Sea monster's remains found on Arctic island

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Oslo ? The remains of a prehistoric reptile that was ?as long as a bus, with teeth larger than cucumbers ... in a head that could swallow an adult human whole,? have been discovered on an Arctic island, Norwegian researchers said Thursday.

The University of Oslo's Natural History Museum said researchers on the remote Svalbard islands had discovered the remains of a short-necked plesiosaur, a prehistoric marine reptile. It is believed to be the first complete plesiosaur skeleton ever found.

The 150-million-year-old remains of the 10-metre-long ocean-going predator were found in August.

Fragments of plesiosaur have been found elsewhere, including in England, Russia, and Argentina, but researcher Joern Harald Hurum said the partially fossilized Svalbard find appeared to be the first whole example.


?We are quite sure it is complete,? he said by telephone about the partially buried fossils. ?We have the head, and can see about six metres of vertebrae before it disappears into the ground.?

Prof. Hurum said the voracious plesiosaurs were like the Tyrannosaurus Rex of the oceans, ?except its head is much bigger, about two metres long, compared to about 1.6 metres for Tyrannosaurus Rex.?

Prof. Hurum said his team plans return to Svalbard, 500 kilometres north of Norway's mainland, to continue excavations next year.

Twenty-seven other marine reptiles were also found during a two-week expedition: 21 long-necked plesiosaurs, sea reptiles similar to drawings of the Loch Ness monster, and six ichthyosaurs, reptiles that looked like fish and had fins.

 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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"I wonder what creationists have to say about this?"

:confused:

How does this change anything?
 

wheresmybacon

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fundamentalist retards @ my college used to try to tell me that god put the dinosaur bones there to "test our faith"

i'm not making this up
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
"I wonder what creationists have to say about this?"

:confused:

How does this change anything?

qft. I dont see how this changes a single thing? Fossils are nothing new...
 
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Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll
 

dawnbug

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
"I wonder what creationists have to say about this?"

:confused:

How does this change anything?

That's what I was thinking.
 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
"I wonder what creationists have to say about this?"

:confused:

How does this change anything?

That's what I was thinking.

It doesn't change anything. If you believed that the world was 150 million years old, aka, believing evolutionary creation, then it still would line up. For me, I see a fossil. But I don't want to get into evolution here, that is for P&N.
 

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A fossil was found; what do you expect Creatonists to say?

I demand a Religion board!!!!?!11!1@134

yarr
 

LtPage1

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D
 

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Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.
 

altonb1

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Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.

Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.

Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.

God is so gonna make you go to hell.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.
Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.

Quote from the article: "The 150-million-year-old remains of the 10-metre-long ocean-going predator were found in August."

Respectfully, how do you reconcile your beliefs with this fact? The scientists did not make this up.
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.
Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.

Quote from the article: "The 150-million-year-old remains of the 10-metre-long ocean-going predator were found in August."

Respectfully, how do you reconcile your beliefs with this fact? The scientists did not make this up.

Depends on how accurate you think their dating methods are. *shrug* Everything in science eventually goes through revision.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.
Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.

Quote from the article: "The 150-million-year-old remains of the 10-metre-long ocean-going predator were found in August."

Respectfully, how do you reconcile your beliefs with this fact? The scientists did not make this up.

exactly.. the fundamentalists will say our earth is merely a few thousand years old, and when challenged with fossil evidence of things that scientists dated back millions of years.. a fundamentalist will say carbon dating is flawed, and probably add another 'god made it that way' type of line or something.
hell if i know.. but carbon dating is not flawed. but you can't get that into the mind of a fundamentalist.. they are some of the worst breed alive, as they won't ever let someone challenge them.. they are right, no matter what... and they can't learn through debate because they'll block everything out.
its useless to argue with a fundamentalist.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.
Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.

Quote from the article: "The 150-million-year-old remains of the 10-metre-long ocean-going predator were found in August."

Respectfully, how do you reconcile your beliefs with this fact? The scientists did not make this up.

Depends on how accurate you think their dating methods are. *shrug* Everything in science eventually goes through revision.

I have a reasonable faith that the current dating process is fairly accurate, given the state of technology today. Even if the scientists where off by 50%, that would still mean 75 million years.
 

Greenman

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Drekce
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Is this a thread about a new fossil discovery or was it started as an excuse to bash religion?

OP = Troll

wtf? No way, it wasn't until idiots started posting that this turned into anything antagonistic.

We've been finding prehistoric fossils for centuries. This is just a rare one. You can keep on denying scientific fact all you want, I couldn't care less- this "changes" absolutely nothing.

Neat find, though. Anyone remember that X-Files episode? :D



Now that is funny. If you have to bash creationists in order to solidify your beliefs, go ahead, it won't change my mind. I just ask that you don't resort to lies in the process.

What does this fossil prove? I believe the dinosaurs existed, and I believe there may very well be "dinosaurs" alive on the earth today. I think Plesiosaurs or a close relative still exist today; I think that they are the creature more commponly referred to as the Loch Ness Monster.

I also believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted, and lastly, I don't believe the earth is billions of years old--I believe it is only thousands of years.
Overall, though, the fossil that has been found does nothing to support or contradict any of my beliefs.

Quote from the article: "The 150-million-year-old remains of the 10-metre-long ocean-going predator were found in August."

Respectfully, how do you reconcile your beliefs with this fact? The scientists did not make this up.

I dissagree with your use of the term "fact". It may very well be 150 million years old to the best of their knowledge, but it's not a "fact".
But it's still pretty cool.
 

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Awesome. Thanks for taking a really cool scientific find and turning it into a negative religious debate.