SDNY fingers Trump and his campaign.

[zinfamous]

You hit the real agenda. The Dems have been unable to manufacture/produce any credible evidence that Trump did anything illegal so they are trying to convict him in the court of public opinion. When you have top DOJ officials essentially staging a mutiny against the president, you know that it's looking more and more like a "witch hunt".

Yeah, no evidence against Trump, but wouldn't you agree that Individual #1 is super fucked?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trump may still serve a second term.
New York’s incoming attorney general says she plans to use “every area of the law” to investigate Donald Trump, his family, and his connections for any illegal activity when she takes up her post next month. “We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well,” Letitia James, a Democrat, told NBC News. She will specifically look at any illegal activity in relation to Trump’s real-estate holdings in New York, the Trump Tower meeting with a Russian official in 2016, government subsidies Trump received, and the Trump Foundation. “We want to investigate anyone in his orbit who has, in fact, violated the law,” James said. Meanwhile, Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen is due in a Manhattan courtroom 11 a.m. Tuesday to learn his punishment for dodging taxes, lying to Congress, and violating campaign-finance laws. He stands to get around four years in prison, but his lawyers have argued for leniency because of his cooperation with federal investigators.

 

[dawp]

You hit the real agenda. The Dems have been unable to manufacture/produce any credible evidence that Trump did anything illegal so they are trying to convict him in the court of public opinion. When you have top DOJ officials essentially staging a mutiny against the president, you know that it's looking more and more like a "witch hunt".

were democrats in charge of either the house or senate?

 

[fskimospy]

were democrats in charge of either the house or senate?

Well he’s technically right, all the people who have uncovered criminal behavior by Trump and his campaign have been nonpartisan, career Justice Department officials and federal prosecutors appointed by Trump. It is unclear why this would help his point however.

The Democrats don’t get their shot until January but don’t worry, there’s enough criminal activity to go around.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

AMI has admitted the payments the national enquirer made to the playboy model were to influence the campaign and in coordination with more than one person on the campaign with full knowledge.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

AMI had admitted the payments the national enquirer made to the playboy model were to influence the campaign and in coordination with more than one person on the campaign with full knowledge.

Part of a plea deal so I'd bet that there's a lot more specifics given to prosecutors. Then there's Cohen where the judge went along with the SDNY saying it was Trump who directed Cohen's felonies. That doesn't look good either. Then who knows what the NRA dealin' Russian spy will lead to.

Tick, Tock.

 

[dainthomas]

AMI has admitted the payments the national enquirer made to the playboy model were to influence the campaign and in coordination with more than one person on the campaign with full knowledge.

This would be more than enough for any other president or nearly any other leader in the world.

Certainly orders of magnitude worse than lying about a beej.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

LOL Hannity,

Hannity is trying his ties with Cohen by deleting his Tweets

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Shep Smith and Napolitano- Shit, Trump's ass is done.

 

[Jhhnn]

LOL Hannity,

Hannity is trying his ties with Cohen by deleting his Tweets

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

Cohen? Hardly knew the guy.

 

[K1052]

Very Legal and Very Cool

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Very Legal and Very Cool

I want this read before a judge in Trump's public criminal trial. The SDNY needs to indict Trump.

 

[fskimospy]

I want this read before a judge in Trump's public criminal trial. The SDNY needs to indict Trump.

The more I read about this the more I agree. Trump needs to be indicted before this is all over and let the courts rule. The president should not be above the law.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The more I read about this the more I agree. Trump needs to be indicted before this is all over and let the courts rule. The president should not be above the law.

I've been reading up from a number of sources and indictment in itself may be crucial to how Pence proceeds after Trump's removal from office.

Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon which possibly might have been problematic for him but it was not in any legal way. That's because he pardoned Nixon before any actual criminal indictment was made at the moment he signed off on Nixon. That would be the same for Pence if he was to act under the same circumstances. After all Trump would not have been charged with a crime, just removed through Congress or resignation.

But

The moment Trump is indicted everything changes. Pence would have committed obstruction by the act of pardon in active criminal case. That leaves him open to charges of obstruction and impeachment and perhaps more. Pence isn't as dense as Trump despite his lifeless appearance the other day and so may leave Donnie to hang. This would still apply if the Trump was indicted but not prosecuted until after he leaves office.

 

[K1052]

Trump in an interview on Fox claims that Cohen mostly did PR work for him. Imagine the facepalms of his lawyers who would try to keep Cohen materials that were seized under attorney client privilege.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trump in an interview on Fox claims that Cohen mostly did PR work for him. Imagine the facepalms of his lawyers who would try to keep Cohen materials that were seized under attorney client privilege.

Apparently the statement of "advice of counsel" on Twitter almost certainly voids any privilege Trump claimed. That means every bit of evidence withheld by a court appointed screener is now fair game.

I expect that the SDNY/Mueller are formalizing requests for those communications as we speak.

 

[VRAMdemon]

So his expert legal analysis is that Cohen pleaded guilty to something that’s not a crime, and the courts were perfectly OK with that. Gotcha.

 

[K1052]

Apparently the statement of "advice of counsel" on Twitter almost certainly voids any privilege Trump claimed. That means every bit of evidence withheld by a court appointed screener is now fair game.

I expect that the SDNY/Mueller are formalizing requests for those communications as we speak.

That seems to be a distinct possibility. At no point does Trump's obsession with the idea that he can simply talk his way out of this seem to have improved his legal position, quite the opposite.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That seems to be a distinct possibility. At no point does Trump's obsession with the idea that he can simply talk his way out of this seem to have improved his legal position, quite the opposite.

There's so many holes in Trump's defense it's like a fishing net trying to stop a hurricane.

WAPO had a piece saying that Mueller can keep his report from being buried by not indicting Trump directly but sending a list of what Mueller considers indictable crimes. At that point the AG can choose to indict and memos no longer matter, or he can refuse BUT at that point Congressional oversight review kicks in and they get everything, absolutely unredacted. The House has everything at its fingertips as is its right and duty to explore and then the Dems could make it completely public, everything that doesn't threaten investigative methods and sources, but the crimes themselves are plain to see.

 

[UNCjigga]

Saw something on CNN about a new poll that shows support for impeaching Trump amongst Independents is dropping. With all the recent revelations...WTF? Either this poll is off, or America really deserves Trump.

 

[Jhhnn]

What it all comes down to is whether or not Trump's crimes can be forgiven as we saw in Clinton's impeachment & trial.

Can McConnell sell that, or will he even try?

Meanwhile, the wicked Nancy & her evil minions are plotting against the Precious, the Donald. Oh, yes they are. Justice demands it.

 

[K1052]

President Trump’s former lawyer and fixer Michael D. Cohen said he knew arranging payments during the campaign to quiet two women who claimed to have had affairs with the candidate was wrong. He said Mr. Trump knew it was wrong at the time, too.

“Of course,” Mr. Cohen said, when asked by the ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos whether the president was fully aware of what his lawyer was doing. The interview aired Friday morning.

Since he took office, Mr. Trump has maintained that there was “no collusion” between his campaign and Russia. In the interview, Mr. Cohen was asked whether the president was telling the truth about “everything related to the investigation, everything related to Russia.”

“No,” Mr. Cohen said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/us/politics/trump-cohen-interview.html

Were I the President's lawyers I'd probably be real worried about the raft of information the FBI seized from Cohen and Trump's clumsy attempts to distance himself that could threaten privilege.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It also doesn't help his case that "somebody on Twitter" effectively admitted in tweets that the payments were done with his knowledge and direction. But it was okay because if he shouldn't have done that, it was all his lying lawyer's fault.

The symbol of the Trump presidency is a red baseball cap with "NO ADMISSION OF WRONGDOING" written on it in white.

 

[fskimospy]

It also doesn't help his case that "somebody on Twitter" effectively admitted in tweets that the payments were done with his knowledge and direction. But it was okay because if he shouldn't have done that, it was all his lying lawyer's fault.

The symbol of the Trump presidency is a red baseball cap with "NO ADMISSION OF WRONGDOING" written on it in white.

It’s going to come down to either Trump is fucked or we as a country are fucked. If Trump isn’t held accountable that means it’s okay to commit felonies to win the presidency because then you are immune from the consequences.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It’s going to come down to either Trump is fucked or we as a country are fucked. If Trump isn’t held accountable that means it’s okay to commit felonies to win the presidency because then you are immune from the consequences.

Yeah, It's hard to explain how Trump himself is shielded from legal recourse if his stooge is going to jail for what he was told to do.. However the DOJ appears to be of the current opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. I keep seeing "Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator." So the hitch is they just aren't going after him while president. It probably will have to happen when he leaves office. Even if he does time it won't be in a PMITA prison. If anything, as it stands now, a deal will be made in exchange for his resignation. I hope I'm wrong.