Screwed by Intel

[Ranymir]

I have 2 sticks of 512 corsiar 3200

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: Ranymir
anyone know how to fix this? cause when i start up the AmericanTrend bios says 1024 OK im guess thats the 1gb ram then why is it saying i have 2 pairs of 256

not 2 prs of 256 but only half of each 512 dimm ..you have 2x512 which is not being seen as such its either the mobo or the modules..who are the modules made by/info on them..?

corsair ..ok ..probably the ecs then..

 

[Ranymir]

crap hmm now i gotta get a new mobo this sucks

 

[Ranymir]

could this be becuase my board supportd DDR and DDR2 and that agp express ?

 

[Ranymir]

ok in Natural Selection (hl1 based mod) im getting 20fps something is definatly wrong im going to do a full redo (reformat hdd and reinstall OS) then do drivers if that doest work it gotta be something wrong with my Video Card or Motherboard

 

[pm]

Something here didn't make sense - so I went through the trouble to download the ESC manual. And sure enough, there it is on page 8 of 66:

Supports 256-Mb, 512-Mb and 1-Gb DDR technologies for x8 and x16 devices
Supports up to four unbuffered DIMM

* 915P chipset can only support 256-Mb, 512-Mb and 1-Gb DDR technologies for x8 and x16 device, NOT support 128-Mb DDR technology. That is, 256 MB Double Side Memory Module & 128MB Single Side Memory Module are NOT support."

This above it written verbatim - all typos, spelling, capitalization, punctuation, etc. is exactly as it is in the manual.

This doesn't make any sense to me at all.

This motherboard has one interesting odd thing with regards to video cards and that is that it has both an AGP-e slot and a PCI-e slot. I've never heard of an AGP-e slot, so this is a new thing to me.

As far as the original question, I am completely confused as to why the motherboard should care at all what the amount of RAM on the video card is. It's almost like the authors of the ESC manual are confusing two different things: memory organization on the DIMM itself, and PCI-e onboard memory.

I can understand a motherboard not supporting 8Mbit or 16Mbit memory chips on the DIMM itself - these are old technologies. So that would eliminate 64MB and 128MB single-sided DIMMS, and 128MB and 256MB double-sided DIMMs.

 

[Green Man]

Originally posted by: pm
Something here didn't make sense - so I went through the trouble to download the ESC manual. And sure enough, there it is on page 8 of 66:

Supports 256-Mb, 512-Mb and 1-Gb DDR technologies for x8 and x16 devices
Supports up to four unbuffered DIMM

* 915P chipset can only support 256-Mb, 512-Mb and 1-Gb DDR technologies for x8 and x16 device, NOT support 128-Mb DDR technology. That is, 256 MB Double Side Memory Module & 128MB Single Side Memory Module are NOT support."

This above it written verbatim - all typos, spelling, capitalization, punctuation, etc. is exactly as it is in the manual.

Refers to how many memory modules are on the DIMM, 8 or 16. Nowhere in this does it say anything about PCI-E. I don't know why people are thinking this has anything to do with video memory, this is only refering to DIMMs.

 

[mechBgon]

I believe the AGP slot is actually riding the PCI bus on these. The x8 and x16 stuff would refer to the organization of the memory modules. Example module that would be ok: Crucial PC3200 unbuffered non-parity, organized as 64Mbit x 64. I believe the 64 denotes what's called "cells" within the ICs themselves.

So the x8 and x16 thing might leap to the eye of a newbie as having something to do with PCI-Express, but that stuff's been in mobo manuals a lot longer than PCIe has been around. ECS sure did make hash of it, though

Big picture: maybe grab an Asus 915 board, Ranymir. Also I forgot to say Welcome to the Forums

 

[Ranymir]

Second thought could it be my Video Card thats defective?

 

[FlyingPenguin]

I have never heard of a mobo that cares a rat's behind how much memory is on the video card - and certainly not one that has a problem with LESS memory and not more.

Besides they don't make too many video cards with over 128Mb. I think your manual is mixed up. Sounds like a typical mis-translation. They definatley seem to be referring to minimum size of your ONBOARD memory sticks.

 

[Ranymir]

So its more likely that my 6600gt is fuxored? (i been reading major probems like frezzing and locking up for 6600 and 6800 and their gt counterparts but theres nothing been like my decreased performance)

 

[mechBgon]

Your mobo is only recognizing half of your RAM, and you're thinking the video card is the issue?



*forms megaphone out of rolled-up frozen-pizza carton* Replace the motherboard with one that is not a Dr. Frankenstein Special. That is all.

 

[Ranymir]

ughh My motherboard does reconigze my full ram CPUID does too and so does the bios that was the Belarc Advisor report thingy that said 256 (dont ask me why)

 

[stevty2889]

Run memtest and see if it recognizes all of the ram, then let it run for at least 12 hours.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: stevty2889
Run memtest and see if it recognizes all of the ram, then let it run for at least 12 hours.

sensible suggestion

 

[imported_g33k]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Your mobo is only recognizing half of your RAM, and you're thinking the video card is the issue?



*forms megaphone out of rolled-up frozen-pizza carton* Replace the motherboard with one that is not a Dr. Frankenstein Special. That is all.

ROFL

 

[Raduque]

AGP-Express connects an AGP slot to the PCI-Express bus. It's bridged, like a 6x00 AGP card, only backwards. I would definately say the mobo is your issue. It is an ECS, afterall. I would find something that's straight PCI-E and DDR.

Edit: the 128mb DDR thing means you can only use a DDR DIMM (System ram, not video card ram) of 256MB or greater.

 

[kobymu]

it is probably a glitch in the BIOS.

try updating the BIOS .

/EDIT

just chacked www.ecs.com.tw and www.ecsusa.com, and there are 3 diffrent 915P-A version:
1.1 , 1.2A and 3.0 so make sure you match the BIOS with the board.

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Your mobo is only recognizing half of your RAM, and you're thinking the video card is the issue?



*forms megaphone out of rolled-up frozen-pizza carton* Replace the motherboard with one that is not a Dr. Frankenstein Special. That is all.

LOL, as I sit here and try to fix an ECS K7S5A. I think I'll try that K7N2 again.

 

[Mildlyamused]

1. You have a ecs board which equals crap which equals unsatasfactory anything
2. You have a crappy video card
3. You have a crappy chipset
4. You have a crappy set of ram (since it's got a crappy chipset forcing you to use crappy DDR2 technology, you have bad timings)
5. therefore you system will give you crappy scores
6. .....
7. Bankruptcy!

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Your mobo is only recognizing half of your RAM, and you're thinking the video card is the issue?



*forms megaphone out of rolled-up frozen-pizza carton* Replace the motherboard with one that is not a Dr. Frankenstein Special. That is all.

LOL, as I sit here and try to fix an ECS K7S5A. I think I'll try that K7N2 again.

Heh, my old S5A was Godlike. I overclocked the piss outta that poor board and made it eat it's VRMs

Midlyly: LOL "Bankruptcy" that's what happens when you buy Intel But I think, FWIW, he is using regular DDR, not DDR2. I agree though, that he needs a new mobo.

 

[Sunner]

Get a non-ECS board, ECS is crap.
One would think they could hire at least one guy that speaks decent English, that manual looks like something JeffK would write.