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Seagate new drive w/ NCQ available on newegg.com

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zerocool2k

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Just saw it a couple days ago on newegg.com <Link>.
Emailed customer support and they said that it was an unreleased item, and would not be available in 2-3 weeks. Weird!!!
This drive is SATA 7200.7 and has NCQ (new technology). However, they also told me that the only MB that can support this function that they knew of is Asus w/ Intel 5CH6R chipset.
Price ~$115. Anyone plans on trying this?
 
My Nvidia SATA doesn't suport NCQ but either way my next HDD purchase will most likely be seagate because of their 5 year warenty's. It will be awhile before I grab another HDD though. 110 GB's is small compared to many around here but its more than enough for me currenctly. Though getting my aging Maxtor HDD out of my rig which tends to make quite a bit of idle noise might be reason enough to get a seagate anyways.
 
Do you know any way to check if the MB supports NCQ or not?
I don't know exactly what MB type is mine 'cause I have a Dell system. (just know that it is Intel875P chipset)
 
Originally posted by: zerocool2k
Do you know any way to check if the MB supports NCQ or not?
I don't know exactly what MB type is mine 'cause I have a Dell system. (just know that it is Intel875P chipset)
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I think NCQ is going to be implemented in SATA2. Your system won't support that without an add in card.
 
Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
how much of a performance increase is nqc supposed to have for 7200 rpm/8mb drives?
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Pretty much in the new model 7200.8. It's comparable to SATA 10K according to Seagate's experiment. You can read it here.
kenazo, you can find your answer in the link above too.
 
last i saw, NCQ added barely a few percent (3-10). The power / noise / reliability imporvement might be tangible, but not realized yet.

eg
 
Originally posted by: Kenazo
What is NCQ?
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NCQ = Native Command Queuing

Its basically the hard drive being smarter and more efficient about what order it fetches data on the platters. Manufacturers claim that it will give 10000rpm performance out of a 7200 rpm drive, but since it isn't really out yet we'll have to wait and see if thats true.
 
one more thing, do the new seagates coming out soon really need 16 mb cache or is it mainly for marketing?... i meean that's not a little upgrade. they still only read/write at the same speed(excluding NQC help) i know the benchmarks will need to show the real help but just wondering
 
With NCQ support, a larger cache buffer size will definately help. Without NCQ support, additional cache would probably be of negligible benefit.

Think about it - the host can queue up *multiple* I/O requests to the drive, at the burst interface transfer rate, and then the drive drive can release the host and go about performing the I/O operations, in the fastest order that it, and only it, knows how. So generally, both more cache and NCQ support are a good thing, and together, they are a great thing.
 
They say on newegg: "20% performance improvement over previous SATA, 100% software compatible with existing PCs." What a smart sentence, it wasn't implying anything about hardware compatibility. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Auric
Seagate used to be good... until they failed to offer AAM anymore.
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They still do, you just buy it on (PATA) or off (SATA) 🙂. IIRC, there's lawyering involved.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool2k
Do you know any way to check if the MB supports NCQ or not?<BR>I don't know exactly what MB type is mine 'cause I have a Dell system. (just know that it is Intel875P chipset)
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no it doesn't then most likely
 
zerocool2k: Is the drive you linked the correct drive ? Your latter post says that's not the drive, it has not come out yet.

Regards,
Jose
 
Seagate is tEh new hotness in Hard Drives. I work on computers at a hostpital....over 600 of them. Most WD's and Maxtors have been absolute CRAP here lately. Going with Seagate personally now.
 
For those not in the know (like me until a few seconds ago), NCQ = Native Command Queueing.


And it appears that that was already posted. The page hadn't finished loading yet when I clicked Reply initially, and so the scroll bar made the page look really small, thus = no replies. 😱
 
I wanted these drives but couldn't find support for NCQ.

NCQ is part of the SATA II specification, not to be confused with SATA 2.0. Totally different.

I settled on the 200GB non-NCQ Seagate drives from Dell for $106 each. They are FAST!
 
NCQ will work on the new 915 and 925 chipsets from Intel also I believe. Also the NCQ is suposed to work on late model 7200.7 drives - supposed to be an update, but I do not know how to tell from the drive labels. Any ideas when the 7200.8 drives will be released and what the changes will be?

 
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