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Seattle Defies Drug Czar; Votes To Make Marijuana Prosecutions Lowest Priority

Human beings, actually lets say chimpanzees have been self medicating for millions of years. Outlawing drugs is nuts.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Human beings, actually lets say chimpanzees have been self medicating for millions of years. Outlawing drugs is nuts.
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I consider it a form of self protection. If they don't like it...well then f#ck them and thier mothers too. F#king druggies.
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Human beings, actually lets say chimpanzees have been self medicating for millions of years. Outlawing drugs is nuts.
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I consider it a form of self protection. If they don't like it...well then f#ck them and thier mothers too. F#king druggies.
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Hehe, self protection from what, what you fear you'll feel if you get high and loose control, Moonbeam in there waiting to come out? 😀 Reminds me of the story of the farmer and the lion.

 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Human beings, actually lets say chimpanzees have been self medicating for millions of years. Outlawing drugs is nuts.
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I consider it a form of self protection. If they don't like it...well then f#ck them and thier mothers too. F#king druggies.
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Hehe, self protection from what, what you fear you'll feel if you get high and loose control, Moonbeam in there waiting to come out? 😀 Reminds me of the story of the farmer and the lion.
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Self protection from having to step over druggies to go get my morning paper. Ever read about what happened to China as a result of Opium? Or how bad cocaine had become in the US in the early part of the last century? F#ck it, I am heading to Iraq in a month anyway. Idiots in Seattle can try and test the federal government if they want..they will find that the DEA and Justice can stomp back hard if they so desire.
 
Self protection from having to step over druggies to go get my morning paper. Ever read about what happened to China as a result of Opium? Or how bad cocaine had become in the US in the early part of the last century? F#ck it, I am heading to Iraq in a month anyway. Idiots in Seattle can try and test the federal government if they want..they will find that the DEA and Justice can stomp back hard if they so desire.
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Before Jerry went to that great big hashish farm in the sky, the only potheads you were stepping over were following the Grateful Dead. You are a prime example of why a little bit of history knowledge actually promotes ignorance. Clearly biased account of the Opium Wars but in the ballpark

Cocaine is also a complicated story. Drug traffickers that made mad cheddar on pot (a relatively mild drug in psychoactive and addictive potential) had to switch crops as it became difficult to move their product. A kilogram of pot is hard to hide/transport and sux for retail compared to a kg of Columbia's finest.

The quick (highly addictive) free base was the refuge of the rich until some enterprising fellow cut his coke with baking soda, got it wet, and then tried to dry it with heat. Regardless, American law enforcement did not stop crack. They won't stop heroin (which has returned), X, LSD, 'shrooms, or abuse of Rx drugs (old school Valium, new school OxyContin).

As for the topic, it makes sense for law enforcement to use its limited resources judiciously. MJ interdiction and prosecution of recreational users is a waste. The gateway theory of MJ is still a debate. Even if gateway becomes well supported it's a scant fraction of the societal costs from alcohol and cigarettes.
 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Human beings, actually lets say chimpanzees have been self medicating for millions of years. Outlawing drugs is nuts.
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I consider it a form of self protection. If they don't like it...well then f#ck them and thier mothers too. F#king druggies.
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Hehe, self protection from what, what you fear you'll feel if you get high and loose control, Moonbeam in there waiting to come out? 😀 Reminds me of the story of the farmer and the lion.
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Self protection from having to step over druggies to go get my morning paper. Ever read about what happened to China as a result of Opium? Or how bad cocaine had become in the US in the early part of the last century? F#ck it, I am heading to Iraq in a month anyway. Idiots in Seattle can try and test the federal government if they want..they will find that the DEA and Justice can stomp back hard if they so desire.
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You actually think having to step over druggies has something to do with drugs. Why not blame the disease they are medicating against. Why not create a world where there is hope instead of this meaningless sh!t farm you call the world. Of course you have my greatest sympathy over your difficulties in getting your paper. Life can sometimes be very very tough.

 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Human beings, actually lets say chimpanzees have been self medicating for millions of years. Outlawing drugs is nuts.
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I consider it a form of self protection. If they don't like it...well then f#ck them and thier mothers too. F#king druggies.
Click to expand...
Hehe, self protection from what, what you fear you'll feel if you get high and loose control, Moonbeam in there waiting to come out? 😀 Reminds me of the story of the farmer and the lion.
Click to expand...

Self protection from having to step over druggies to go get my morning paper. Ever read about what happened to China as a result of Opium? Or how bad cocaine had become in the US in the early part of the last century? F#ck it, I am heading to Iraq in a month anyway. Idiots in Seattle can try and test the federal government if they want..they will find that the DEA and Justice can stomp back hard if they so desire.
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Alcohol and tobacoo have caused more destitution and death than all other drugs combined ... they just have a bigger lobby.
 
I am not sure why the feds always need to come down so hard on MJ , it is not a gateway drug and it has no chemical properties that would cause this effect. Human nature is the gateway not weed. It is human nature to get drunker, higher than last time you did it. I heard 2 Harvard professors on the radio last year explaining a 10 year study they just finished and both stated MJ was less harmful over Drinking or cigs and they are both legal. I'm moving to seattle.
 
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: burnedout
London, UK also follows the same policy - Reuters

I agree with it.
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Great article, I wish the US felt this way. Go after Heroin and Coke, those are truly evil drugs and must be controlled.
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Personally, I'm hoping that Seattle sort of sets a precedence for MJ enforcement in the USA. This may lead to bigger and better things as far as finally escaping the Puritanism surrounding that particular "drug". In my opinion, this MJ war has been going on for far too long.
 
Actually, there is emerging evidence for a mild gateway effect. And contrary to popular mythology MJ is addictive . . . nothing like alcohol and certainly not nicotine . . . but the abuse potential is certainly real. Approximately 1% of the population should avoid MJ b/c it may precipitate a psychotic episode. While about 15% of the population should avoid alcohol.

The money being spent on MJ interdiction/prosecution could provide desperately needed alcohol detox.
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Actually, there is emerging evidence for a mild gateway effect. And contrary to popular mythology MJ is addictive . . . nothing like alcohol and certainly not nicotine . . . but the abuse potential is certainly real. Approximately 1% of the population should avoid MJ b/c it may precipitate a psychotic episode. While about 15% of the population should avoid alcohol.

The money being spent on MJ interdiction/prosecution could provide desperately needed alcohol detox.
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Nothing wrong with a psychotic episode of you know it's just a memory of a repressed trauma trying desparately to be repressed. Letting go is the cure for that.

 
Alcohol and tobacoo have caused more destitution and death than all other drugs combined ... they just have a bigger lobby.
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You hit it on the head. Both are way more destructive than weed IMHO. I think it should be de-criminalized to a certain extent, and more resources devoted to interdicting heroin, coke, and the other nightmarish substances out there that lead to things more severe than junk food.

 
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Self protection from having to step over druggies to go get my morning paper. Ever read about what happened to China as a result of Opium? Or how bad cocaine had become in the US in the early part of the last century? F#ck it, I am heading to Iraq in a month anyway. Idiots in Seattle can try and test the federal government if they want..they will find that the DEA and Justice can stomp back hard if they so desire.
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'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
 
If he's really likening the effects of opium to weed, I don't think sage advice from old Abe is gonna mean much.
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The bottom line is that Seattle is telling the Feds their heads are up their asses and if they want marijuana laws enforced they can do it themselves. The city itself isn't going to waste its money doing so.
 
I?d be curious to know how "conservatives" and "liberals" felt about decriminalizing marijuana vs. legalizing it.

Legalization will never happen.

Personally, I would be in favor of decriminalizing the laws. Pay a modest fine for possession under an oz, and a bit of a stiffer penalty for more than that.

My only concern would be the affect on highway safety.
 
IMO, simple possession is already decriminalized with the exception of idiots like athletes and actors that try to get on planes with their stash. Many MJ charges are byproducts of other offenses. For instance, when cops stop someone for speeding or expired tags and then searches the car and finds some weed. IMHO, anything less than 3oz (which is a whole lot of pot) should get a warning . . . I'm biased towards the "padded baton to the head move" but a Tazer would work as well. Let the guy (or gal) recover, write them a ticket for speeding, tell them to keep their dope at home, and then send them on their way.
 
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