police Quest, (all the Sierra "Quest" games were awesome, and I still play them), Doom, Doom 2, Quake, Duke 3D, Mechwarrior 2 (MW1 kind of sucked), C&C, Red Alert, Warcraft 2, Diablo, and Star Craft which came out my senior year in High School and was probably the last game I really got to play until I graduated college.

I have never played Super Mario 64. Super Mario 3 was the most fun for me (although I really liked Super Mario World as well). I got a NES the year it was released, and while I played and beat the original SMB, I never really thought of it as all that fun compared to other games. I couldn't believe that my parents would pay $100 for a NES on Christmas for me and my sister!
Diablo 2 I played, because my roommate in College had pirated it, and I tried it out. I remember thinking that it was exactly the same as the original with only a couple of upgrades. I couldn't really get into it, as it was like I had already played the game to death before I even got started.

 

[samduhman]

If they rate well on gamerankings/metacritics I'll be buying all three. Who cares if they are console ports if your a PC gamer and they do well in the reviews you should get the PC versions and hook up a gamepad if you must.

I have all three current consoles and find them boring. My PC brings me into the games and provides a better overall gaming experience versus sitting on my couch playing on the big screen.

 

[samduhman]

Originally posted by: Beev
It's because those were the games you played "back in your day." Nothing more. Try playing ANY game that old now, and after your nostalgia wears off you'll see how simple and boring the games are.

That's not to say I don't agree with you. I think our current generation of teenagers (as a whole, but we're just talking about games here) is utter garbage and doesn't know jack about what makes a good game.

Ummm, PC Gamer magazine recently did a test of this with three relatively new gamers. They had them play X-Com. Once they got past the graphics they where hooked and impressed at how fun the game was. So you sir are incorrect, no disrespect.

 

[samduhman]

Originally posted by: Beev
It's because those were the games you played "back in your day." Nothing more. Try playing ANY game that old now, and after your nostalgia wears off you'll see how simple and boring the games are.

That's not to say I don't agree with you. I think our current generation of teenagers (as a whole, but we're just talking about games here) is utter garbage and doesn't know jack about what makes a good game.

Ummm, PC Gamer magazine recently did a test of this with three relatively new gamers. They had them play X-Com. Once they got past the graphics they where hooked and impressed at how fun the game was. So you sir are incorrect, no disrespect.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: samduhman

Originally posted by: Beev
It's because those were the games you played "back in your day." Nothing more. Try playing ANY game that old now, and after your nostalgia wears off you'll see how simple and boring the games are.

That's not to say I don't agree with you. I think our current generation of teenagers (as a whole, but we're just talking about games here) is utter garbage and doesn't know jack about what makes a good game.

Ummm, PC Gamer magazine recently did a test of this with three relatively new gamers. They had them play X-Com. Once they got past the graphics they where hooked and impressed at how fun the game was. So you sir are incorrect, no disrespect.

Just three relatively new gamers... Three people are not the same views of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

What about experienced gamers?

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

I have RE5 on the PS3, great game, but I have no reason to buy it twice.

They've screwed Red Faction: Guerrilla on the PC by not including a dedicated server app IMO. Seriously, if you are going to offer a worthwhile multiplayer experience on the PC, include a godamned dedicated server app for it or don't expect me to pony up. The PC is the one platform that I'm really big on the MP experience, so if you want my money, that's what I require. Without it, the multiplayer community for that game will be dead within weeks.

Batman AA is taking advantage of PhysX capabilities on Geforce 8x00 series cards and above, and that game is awesome, so I'll probably pick it up on Steam at some point. I have it on the PS3 right now because of the Joker and Scarecrow challenge room stuff, but I'd pony up another $25 for the PC version at some point.

 

[Liet]

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx I have it on the PS3 right now because of the Joker and Scarecrow challenge room stuff, but I'd pony up another $25 for the PC version at some point.

You know you could just plug in an Xbox controller into your PC and play, right? Is the Joker/Scarecrow stuff really worth an extra $60?

 

[Earballs]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
None of those are big, or even noteworthy, releases to me.

Ditto...

October brings Infinity Ward's turn on Call of Duty. Always worth the money.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Earballs

Originally posted by: Jumpem
None of those are big, or even noteworthy, releases to me.

Ditto...

October brings Infinity Ward's turn on Call of Duty. Always worth the money.

BAA is looking likely to be nominated for several GotY nods. That alone makes it noteworthy, notwithstanding it's a freaking Batman game getting stellar reviews and that most comic based games stink. This is a big release.

Putting aside that you can call almost any RE release a big one, RE5 is the direct sequel to one of the best games ever, and the latest in a long line of revered RE franchise games, hence it too is at the very least noteworthy.

RFG is the sleeper of the three, no doubt, but is very highly praised by those who have played it on consoles, and Red Faction is an established franchise with two highly rated games from 2001 and 2002 which if not pioneering destructive environments certainly employed the technique in a fresh fashion. As a third game coming along in a well reviewed series almost 8 years after the last iteration, noteworthy is certainly a word I find applicable, even if you disagree with big.

Given its massive sales and ubiquitous nature in pop culture in recent years CoD4:2 is what I'd call a huge release.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinions, even if I find your opinions to be less than...noteworthy.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: TridenT

Originally posted by: samduhman

Originally posted by: Beev
It's because those were the games you played "back in your day." Nothing more. Try playing ANY game that old now, and after your nostalgia wears off you'll see how simple and boring the games are.

That's not to say I don't agree with you. I think our current generation of teenagers (as a whole, but we're just talking about games here) is utter garbage and doesn't know jack about what makes a good game.

Ummm, PC Gamer magazine recently did a test of this with three relatively new gamers. They had them play X-Com. Once they got past the graphics they where hooked and impressed at how fun the game was. So you sir are incorrect, no disrespect.

Just three relatively new gamers... Three people are not the same views of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.

What about experienced gamers?

I have to attest that old, great games are not all chalked full with nostalgia. I've went back and played many of the "oldies" for the first time recently, and a lot of them were as, if not more, enjoyable than current games.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Dumac
I have to attest that old, great games are not all chalked full with nostalgia.

:laugh:

The word you're looking for here is "chock-full".