Seasonic 500w vs Antec NeoHe 500u

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Howard

Who says you can't use copper wire in modular cables?

I think he meant straight through copper wire as opposed to connectors adding resistance.

Yes, modular connectors create resistance. But that resistance equates to about .03V drop from PCB to load over an 18" wire with a 14A load. So in real world usage, modular connectors do NOT noticeably affect performance.

Despite this, I would still pick the Seasonic over the Antec. It's just a better built product. Even when Antec uses Seasonic as an OEM, it's not the same level of quality as Seasonic building for themselves or even other re-branders (PCP&C, Corsair, etc.)

 

[Saku]

Originally posted by: Rockhound1
Given the choice between the two, I would choose the Seasonic S-12. However, the OP mentioned that he would be using an Antec P-180 case. Because of the configuration of this case, I would select the NeoHE for my PSU. Airflow in the NeoHE is from front to back, which is ideal for the P-180.

The Seasonic draws its cooling air through the bottom of the PSU.

The design of the PSU compartment for the P180 allows for sufficient air to pass around the sides and through the bottom of the PSU. So I don't think that a front to back fan config is necessarily better for this case.

I have the the P180 and just purchased an S12. I was also looking at the 500W NeoHe, but given my prior experience with Antec PSU's, I can no longer put any faith in their quality control.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Isn't the NeoHE made by Seasonic?

Just because the NoeHE is made by seasonic doesn`t mean its the same quality!!
Antec hired Seasonic to make there Neo!1 In doing so Antec basically told seasonic what grade or quality of parts to put in there PSU`s---Neo!!

Thats the reason the NeoHE`s have been having problems!!
It`s not Seasonic`s fault!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Mem

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

Rommel44 makes a valid point,nothing wrong with Modular power supplies in the real world.

If you use a quality brand and prefer them,the fact that most of the top brands now make Modular PSU's proves my point,as to efficiency between them etc,does not really matter providing the PSU in question can handle the full load and remain stable within your hardware,in the real world a lot of people have modular PSU's that work fine with no problems.

Like all things it is all down to your budget and what type/quality brand of PSU you can get for your money,and if it can also handle the task and remain stable within your PC.

Some PSU buyers always go for a higher wattage then needed as well as quality, so it can handle future expansions of added hardware down the road,btw why restrict yourself to those two? Enermax,OCZ and few more brands I can name do some nice quality modular PSUs, if you prefer modular.

Actually it really doesn`t prove your point!!
Modulars are a hot ticket item.....as such companies put out modular PSU`s...

Ask your self why the top 2 or 3 PSU`s don`t even have a model that is modular???

But needless to say a good quality modular will work fine. For the average person!

and btw...YES myocardia does know what he is talking about!!

Then again when jonnyGURU speaks people listen!!!

 

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[OCNewbie]

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[djnsmith7]

I'm definitely not a PSU expert, but I've been reading about a lot of Antec PSU problems lately.

From what I've read & heard, the Seasonic's are of high quality & very reliable. Their power delivery seems to be at the top of the charts as well.

I happen to own an Enermax Liberty 500 & it's doing an awesome job. They're pretty popular around here also.

In terms of modular cabling, I wouldn't go with anything else.

 

[Mem]

Actually it really doesn`t prove your point!!
Modulars are a hot ticket item.....as such companies put out modular PSU`s...

Ask your self why the top 2 or 3 PSU`s don`t even have a model that is modular???

But needless to say a good quality modular will work fine. For the average person!

and btw...YES myocardia does know what he is talking about!!

Then again when jonnyGURU speaks people listen!!!

Just because not all companies make modular PSUs means they are bad,modular PSUs (quality ones) are more then enough for average joe and beyond,the fact that other companies of good reputation can make them says two things,one there is a market for them and two, they are capable of being good PSUs,you think Enermax etc would make a modular PSU that are crap?As to myocardia,nobody said he does knows what he is talking about,but we all take input from more then one person/source and have our own experience and some of us know what we are talking about too.


I just wanted to comment further on quality modular PSUs in the real world,no matter what you think there are some good modular PSUs on the market,nothing can hide that fact, as to JonnyGURU hmmm I never meantioned his name in my post,end of the the day I have a mind of my own and listen to people and read plenty of other sources that have more experience then JonnyGURU and people like you( with all due respect to JonnyGURU).



Read my post again it's still valid,if he wants to buy a modular PSU that is down to him,it's his money his choice,end of the day there're both good quality modular and non modular PSUs around,same goes for if he decides against buying modular PSU,that is fine too.
There are a lot of happy modular users that have more then average joe equipment,I'm not trying to say modular is the best, far from it ,but just saying that a good quality modular PSU is very capable.Don't take my previous post out of context.

.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Mem

Actually it really doesn`t prove your point!!
Modulars are a hot ticket item.....as such companies put out modular PSU`s...

Ask your self why the top 2 or 3 PSU`s don`t even have a model that is modular???

But needless to say a good quality modular will work fine. For the average person!

and btw...YES myocardia does know what he is talking about!!

Then again when jonnyGURU speaks people listen!!!

...as to JonnyGURU hmmm I never meantioned his name in my post,end of the the day I have a mind of my own and listen to people and read plenty of other sources that have more experience then JonnyGURU and people like you( with all due respect to JonnyGURU).

Actually mem, I think he was just addressing that I popped my head in and threw in my 2 cents. Not that I am the keeper of the holy grail or anything.

I didn't think I contradicted your statement, but If you'd like, please read what I posted and let me know if it's ok with your more experienced sources </sarcasm>

Seriously, am I wrong? Of course, I didn't mention the potential of long term corrosion or cables coming loose from people that can't keep their hands out of the insides of their builds (and at least double check their connections) but these are "outside of normal use" scenarios. But don't take my post out of context.

 

[Mem]

Actually mem, I think he was just addressing that I popped my head in and threw in my 2 cents. Not that I am the keeper of the holy grail or anything.

I didn't think I contradicted your statement, but If you'd like, please read what I posted and let me know if it's ok with your more experienced sources </sarcasm>

Actually jonnyGURU I agree with your post ,I was not having a pop at you , but correcting a dark jedi ,was trying to say there are some good quality modular PSUs around, where some people think they are not good enough, maybe if I put a certified by Darth Vader sticker on it,he will be happy .

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Mem

Actually mem, I think he was just addressing that I popped my head in and threw in my 2 cents. Not that I am the keeper of the holy grail or anything.

I didn't think I contradicted your statement, but If you'd like, please read what I posted and let me know if it's ok with your more experienced sources </sarcasm>

Actually jonnyGURU I agree with your post ,I was not having a pop at you , but correcting a dark jedi ,was trying to say there are some good quality modular PSUs around, where some people think they are not good enough .

Yeah... Jedi's funny. Smart guy, but funny. Whatever Doug Dodson says goes. Teapo good. Modular bad. That one man (Dodson, not Jedi) can pour more Kool-Aid than all of the members of DFI-Street combined.

 

[Rommel44]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Mem

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

Rommel44 makes a valid point,nothing wrong with Modular power supplies in the real world.

If you use a quality brand and prefer them,the fact that most of the top brands now make Modular PSU's proves my point,as to efficiency between them etc,does not really matter providing the PSU in question can handle the full load and remain stable within your hardware,in the real world a lot of people have modular PSU's that work fine with no problems.

Like all things it is all down to your budget and what type/quality brand of PSU you can get for your money,and if it can also handle the task and remain stable within your PC.

Some PSU buyers always go for a higher wattage then needed as well as quality, so it can handle future expansions of added hardware down the road,btw why restrict yourself to those two? Enermax,OCZ and few more brands I can name do some nice quality modular PSUs, if you prefer modular.

Actually it really doesn`t prove your point!!
Modulars are a hot ticket item.....as such companies put out modular PSU`s...

Ask your self why the top 2 or 3 PSU`s don`t even have a model that is modular???

But needless to say a good quality modular will work fine. For the average person!

and btw...YES myocardia does know what he is talking about!!

Then again when jonnyGURU speaks people listen!!!

So tell me why should modular PSU like Seasonic M-12 500W be more prone to problem then S-12 500W - which isnt modular. I dont know about any reason why modular PSUs should have more problems - IF you have reliable info that they are less reliable please give us your information.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Rommel44

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Mem

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

Rommel44 makes a valid point,nothing wrong with Modular power supplies in the real world.

If you use a quality brand and prefer them,the fact that most of the top brands now make Modular PSU's proves my point,as to efficiency between them etc,does not really matter providing the PSU in question can handle the full load and remain stable within your hardware,in the real world a lot of people have modular PSU's that work fine with no problems.

Like all things it is all down to your budget and what type/quality brand of PSU you can get for your money,and if it can also handle the task and remain stable within your PC.

Some PSU buyers always go for a higher wattage then needed as well as quality, so it can handle future expansions of added hardware down the road,btw why restrict yourself to those two? Enermax,OCZ and few more brands I can name do some nice quality modular PSUs, if you prefer modular.

Actually it really doesn`t prove your point!!
Modulars are a hot ticket item.....as such companies put out modular PSU`s...

Ask your self why the top 2 or 3 PSU`s don`t even have a model that is modular???

But needless to say a good quality modular will work fine. For the average person!

and btw...YES myocardia does know what he is talking about!!

Then again when jonnyGURU speaks people listen!!!

So tell me why should modular PSU like Seasonic M-12 500W be more prone to problem then S-12 500W - which isnt modular. I dont know about any reason why modular PSUs should have more problems - IF you have reliable info that they are less reliable please give us your information.

Are you arguing with him for the sake of arguing or did you just not read other people's posts?

One more time: A modular connector, simply by it's nature, is going to add resistance. Resistance causes voltages to drop. This resistance is increased as load increases. Some people stop there with the explaination (PC Power and Cooling), but the fact remains that although this resistance exists, it is still minimal. You actually see more resistance when using an adapter or when your power supply has really long wires than when you have a modular connector.

 

[chairbornrangerx]

GIT 'EM!!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Rommel44

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Mem

I just didnt like your answer that modular PSUs are more prone to problems.

Rommel44 makes a valid point,nothing wrong with Modular power supplies in the real world.

If you use a quality brand and prefer them,the fact that most of the top brands now make Modular PSU's proves my point,as to efficiency between them etc,does not really matter providing the PSU in question can handle the full load and remain stable within your hardware,in the real world a lot of people have modular PSU's that work fine with no problems.

Like all things it is all down to your budget and what type/quality brand of PSU you can get for your money,and if it can also handle the task and remain stable within your PC.

Some PSU buyers always go for a higher wattage then needed as well as quality, so it can handle future expansions of added hardware down the road,btw why restrict yourself to those two? Enermax,OCZ and few more brands I can name do some nice quality modular PSUs, if you prefer modular.

Actually it really doesn`t prove your point!!
Modulars are a hot ticket item.....as such companies put out modular PSU`s...

Ask your self why the top 2 or 3 PSU`s don`t even have a model that is modular???

But needless to say a good quality modular will work fine. For the average person!

and btw...YES myocardia does know what he is talking about!!

Then again when jonnyGURU speaks people listen!!!

So tell me why should modular PSU like Seasonic M-12 500W be more prone to problem then S-12 500W - which isnt modular. I dont know about any reason why modular PSUs should have more problems - IF you have reliable info that they are less reliable please give us your information.

Are you arguing with him for the sake of arguing or did you just not read other people's posts?

One more time: A modular connector, simply by it's nature, is going to add resistance. Resistance causes voltages to drop. This resistance is increased as load increases. Some people stop there with the explaination (PC Power and Cooling), but the fact remains that although this resistance exists, it is still minimal. You actually see more resistance when using an adapter or when your power supply has really long wires than when you have a modular connector.

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