Scumbag ISP's Filtering VoIP providers

[bloodthirster]

Well I received Vonage yesterday went to hook it up today and nothing... Dead phone line. After waiting on hold I thought to myself I wonder if Speednetllc (mid michigan) is filtering the VoIP. So I hang up and call Speednet. Guess what? filthy scumbag money mongers are filtering VoIP ports and for $9.95 a month they can turn the filter off.... Anyone else think this is a sleezy move?

 

[mordantmonkey]

definitely sleazy, possibly illegal. Change providers. oh and make sure to bad mouth them on DSLreports. also review your contract with them to see if they actual mentioned they would do this.

 

[everman]

I think there was a legal dispute about something similar recently, if anyone can find it?
Call or write a nice letter to your state attorney general.

I found it. Let them know about the $15,000 fine from the FCC. And don't just switch providers, contact the FCC too.

 

[UNCjigga]

DSL = we want you to pay Ma Bell for your phone service, thank you very much.

I wouldn't be surprised if cable cos jump on the filtering bandwagon too, though, now that they offer their own digital phone service.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: everman
I think there was a legal dispute about something similar recently, if anyone can find it?
Call or write a nice letter to your state attorney general.

I found it. Let them know about the $15,000 fine from the FCC. And don't just switch providers, contact the FCC too.

:thumbsup:

might want to contact your VoIP provider about this as well. i'm sure they'll find it in their interest to complain about it too.

 

[0roo0roo]

keep land line for 911

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
keep land line for 911

or just make sure you register your address for 911 service.

 

[labgeek]

Yep - remind them about the FCC fines... And I'd let Vonage know too. Vonage has been complaining to the FCC about this.

 

[bloodthirster]

OK... I e-mailed FCC and Vonage. We will see if anyone responds. A $15,000 fine would hurt a small ISP like Speednetllc.

 

[Turkish]

Is it me or every fvckin ISP in this country full of sh!t? We pay high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth and then get raped on bullsh!t filters like these. Ridiculous.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: bloodthirster
OK... I e-mailed FCC and Vonage. We will see if anyone responds. A $15,000 fine would hurt a small ISP like Speednetllc.

cool, let us know what you get back from them. It irrates the hell out of me that they would try to exort money from their customers.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: The Boss
Is it me or every fvckin ISP in this country full of sh!t? We pay high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth and then get raped on bullsh!t filters like these. Ridiculous.

yeap they want you to buy service but not to use it.

 

[Shawn]

what's VoIP?

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Shawn
what's VoIP?

Vagina over IP.

 

[randal]

Originally posted by: The Boss
Is it me or every fvckin ISP in this country full of sh!t? We pay high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth and then get raped on bullsh!t filters like these. Ridiculous.

I think the filtering is also horrible, but "high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth" is -NOT- the fault of the ISPs. It is the fault of the carriers. Consider that a T1 costs ~$500 almost anywhere in the US. Consider that your cable modem costs ~$50. Then consider that your cable modem is TWICE AS FAST as the T1, for 1/10th the cost.

If you think that -You're- getting screwed on bandwidth, talk to your ISP. I'm sure that they pay upwards of $3000 for a full DS3 (loop + bandwidth) -- which provides for a whopping 15 customers. $3000 in costs for an awesome $750 in revenue ... hence oversubscription, bandwidth caps, dare I say filters. The real problem is that the residential user bitches and complains while being ignorant of the real problem -- that the ISP is getting shafted by the Bells.

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
keep land line for 911

or just make sure you register your address for 911 service.

What if your broadband signal goes out and your house is being burglarized? How would you make a 911 call?

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: The Boss

Originally posted by: Shawn
what's VoIP?

Vagina over IP.

Hah .....
Excellent response .....

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: randal

Originally posted by: The Boss
Is it me or every fvckin ISP in this country full of sh!t? We pay high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth and then get raped on bullsh!t filters like these. Ridiculous.

I think the filtering is also horrible, but "high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth" is -NOT- the fault of the ISPs. It is the fault of the carriers. Consider that a T1 costs ~$500 almost anywhere in the US. Consider that your cable modem costs ~$50. Then consider that your cable modem is TWICE AS FAST as the T1, for 1/10th the cost.

If you think that -You're- getting screwed on bandwidth, talk to your ISP. I'm sure that they pay upwards of $3000 for a full DS3 (loop + bandwidth) -- which provides for a whopping 15 customers. $3000 in costs for an awesome $750 in revenue ... hence oversubscription, bandwidth caps, dare I say filters. The real problem is that the residential user bitches and complains while being ignorant of the real problem -- that the ISP is getting shafted by the Bells.

Interesting......

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
keep land line for 911

or just make sure you register your address for 911 service.

What if your broadband signal goes out and your house is being burglarized? How would you make a 911 call?

What if the burglar cut the phone line, how would you make a 911 call. Get a damn cell phone, that's how. A land line sucks just as bad as cable can.

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
What if your broadband signal goes out and your house is being burglarized? How would you make a 911 call?

What happens if your house is being burglarized and you home phone isn't working?

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: randal

Originally posted by: The Boss
Is it me or every fvckin ISP in this country full of sh!t? We pay high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth and then get raped on bullsh!t filters like these. Ridiculous.

I think the filtering is also horrible, but "high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth" is -NOT- the fault of the ISPs. It is the fault of the carriers. Consider that a T1 costs ~$500 almost anywhere in the US. Consider that your cable modem costs ~$50. Then consider that your cable modem is TWICE AS FAST as the T1, for 1/10th the cost.

If you think that -You're- getting screwed on bandwidth, talk to your ISP. I'm sure that they pay upwards of $3000 for a full DS3 (loop + bandwidth) -- which provides for a whopping 15 customers. $3000 in costs for an awesome $750 in revenue ... hence oversubscription, bandwidth caps, dare I say filters. The real problem is that the residential user bitches and complains while being ignorant of the real problem -- that the ISP is getting shafted by the Bells.

interesting...

oh heck, why do i care... i am moving to turkey on july 3rd, and germany on october 3rd so i don't really care...

 

[DurocShark]

OMG!!! WHAT IF FLYING PIGS FLEW OUT OF THE BURGLAR'S BUTT WHILE CUTTING YOUR PHONE LINE AND STEALING THE SIM CARD FROM YOUR CELL PHONE?!?!?!?!

 

[Night201]

keep us updated!

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
OMG!!! WHAT IF FLYING PIGS FLEW OUT OF THE BURGLAR'S BUTT WHILE CUTTING YOUR PHONE LINE AND STEALING THE SIM CARD FROM YOUR CELL PHONE?!?!?!?!

Bacon, hmmm....yummm.......

 

[frankgomez75]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: frankgomez75

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
keep land line for 911

or just make sure you register your address for 911 service.

What if your broadband signal goes out and your house is being burglarized? How would you make a 911 call?

What if the burglar cut the phone line, how would you make a 911 call. Get a damn cell phone, that's how. A land line sucks just as bad as cable can.

I was asking a simple question as to what steps does a VOIP company take in the event that their is an outage. I guess you should have a backup phone like a cell, but then why bother have both a cell phone and VOIP?

I guess I'm used to only using my cell phone as I don't have a landline or VOIP. I live by myself. Guess VOIP is not something I would need or even see as a need. I'll stick to my cell phone only plan.