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`Scrounging' for Iraq war puts GIs in jail

maddogchen

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Six reservists, including two veteran officers who had received Bronze Stars, were court-martialed for what soldiers have been doing as long as there have been wars--scrounging to get what their outfit needed to do its job in Iraq (news - web sites).

Darrell Birt, one of those court-martialed for theft, destruction of Army property and conspiracy to cover up the crimes, had been decorated for his "initiative and courage" for leading his unit's delivery of fuel over the perilous roads of Iraq in the war's first months.


Now, Birt, 45, who was a chief warrant officer with 656th Transportation Company, based in Springfield, Ohio, and his commanding officer find themselves felons, dishonorably discharged and stripped of all military benefits.


The 656th played a crucial role in maintaining the gasoline supply that fueled everything from Black Hawk helicopters to Bradley Fighting Vehicles between Balad Airfield and Tikrit. The reservists in the company proudly boast that their fuel was in the vehicles driven by the 4th Infantry Division soldiers who found Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) hiding in a hole last year.


But when Birt's unit was ordered to head into Iraq in the heat of battle in April 2003 from its base in Kuwait, Birt said the company didn't have enough vehicles to haul the equipment it would need to do the job.


So, Birt explained, he and other reservists grabbed two tractors and two trailers left in Kuwait by other U.S. units that had already moved into Iraq.


Several weeks later, Birt and other reservists scrounged a third vehicle, an abandoned 5-ton cargo truck, and stripped it for parts they needed for repair of their trucks.


"We could have gone with what we had, but we would not have been able to complete our mission," said Birt, who was released from the brig on Oct. 17 and is petitioning for clemency in hope that he can return to the reserves.


"I admit that what we did was technically against the rules, but it wasn't for our own personal gain. It was so we could do our jobs."



The thefts mirror countless stories of shifty appropriation that has been memorialized in books and films as a wartime skill. Birt and other reservists in the unit said that what the prosecutors called theft was simply resourcefulness, a quality they say is abundant among soldiers in Iraq.


While in confinement, Birt had a chat with a military police officer who was puzzled by why Birt was in the brig. The MP, a guard, told Birt that his unit had "acquired" a Humvee in a similar fashion.


Equipment shortages have become a concern, and soldiers are expressing growing frustration about them. On Monday, the military announced it would not court-martial the 23 reservists who balked at transporting fuel in Iraq because their vehicles were in poor condition and lacked armor, and on Wednesday, soldiers complained to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld about the lack of armor for vehicles.


In addition to the six in the 656th who were court-martialed, eight others in the unit were given non-judicial punishment, including fines, pay reduction and loss in rank.


The commanding officer of the company, Maj. Cathy Kaus, 46, was sentenced to 6 months in jail and fined $5,000 for her part in the thefts. She is scheduled to be released from the Naval Consolidated Brig Miramar in San Diego on Christmas Day after serving most of her sentence.



Kaus and Birt chose to be tried by a military judge rather than a panel that would have included fellow soldiers, and they waived the formal investigation.


An Army spokeswoman said Friday that the Army does not comment on specific cases. But she noted that the military's judicial process allows those who are court-martialed to apply for clemency.


The severity of the punishments was surprising to many members of the company, who regularly saw off-the-books trading and thefts of military property in Iraq by troops in other units.

Surprised by severity

Even Lt. Col. Christopher Wicker, the former commanding officer of the battalion overseeing the 656th who ordered the investigation of the thefts, said he was shocked by the hefty penalties.

"Circumstances at [the] time, however, made these acts less serious than if done in a peacetime garrison environment," Wicker said in a letter supporting clemency for Birt. "The sentences . . . are too harsh given the situation during the initial drive north of Baghdad in April 2003, and the limited flow of repair parts that existed April-September 2003."


Theft of military equipment is legendary among American war veterans, and the act has its own lexicon. In past wars some called it "scrounging," while others called it "midnight requisitions" and "liberating supplies," said writer and Vietnam War veteran Robert Vaughan.

Military bureaucracy combined with the reality of warfare has long made "scrounging" a necessity for soldiers trying to get a job done, Vaughan said. Stealing is justified, he said, because everything being taken is U.S. government property and is being used toward the war effort.

He recalled that while his unit was serving in a remote area in Vietnam, headquarters in Saigon repeatedly denied his unit's request for high-power generators because it said there were none in stock. But on previous trips to Saigon, Vaughan had seen dozens of generators stacked in a holding area at headquarters.

Frustrated, he drove to Saigon one afternoon, posed as a captain from another unit and gave a guard a forged requisition to get the generators.

"I was the greatest scrounger in the Vietnam War," said Vaughan, who has a war novel to be published in January in which the protagonist is an expert at stealing equipment for his unit. "If you did something that is not for your own personal gain, your higher-ups tended to protect you from getting into any trouble for it."

The problems for the 656th started days before the company was to move into Iraq. The company had only two cargo trucks to haul six containers filled with tools, spare parts, ammunition, biological-chemical protective wear and other supplies.

Kaus, the commander of the 656th, said that officers with the 544th Maintenance Battalion, whose command her company fell under, informed her the day before their scheduled push into Iraq that they could not provide her company support in moving the company's six containers. She said she discussed the problem with Birt and her other chief warrant officer, and the two told her they could solve it.

Just deal with it

Kaus said in a telephone interview that she told the men "to do what they had to do" to move their supplies, but she did not tell them to steal equipment.

Birt said he inferred that they had her permission to take the vehicles. The other chief warrant officer, Christopher Parriman, was not charged in the thefts and left Iraq because of a medical disability before the investigation began. Parriman declined to comment.

Kaus said Birt and Parriman initially told her they had permission to take the vehicles from another unit. She said she learned in late May or early June of 2003 that the vehicles were stolen, but at that point the trucks had become an integral part of the unit's regular fuel convoys.

"These were vehicles that were not going to be used by the unit that originally owned them, and they had become an important part in allowing us to deliver 40,000 to 50,000 gallons of fuel a day," said Kaus, who was awarded a Bronze Star for effectively leading the unit.

Kaus also said she could not determine which unit the trucks belonged to, so she could not return them. In fact, the vehicles and trailers in question were never reported stolen, according to transcripts of court-martial proceedings.

In a meeting with 656th officers and leaders of other companies under his command in June 2003, Wicker, the 544th Maintenance battalion commander, asked the officers if they had any equipment that did not belong to them. Kaus and the other officers said nothing, Wicker said.

No one mentioned the stolen property, Wicker and others said, until a disgruntled soldier, Sgt. Charles Neely, reported the unit to Wicker as the company was preparing to end its tour and return to Ohio. Neely, who also took part in the theft of one of the trucks, was reduced to private as part of his sentence. Neely lives in Ohio; he declined to comment.

Wicker, who had heard stories from relatives about scrounging in Vietnam, said he was more bothered that the officers did not admit having the equipment when asked and that they dismantled the 5-ton cargo truck. He said he understood the rationale for stealing the equipment, but he did not agree with it.

In the first several months of the Iraq war, the supply line moved at a glacial pace. Obtaining even basic parts to repair vehicles took as long as six weeks, said Robert Chalmers, who had been a sergeant with the 656th. He received a court-martial for stripping the cargo truck for spare parts and disposing of its frame.

Sitting in his kitchen in Greenville, Ohio, Chalmers recalled the rocket attacks, bomb explosions and small-arms fire his company faced on the road between Tikrit and Balad.

He laughed about his eagerness to head to Iraq. Anticipating that his company was going to be called up, he took two weeks off from work as an electrician to get gear ready before the unit's soldiers received official word that they would be going.

Other reservists' penalties

Chalmers said their actions were technically wrong, but he felt the importance of the company's mission justified the thefts. During the company's year in Iraq, members of the 656th drove more than 1.2 million miles and delivered about 33 million gallons of fuel.

Chalmers was reduced to a specialist as part of his sentence. Of the other two reservists who were court-martialed, one received a jail sentence, and the second was punished but not jailed.

The situation has left Chalmers in debt and bitter. His wife, Tina, said she had to borrow against her retirement savings to pay his $20,000 in legal fees.

"We were sent to Iraq without what we needed," said Chalmers, who has spent 15 years on active or reserve duty.. "If they don't make that decision to get the vehicles we needed, we are worse off and can't do our mission. If we don't do our mission, those tanks at the front stand still."


For Birt and Kaus, the court-martial and confinements are a devastating end to long and successful military careers. Both are holding onto a thin thread of hope that they will be granted clemency by Lt. Gen. Thomas Metz, commander of the multinational forces in Iraq, so their benefits will be reinstated and they will have a chance to continue their military careers.

Birt and Kaus were dishonorably discharged, and unless they receive clemency, they lose all military benefits, including the right to have the U.S. flag draped on their coffins.

This month, Birt received a certified letter from the trucking company he worked for as a shop foreman, telling him that it could no longer employ him because of his felony conviction. Kaus said her employer, sporting goods manufacturer Huffy Corp., has informed her that it is unlikely she will be allowed to come back to work because of her conviction.


Kaus said her anger has subsided, and she is trying to move on with her life.

"My family and friends remind me how fortunate we are that everyone of us [in the 656th] made it out of Iraq in one piece," she said.

For Birt, the end to his military career has been jolting.

"I don't have any regrets," Birt said. "I am proud of the work we did serving our country. If I could get back in the reserves, I would go back to Iraq in a second."
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All I can say is wow...
 
If we have honorable soldiers trying to do their job in Iraq getting jacked, what are we going to do? Is this the way Bush + Co wants to fight their war? I don't understand why we havne't heard anything from the administration about incidents like these.
 
Originally posted by: Taejin
If we have honorable soldiers trying to do their job in Iraq getting jacked, what are we going to do? Is this the way Bush + Co wants to fight their war? I don't understand why we havne't heard anything from the administration about incidents like these.

This is not an issue that started with Bush. This has been going on ever since there was an Army. Any Army.

The bureaucracy and pencil dicked dip dunks that run it have always been at war with the front line troops or those who "stand out" or those who don't do everything "By The Book".

They have no concept of war or the concept of what it takes to wage a war with what you have and not what you would like to have. What they understand is; Do you have form H-11-156 filled out for your request? No? Get in line. Oh you're bleeding to death while you wait and your buddies are in deep sh!t behind enemy lines and you need the gear now? Too bad you wait your turn in line and be ecstatic when it's your turn.

It's fvcking disgusting to watch. This has been ongoing forever and there's no end in sight.

You need massive reforms in the military if you want the bureaucracy to keep up with the troops. We are talking about a military that has very deep rooted bureaucracy where to them "massive change" means they got this years model calculator and a new filing cabinet.
 
There is a term for the soldiers who convicted these troops who were doing their jobs. We called them REMF's with stress on the MF part! I hope some political white knight comes to the rescue this time. These guys didn't even steal the stuff, they simply relocated it. It was still unser US Army control.
 
I think Aelius is correct. I don't blame this incident on Bush or Rumsfield, but it is certainly something they could (and should) step in and correct-especially now that it is out in the public.

Incidents like this and the back door draft make volunteering for the Guard a really questionable decision.
 
well, im sure they will feel better when they drive around and see all those "support our troops" magnets.
 
Incidents like this and the back door draft make volunteering for the Guard a really questionable decision.

They're not worried. They pay phat signup bonuses, spend 14K per recruit in false advertising, and hit poverty stricken areas to full-fill thier quotas no problemo.

PS - Volunteers don't get paid.
 
Originally posted by: Thump553Incidents like this and the back door draft make volunteering for the Guard a really questionable decision.

Agreed. I was seriously considering signing up for the Guard after I graduated from college. Now, I don't think I will be.
 
This isn't the full story. I assure you that this isn't an odd occurance and that for this kind of action to be taken against the soldiers... there is more to the story.
 
How the ell is this a Bush thing except in a wigged out liberal mind? This is simple REMF crap that was going on way back when I was in. I was busted for parking with a WAC in a secure area on my radar site in 1967 by a REMF. It was where we parked all the time, but they were out to get someone and roped me in too. This is just bureaucratic BS and goes on in government every day. What we need to do is fire all of the seasoned bureaucrats in government and get a fresh start. The problem with doing that is like the janitor that wanted job security, they have hidden all of the brooms.
 
Wow, I am blown away with this.... I am not surprised but rather shocked to read that of all people th emilitary would persue charges...... Forget that it is the Army, the commanding officer should have his head examined.....

I have come to terms that the US government doesn't really care what goes on in country, but at least in some sort of wierd way we could count on the Military leadership........

Everyone for themselves..........
 
In America we call these men Heroes.. we make movies out of stories like this .. where the men and women ARE AT WAR and are forced to improvise and do all they can to make sure their mission is a success...

"dishonorably discharged" 🙁


Nice way to spit on the troops who are actually volunteering...
 
This is indeed disheartening. We are fighting a war that will not end anytime soon. Soldiers are doing whatever they can to help us win this war and our country slaps them down because they didn't file the paperwork. No amount of paperwork will matter if we lose this glorious country of ours. Hypocritical chumps we have in office with no real conception of honor and duty.
 
Imagine this: you are a farmer, what brings food to the table is your work, it requires a tractor, some idiot steals your tractor, now you can't feed your family.

Is it a big deal?

Being a soldier does not mean that you can steal any vehicle you find to do your job, especially not if you are in a non-war zone getting into a war zone, what SHOULD have been obvious is that no idiot will send a troop, without the means to get there, into warfare.

This war in Iraq has been so extremely miscalculated from the cic to the soldier on the ground that anyone who knows anything understands it.

Sending troops into warfare without providing the neccessary equipment is the sign of desperate actions.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Imagine this: you are a farmer, what brings food to the table is your work, it requires a tractor, some idiot steals your tractor, now you can't feed your family.

Is it a big deal?

Being a soldier does not mean that you can steal any vehicle you find to do your job, especially not if you are in a non-war zone getting into a war zone, what SHOULD have been obvious is that no idiot will send a troop, without the means to get there, into warfare.

This war in Iraq has been so extremely miscalculated from the cic to the soldier on the ground that anyone who knows anything understands it.

Sending troops into warfare without providing the neccessary equipment is the sign of desperate actions.

Uh, didn't the stuff they "stole" belong to the US army already, just not those particular soldiers? That's what I got from the article.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Imagine this: you are a farmer, what brings food to the table is your work, it requires a tractor, some idiot steals your tractor, now you can't feed your family.

Is it a big deal?

Being a soldier does not mean that you can steal any vehicle you find to do your job, especially not if you are in a non-war zone getting into a war zone, what SHOULD have been obvious is that no idiot will send a troop, without the means to get there, into warfare.

This war in Iraq has been so extremely miscalculated from the cic to the soldier on the ground that anyone who knows anything understands it.

Sending troops into warfare without providing the neccessary equipment is the sign of desperate actions.

they used vehicles that belonged to the us army, and were already abandoned

second, they were sent WITHOUT the materials needed, so by your definition, it's a sign of desperate actions.
 
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Imagine this: you are a farmer, what brings food to the table is your work, it requires a tractor, some idiot steals your tractor, now you can't feed your family.

Is it a big deal?

Being a soldier does not mean that you can steal any vehicle you find to do your job, especially not if you are in a non-war zone getting into a war zone, what SHOULD have been obvious is that no idiot will send a troop, without the means to get there, into warfare.

This war in Iraq has been so extremely miscalculated from the cic to the soldier on the ground that anyone who knows anything understands it.

Sending troops into warfare without providing the neccessary equipment is the sign of desperate actions.

they used vehicles that belonged to the us army, and were already abandoned

second, they were sent WITHOUT the materials needed, so by your definition, it's a sign of desperate actions.

1. sorry about that, i read it wrong.

2 desperate actions result in more casualties on both sides, it is not something that the US should even have to consider against Iraq. The superiority is overwhelming but the insurgents are not losing this war.

In 20 years there will still be insurgents, how long will it take for the US to realize that fighting ideologies/religion is a hopeless cause?

The very best anyone can hope for is another Israel/palestine situation in the ME, the worst and most likely situation is full blown civil war where the shiites backed by the US commits genocide against the kurds and the sunnis.

Of course, many other arab countries will get involved in such a battle, the restult will be a neverending battle just like in israel/palestine.


 
This is stuff I posted in the ATOT verison of this thread.

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The military is (justifiably) very concerned with anyone caught tampering with military equipment and ESPECIALLY tampering with military records.

The problem (and reason they were court marshal), was not so much that they comandeered equipment, but that they then rendered that equipment unusable for their fellow soldiers who might also need it later. Add to that the fact that they grossly violated military rules by tampering with ID tags, and conspiring to cover their tracks by ensuring that the vehicles WERE NOT LOCATED.

So yes, these reservists DID use the vehicles. Then tried to make sure no one else could.

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Of COURSE the military salvages parts and canabalizes from damaged vehicles, but what kind of supply system could you possibly have if every soldier started lifting parts they felt they needed from anything they saw as 'abandoned'?

They are being court-marshalled exactly as if they had fallen asleep at their post, or mouthed off to a superior officer. The military doesn't play around with rules.

Had they followed the regulations, instead of trying to 'erase' the vehicles from military records, they might have gotten a commendation for resourcefulness and getting the job done. Or maybe they would have pulled KP duty as punishment. At the very least, I doubt we would be reading about their court-marshall.

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You can't just take stuff in the real Army (particularly something as expensive as a vehicle) without there being someone accountable for it--someone who will get in serious trouble if they can't account for it. The abandoned vehicles in question were signed for by someone at some point, and likely would have been recovered and returned to their proper unit eventually. The Army can't do that if someone stole them for his unit. Conversely, if I'm in command of a unit and I'm signed for 5 vehicles and my unit for reasons I can't document now has 7 of them, I can get into trouble. The Army logistics people loathe hoarding, and for very practical reasons.

Now, had I been in their shoes, I would have probably taken the vehicles, completed the mission, and then let chain of command know who the vehicles belonged to and where I got them. At that point the chain of command can decide if I have to return the vehicles to their proper unit. If returning them puts me in a tight spot, well that's my tough luck--something I should have considered a possibility before I appropriated the vehicles.

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I find it funny that people automatically blame the Emperor of Evil: George Bush.
 
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
This isn't the full story. I assure you that this isn't an odd occurance and that for this kind of action to be taken against the soldiers... there is more to the story.

There's nothing more to it.

This is how it goes and has been for a long time. You only see it now because someone made it public.

It's nothing new.
 
Originally posted by: Aelius
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
This isn't the full story. I assure you that this isn't an odd occurance and that for this kind of action to be taken against the soldiers... there is more to the story.

There's nothing more to it.

This is how it goes and has been for a long time. You only see it now because someone made it public.

It's nothing new.

Yes there is more too it. See my post above.
 
Originally posted by: CaptainGoodnight
This is stuff I posted in the ATOT verison of this thread.

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The military is (justifiably) very concerned with anyone caught tampering with military equipment and ESPECIALLY tampering with military records.

The problem (and reason they were court marshal), was not so much that they comandeered equipment, but that they then rendered that equipment unusable for their fellow soldiers who might also need it later. Add to that the fact that they grossly violated military rules by tampering with ID tags, and conspiring to cover their tracks by ensuring that the vehicles WERE NOT LOCATED.

So yes, these reservists DID use the vehicles. Then tried to make sure no one else could.

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Of COURSE the military salvages parts and canabalizes from damaged vehicles, but what kind of supply system could you possibly have if every soldier started lifting parts they felt they needed from anything they saw as 'abandoned'?

They are being court-marshalled exactly as if they had fallen asleep at their post, or mouthed off to a superior officer. The military doesn't play around with rules.

Had they followed the regulations, instead of trying to 'erase' the vehicles from military records, they might have gotten a commendation for resourcefulness and getting the job done. Or maybe they would have pulled KP duty as punishment. At the very least, I doubt we would be reading about their court-marshall.

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You can't just take stuff in the real Army (particularly something as expensive as a vehicle) without there being someone accountable for it--someone who will get in serious trouble if they can't account for it. The abandoned vehicles in question were signed for by someone at some point, and likely would have been recovered and returned to their proper unit eventually. The Army can't do that if someone stole them for his unit. Conversely, if I'm in command of a unit and I'm signed for 5 vehicles and my unit for reasons I can't document now has 7 of them, I can get into trouble. The Army logistics people loathe hoarding, and for very practical reasons.

Now, had I been in their shoes, I would have probably taken the vehicles, completed the mission, and then let chain of command know who the vehicles belonged to and where I got them. At that point the chain of command can decide if I have to return the vehicles to their proper unit. If returning them puts me in a tight spot, well that's my tough luck--something I should have considered a possibility before I appropriated the vehicles.

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I find it funny that people automatically blame the Emperor of Evil: George Bush.

good points!
 
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