Scrabble Abandons English, Endorses Random Gibberish

Torn Mind

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I think the OP needs another therapy session with the Pope in Latin so he detox from the developments of a living language.
 
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nakedfrog

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I think the OP needs another therapy session with the Pope in Latin so he detox from the developments of a living language.
I know just the thing.

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KB

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This has been going on forever. I remember the first time someone played "za" and I was like, thats slang, you cant play that, but sure enough its been in the list for years.

Now anyone can play any letters in any order and it has a high probability of being a word in the scrabble dictionary.
 

Captante

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Over time "slang" evolves into acceptable language and gets added to dictionaries.

This is nothing new (at all) and is about as "noteworthy" as old people knocking change brought about by the young.

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brianmanahan

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Over time "slang" evolves into acceptable language and gets added to dictionaries.

This is nothing new (at all) and is about as "noteworthy" as old people knocking change brought about by the young.

:rolleyes:

mondo and tubular didn't survive the 80s though

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Captante

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mondo and tubular didn't survive the 80s though

:(

Ummm.... ;)

Mondo *(All 3 links Mirriam-Webster)

IS still commonly used however it's "slang" usage was VERY close to it's "classic" definition anyway so I don't think that it applies.

Tubular

OTOH is currently pretty much only used to indicate something is "tube-like" these days. (the basis for it meaning "cool" or "awesome" goes way back to California surfers in the 1960's-70's)

  • Tubular (slang), surf culture slang for cool or awesome, derived from catching a wave and getting in the tube (Wiki)
 
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mikeymikec

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Two things on this topic:

1 - When I played scrabble with my family, the two letter words list that came with the game ended up getting banned. Our feeling was (for example) a Scottish word for cow didn't have much of a place among English people.

2 - There was some scrabble-type app that my wife wanted to play with me on and I ended up saying "nope" because the game considered "prez" to be a word. My feeling was how many other random slang terms that wouldn't normally be allowed are being allowed by this app?

I think there has to be some kind of understanding between players about what isn't allowed. Sure, language evolves, but "this word should be allowed because teens on tiktok have been using it for a few months" wouldn't be a game I end up getting involved in. I'm sure some groups of players would be totally cool with that (more power to them, they can play however they like amongst consenting players), like an urbandictionary edition (that would probably be a good laugh with plenty of alcohol involved) :)
 
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Captante

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Two things on this topic:

1 - When I played scrabble with my family, the two letter words list that came with the game ended up getting banned. Our feeling was (for example) a Scottish word for cow didn't have much of a place among English people.

2 - There was some scrabble-type app that my wife wanted to play with me on and I ended up saying "nope" because the game considered "prez" to be a word. My feeling was how many other random slang terms that wouldn't normally be allowed are being allowed by this app?

I think there has to be some kind of understanding between players about what isn't allowed. Sure, language evolves, but "this word should be allowed because teens on tiktok have been using it for a few months" wouldn't be a game I end up getting involved in. I'm sure some groups of players would be totally cool with that (more power to them, they can play however they like amongst consenting players), like an urbandictionary edition (that would probably be a good laugh with plenty of alcohol involved) :)

I have some bad news.... Mirriam-Webster agrees with the app. ;)

"Prez" (slang) definition



*(keep the payments coming and I won't tell the wife!)
 
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Captante

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US English can get fucked as far as I'm concerned! I thought slang wasn't allowed in Scrabble. Maybe that was another family rule?


Just like everyone in the family Monopoly game has to agree on how to handle "Free Parking" and "Go to Jail" PRIOR to beginning, the source used to define what consists of a "legal word" must also be discussed and agreed upon!

;)


It gets worse: "Prez" (Official Scrabble dictionary)

(must enter search-word manually)

"CONGRATULATIONS! THIS IS AN OFFICIAL SCRABBLE WORD.
MERRIAM-WEBSTER'S OFFICIAL SCRABBLE PLAYERS DICTIONARY, 5TH EDITION, ONLY DEFINES ROOT WORDS. PLEASE SEE ROOT WORD DEFINITION."
 

Torn Mind

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Crib is a word but a certain segment of the population uses it with the slang definition of "place of residence" and with the connotation of being "home".
 

Captante

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Crib is a word but a certain segment of the population uses it with the slang definition of "place of residence" and with the connotation of being "home".

Barely qualifies as a "slang" definition" of "crib" per a dictionary:

Definition of "crib" (Mirriam-Webster)

crib
noun

(3) a building for storage

(a) small narrow room or dwelling. hut or shack

(b) room or shack used for prostitution
 

Torn Mind

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Barely qualifies as a "slang" definition" of "crib" per a dictionary:

Definition of "crib" (Mirriam-Webster)

crib
noun

(3) a building for storage

(a) small narrow room or dwelling. hut or shack

(b) room or shack used for prostitution
I didn't want to be too explicit, but I'm just saying that it's not used in the sense of "home" except primarily amongst black people. While 3 (a) comes close, the home or dwelling could be a whole house, not just a narrow room. (Two people, unrelated, used the term in the exact same manner to me)

The others still miss the mark. Storage spaces are not necessarily living areas and not every home is a prostitution facility.
 

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I didn't want to be too explicit, but I'm just saying that it's not used in the sense of "home" except primarily amongst black people. While 3 (a) comes close, the home or dwelling could be a whole house, not just a narrow room. (Two people, unrelated, used the term in the exact same manner to me)

The others still miss the mark. Storage spaces are not necessarily living areas and not every home is a prostitution facility.


That may have been the case 10-15 years ago when the term was popularized (but NOT invented!) by rappers but it's "gone mainstream" while you weren't looking.

The main use of "crib" I hear is still in reference to a babies bed BUT all kinds of people (to be fair mainly in urban areas) use "crib" to refer to a room or apartment now.

Plus that's REALLY close to one of the "classic" definitions of the word anyway as I pointed out.


"The word “crib” refers to a house or any kind of dwelling is normally attributed to rappers and hip-hop culture, but there was another poetic bard who used it before them – Shakespeare. The word makes an appearance in Henry IV when Shakespeare asks “Why rather, sleep, liest thou in smoky cribs, Upon uneasy pallets stretching thee…

(Allthatsinteresting.com)
 
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