SCSI Hard drive problem please help

[Script917]

I am trying to set up a scsi drive up as a boot drive. I bought it second hand and think it is set to some wired jumper settings. I took some pictures.

Picture 1
This picture is of the jumper diagram on the front of the hard drive.

Picture 2
This picture is what the jumpers are set to.


It recognizes the drive but says that it cannot access it. If I try to delete partition or install it errors saying it can not access it.

Picture 3

What do I need to set the jumpers at to make it a regular bootable "C" drive?

FYI it is a Fujitsu U160 68Pin 15K 18GB SCSI Hard Drive (MAM3184MP)

 

[mechBgon]

First of all, what brand & model of SCSI card do you have? Do you have an LVD cable and an LVD terminator?

 

[Script917]

My card is a "LSI Logic PCI to Ultra160 Single Channel SCSI Card, Model "LSIU160" "

And I have a regular ultra 160 68pin cable with a built in terminator at the end. Not sure what LVD means.

 

[mechBgon]

Low Voltage Differential. That's a good card, I have one myself Look at the terminator, and the cable, do they happen to say LVD on them? They probably are LVD, it's just nice to confirm stuff.

If you could take a photo of the screen that the LSI card displays while it's detecting drives, that might yield some insights. Looking at the jumpering, the SCSI ID doesn't matter as long as it isn't set to 7 (which is for the SCSI card itself). You want terminator power enabled, which is the one at the right end, and it's the Narrow/Wide one that I will have to go look up at Fujitsu's site (although a pic of the LSI's detection screen might shed the same light on it).

Good :camera:'s there, by the way

 

[Script917]

Ok I confirmed, yes it is a LVD cable.

I think this is the screen you requested.

Picture

 

[mechBgon]

Ooops, hang on a moment... error...

 

[mechBgon]

Ok, I had my brain on upside down I have the jumper diagram but I failed to notice that Pins 1 & 2 are the ones at the right in your photo of the underside of the drive. Try taking off all the jumpers from the pins except the jumper that's on the leftmost pins, and run WinXP Setup real quick and see if it's got the go-ahead now.

 

[Script917]

OK give me a sec

 

[mechBgon]

One other thing: if you have any ATA drives in the system during Windows Setup, or a USB card reader, then unplug them from the mobo during Setup or they may snag C: and your SCSI drive could end up with a leftover drive letter instead of C:

 

[Zepper]

Here is the jumper settings page for your drive: MAM Series. I would set it to an id of 0 (zero), usually best for the boot drive (and is often the adapter default), so you want jumpers on pins 11/12 and 23/24 only. And remove the crossways jumper too unless you are sure those are both ground pins (or otherwise common). That should do it.

. When you next boot, go into the SCSI adapter setup and setup the adapter and device 0 settings to match per the adapter manual. Run the media test in the adapter's BIOS setup just for grins. If you have no manual or drivers, you can get them from http://www.lsi.com as you may need to have XP pick up drivers from a floppy while booting (press F6, I think, when requested). The adapter manual should tell you whether XP will need to load drivers during Setup or if it already has them.

. Go to http://www.scsifaq.org for lots of good scsi info and links.

.bh.

:moon:

 

[mechBgon]

 

[Zepper]

Don't read my old messages - already edited...
.bh.

:moon:

 

[Script917]

Ok I did as you said and am having the same problem. Only this time instead of it saying
disk 0 at id 1 on bus 0 it says
disk 0 at id 0 on bus 0. (See picture 3 n first post)

When I push enter to install I get this error.

Picture

 

[Zepper]

Bad link...

 

[mechBgon]

Big picture for a second: do you hear 15000rpms worth of SCSI goodness spooling up? The motor's running?

 

[Script917]

I think I hear a high pitch squeal. And on and off crunching form the hd.

 

[Zepper]

See the little diagram of the LED next to the ID pins in his Pic 1 of the top post? Well that LED looks like it's to the left of the row of pins in Pic 2. IAC, if you go by the pin numbers, then the info in my post above is still correct. and I have to hit the sack now - hope you get it fingered out...
.bh.

:moon:

 

[Script917]

Ok I made a little picture. The pins circled are the only ones that should be in right?

Picture

BTW I fixed the pic a few posts up

 

[Script917]

One more thing. I got the scsi card a oem so I don?t have the manual. And lsi.com is useless.

I just wanted to tell you so you know I haven?t tried that yet.

EDIT. Should i take jumper of of pins 23/24 since i their is a terminator on my cable?

 

[Zepper]

If those are 11/12 and 23/24, then yes - there should be numbers printed on the PCB at least on the pin-1 end and maybe at both ends. Where is the LED that is pictured on the label in your first pic in the top post - is it to the left or right of the block of pins in your last pic? It looks to be on the left to me, but I could be wrong - I don't see anything that looks like an LED near the right end.
.bh.


Sorry, that should have been: http://www.lsilogic.com

:moon:

 

[mechBgon]

You could try that, yeah. I believe the card itself will provide terminator power if the drive isn't doing it. So try no jumpers whatsoever.

As for the orientation, the line drawing of the drive in Fujitsu's thing says Pins 1 & 2 are the ones furthest from the edge of the drive, the ones at the right in your photos. So their block diagram of the pins would make sense if the drive were laid bottom-up (with the pins facing towards you), or if I flip my monitor upside-down

 

[Script917]

I can't find an LED on it for the life of me. But according to the link you gave earlier of the gave a diagram of where pin one is. According to that yes that is how I have it set up.

Could the problem be in the card? This is a newegg review.

"GrimBeaver,3/13/2004 10:20:44 AM
I replaced my old Adaptec 2940UW with this. Only trouble was that I had to install it along with the adaptec and let Windows XP load the drivers before I was able to use it for the boot device. Afte... See complete review>
I replaced my old Adaptec 2940UW with this. Only trouble was that I had to install it along with the adaptec and let Windows XP load the drivers before I was able to use it for the boot device. After getting the drivers loaded I could remove the adaptec and move the drives to the new controller. Working fine now. Thank God too cause I really didn't want to format"

Could this be my problem??

 

[mechBgon]

The card is fine, I've used it to set up WinXP myself. No fuss, no drivers on floppy, just plug & play.

 

[Zepper]

You could run into a problem if you don't jumper at least pins 11/12 for self starting unless the card is already setup to send the drive the start signal - catch 22...
.bh.

 

[Zepper]

There is a little silvery block on the PCB just to the left of the jumpers in Pic 2 that has a little bit of green sticking up in the middle - looks like an LED from here...
.bh.

Night night.