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Seasonic M12D 850W PSU are these frying comuputers?

Nocturnal

Lifer
I'm basically going off of the Newegg.com reviews and there are more than one report indicating that these power supplies are causing electrical problems with it, the power supply, blowing up.

Has anyone here had any experience with this PSU?
 
1) Never trust newegg reviews, many of them are bunk.
-Some people have no idea what they are talking about and blame the PSU for
problems that have nothing to do with the PSU

-Some people are fanboys or shills and just want to give the competition a bad wrap,
look at all the idiots who admit they haven't even bought or recieved a unit and still
give it a review.

2) When they first came out, there may have been a problem, but Seasonic recalled them
all and fixed the problems. There are only two reviews up on newegg and only one of
them mentions a problem, and that review was posted before the recall.
 
Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
1) Never trust newegg reviews, many of them are bunk.
-Some people have no idea what they are talking about and blame the PSU for
problems that have nothing to do with the PSU

-Some people are fanboys or shills and just want to give the competition a bad wrap,
look at all the idiots who admit they haven't even bought or recieved a unit and still
give it a review.

2) When they first came out, there may have been a problem, but Seasonic recalled them
all and fixed the problems. There are only two reviews up on newegg and only one of
them mentions a problem, and that review was posted before the recall.

Yeah -- I heard about that with the new high-power Seasonic M12 model. You wonder what sort of glitch arose in the manufacturing process that caused it: I've got a 550HT, a 650HT and 700 (or is it 750?) M12. They are all stellar.

In the NewEgg cus-reviews, you are also correct, but I've observed before that there are caveats that make them useful.

You can scour serious bench-test reviews -- which I say is mandatory before making decisions -- but it's also good to run a simple descriptive-statistical evaluation on the cus-reviews. Number of respondents in comparison to other models may suggest popularity (and popularity may index reliability or satisfaction). You can get counts filtered to DOA or infant-mortality to see what the percentage of QC-defectives are.

As you might suggest, a 50% 5-star rating with only 20 or 30 reviews could easily be the outcome for a good product purchased by noobs and idiots who don't know what they're doing.
 
Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
1) Never trust newegg reviews, many of them are bunk.
-Some people have no idea what they are talking about and blame the PSU for
problems that have nothing to do with the PSU

-Some people are fanboys or shills and just want to give the competition a bad wrap,
look at all the idiots who admit they haven't even bought or recieved a unit and still
give it a review.

2) When they first came out, there may have been a problem, but Seasonic recalled them
all and fixed the problems. There are only two reviews up on newegg and only one of
them mentions a problem, and that review was posted before the recall.

Words of Wisdom!
 
Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
1) Never trust newegg reviews, many of them are bunk.
-Some people have no idea what they are talking about and blame the PSU for
problems that have nothing to do with the PSU

-Some people are fanboys or shills and just want to give the competition a bad wrap,
look at all the idiots who admit they haven't even bought or recieved a unit and still
give it a review.

2) When they first came out, there may have been a problem, but Seasonic recalled them
all and fixed the problems. There are only two reviews up on newegg and only one of
them mentions a problem, and that review was posted before the recall.

Yeah -- I heard about that with the new high-power Seasonic M12 model. You wonder what sort of glitch arose in the manufacturing process that caused it: I've got a 550HT, a 650HT and 700 (or is it 750?) M12. They are all stellar.

In the NewEgg cus-reviews, you are also correct, but I've observed before that there are caveats that make them useful.

You can scour serious bench-test reviews -- which I say is mandatory before making decisions -- but it's also good to run a simple descriptive-statistical evaluation on the cus-reviews. Number of respondents in comparison to other models may suggest popularity (and popularity may index reliability or satisfaction). You can get counts filtered to DOA or infant-mortality to see what the percentage of QC-defectives are.

As you might suggest, a 50% 5-star rating with only 20 or 30 reviews could easily be the outcome for a good product purchased by noobs and idiots who don't know what they're doing.

Self reported bias makes the sampling unfit to run any statistical evaluation on the dataset.
 
Originally posted by: MrOblivious
Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
1) Never trust newegg reviews, many of them are bunk.
-Some people have no idea what they are talking about and blame the PSU for
problems that have nothing to do with the PSU

-Some people are fanboys or shills and just want to give the competition a bad wrap,
look at all the idiots who admit they haven't even bought or recieved a unit and still
give it a review.

2) When they first came out, there may have been a problem, but Seasonic recalled them
all and fixed the problems. There are only two reviews up on newegg and only one of
them mentions a problem, and that review was posted before the recall.

Yeah -- I heard about that with the new high-power Seasonic M12 model. You wonder what sort of glitch arose in the manufacturing process that caused it: I've got a 550HT, a 650HT and 700 (or is it 750?) M12. They are all stellar.

In the NewEgg cus-reviews, you are also correct, but I've observed before that there are caveats that make them useful.

You can scour serious bench-test reviews -- which I say is mandatory before making decisions -- but it's also good to run a simple descriptive-statistical evaluation on the cus-reviews. Number of respondents in comparison to other models may suggest popularity (and popularity may index reliability or satisfaction). You can get counts filtered to DOA or infant-mortality to see what the percentage of QC-defectives are.

As you might suggest, a 50% 5-star rating with only 20 or 30 reviews could easily be the outcome for a good product purchased by noobs and idiots who don't know what they're doing.

Self reported bias makes the sampling unfit to run any statistical evaluation on the dataset.

Yes -- that, too, is true, and I thought of it just after posting my remarks. People who are "satisfied" may not post at all, and people with DOA units have a burr-in-the-ass incentive to post a flame or two. But, like I said, I look at those reviews only in conjunction with serious benchtest comparisons. They can "suggest" things -- for instance, high review frequency with good ratings.

 
I have personally busted shills in there. The fact that anyone, customer or not, can just wander in and post a random review anonymously makes their review system pretty much worthless with respect to getting accurate reviews. The simply fact that it is there seems to help Newegg but it is too easily exploited.
 
Originally posted by: Yellowbeard
I have personally busted shills in there. The fact that anyone, customer or not, can just wander in and post a random review anonymously makes their review system pretty much worthless with respect to getting accurate reviews. The simply fact that it is there seems to help Newegg but it is too easily exploited.

shills and people who claim to have rubbed their PSU on the carpet on purpose 😉
 
Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
Originally posted by: Yellowbeard
I have personally busted shills in there. The fact that anyone, customer or not, can just wander in and post a random review anonymously makes their review system pretty much worthless with respect to getting accurate reviews. The simply fact that it is there seems to help Newegg but it is too easily exploited.

shills and people who claim to have rubbed their PSU on the carpet on purpose 😉

LMAO...you read that one too???
 
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