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SCOTUS watch! Who is in the box?

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werepossum said:
By precedent, the nomination ends with the term of Congress. However, by precedent the Senate also makes at least a pretense of doing its Constitutional job, so obviously we've now outgrown yet another part of the Constitution.
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heh, good point. 😀
 
MomentsofSanity said:
Unlikely. They don't want to have the GOP throw the nuclear option this wary, and they will. They are better saving for another day, say, when it's time to replace a liberal justice.
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This is a stolen seat. Democrats should not just return to normalcy after what GOP did to Garland, it should be for Republicans to de-escalate find a moderate pick that is acceptable to the Democrats. If GOP wants to get rid of the filibuster, that's fine. The filibuster is meaningless anyways since it can be done away with easily. Dems will have to do the FDR court packing play after they take power anyways, so time to drop the pretenses.
 
MrPickins said:
Why do we need a nomination? I was told by many of our fine conservative members early last year that we should let it stay at 8 or even drop down to 7. 😉
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Ginsburg is half skeleton already.... so yea wait a few months and the court will be back to 4-3 on those issues like the 2nd amendment.
 
senseamp said:
This is a stolen seat. Democrats should not just return to normalcy after what GOP did to Garland, it should be for Republicans to de-escalate find a moderate pick that is acceptable to the Democrats. If GOP wants to get rid of the filibuster, that's fine. The filibuster is meaningless anyways since it can be done away with easily. Dems will have to do the FDR court packing play after they take power anyways, so time to drop the pretenses.
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I don't know. With current reports, they may go full retard, partly because they secretly agree with some of the positions a conservative judge would take (e.g. money in politics). In fact, Broom Hilda was likely going to keep Garland, and Obama definitely was even if he could pick someone more liberal.

In practice, the filibuster hasn't been useless. Look at the last 8 yrs.
 
senseamp said:
This is a stolen seat. Democrats should not just return to normalcy after what GOP did to Garland, it should be for Republicans to de-escalate find a moderate pick that is acceptable to the Democrats. If GOP wants to get rid of the filibuster, that's fine. The filibuster is meaningless anyways since it can be done away with easily. Dems will have to do the FDR court packing play after they take power anyways, so time to drop the pretenses.
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The GOP learned from the senate trailblazer... Chuck Schumer.

Stolen seat.... liberals have become so over dramatic to the point that it is not a cute annoyance anymore.
 
Maxima1 said:
I don't know. With current reports, they may go full retard, partly because they secretly agree with some of the positions a conservative judge would take (e.g. money in politics). In fact, Broom Hilda was likely going to keep Garland, and Obama definitely was even if he could pick someone more liberal.
In practice, the filibuster hasn't been useless. Look at the last 8 yrs.
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Mitch McConnell is not an idiot. He knows where Trump approval is headed, and what that forebodes for the GOP, the party of Trump, in the future. If he wants to get rid of the Filibuster, the Democrats should just let him and move on, but I don't think he does.
 
senseamp said:
Mitch McConnell is not an idiot. He knows where Trump approval is headed, and what that forebodes for the GOP, the party of Trump, in the future. If he wants to get rid of the Filibuster, the Democrats should just let him and move on, but I don't think he does.
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They might not even have the votes for removing it right now. That's another reason why it's stupid to concede right now. But I don't see how the filibuster move would hurt the GOP. The SC is largely detached from Trump. Trump's list from Heritage Foundation/Federalist Society is a dream come true for them.
 
It's Neil Gorsuch. Off Donald Trumps Sept. 23 2016 list of possible Supreme Court nominees.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-...list-of-potential-supreme-court-justice-picks
"Neil Gorsuch is a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. He was appointed to the position in 2006. Judge Gorsuch previously served in the Justice Department as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General. Judge Gorsuch was a Marshall Scholar and received his law degree from Harvard. He clerked for Justices Byron White and Anthony Kennedy."

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/30/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-donald-trump/
 
senseamp said:
It's for GOP to restore normalcy since they broke it.
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I'll continue with my train of thought then... as your words continue to confirm intent. I wrote this for my previous post.
Escalating hatred and vengeance will draw the use of force, slowly at first. One step at a time.
  • First, restoring majority rule to the Senate.
  • Second, Democrats walking out in protest.
  • Third, Republicans operating without Democrats.
    Maybe, Republicans lose the next election and both sides try to heal...
    Or...
  • Fourth, Democrats declare a separatist government.
Trump could nuke a country and do less damage than where our path leads us. And your words indicate intent to follow through.
Chinese would say we live in interesting times, given one side's all out protest and rejection of the election.

Maxima1 said:
So you just fold like a lawn chair?
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I generally despise what I believe Trump plans to do. As I think such plans will fail the American people. Yet waging all out war against a functioning government... for at least the remainder of his term, is going to lead to worse things than Trump.
 
Jaskalas said:
Yet waging all out war against a functioning government... for at least the remainder of his term, is going to lead to worse things than Trump.
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If you enable it, they'll keep doing it each time, since there's no consequences. The SC is very important in that the next two picks will shift the balance for a few decades at least if they remained. Democrats can't afford to allow them to shift the court away to a far right ideology. They should do everything they can to get a moderate or liberal court.
 
Jaskalas said:
I generally despise what I believe Trump plans to do. As I think such plans will fail the American people. Yet waging all out war against a functioning government... for at least the remainder of his term, is going to lead to worse things than Trump.
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GOP destroyed functioning government, it's on them to rebuild it, not the Dems. The Dems job is to make Republicans reap what they have sown.
If you want a functioning government, the first thing is not to reward government dysfunction of stealing a SCOTUS seat by legitimizing it.
 
senseamp said:
GOP destroyed functioning government, it's on them to rebuild it, not the Dems. The Dems job is to make Republicans reap what they have sown.
If you want a functioning government, the first thing is not to reward government dysfunction of stealing a SCOTUS seat by legitimizing it.
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That's easy, use The Constitutional Option.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/26/830510/-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option

I'd like for the Senate to give an actual filibuster attempt a chance, but if it's a successful filibuster lasting 2 or 3 days, end it.
 
For Conservatives, including the "never Trump" crowd, there can be no denying that President Trump kept his most important campaign promise. #winning
 
compuwiz1 said:
For Conservatives, including the "never Trump" crowd, there can be no denying that President Trump kept his most important campaign promise. #winning
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You're almost amusing, unfortunately these issues/appointments are going to really have long term ramifications that are leading accelerating the gentrification of the upper class into every spot in the US Government, which is the antithesis of what the country was founded on to begin with.

Perhaps you may need some clarification later.
 
The US is a Republic of course, perhaps we should go back to the Roman days of if he is performing badly and has a low approval rating, the National Guard could just rush into the White House and whipe him out if there was someone willing to pay for the office.

Et Tu, Brute?

I still think JFK was along those lines 😛

🙄
 
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So, without reading the thread let me venture a guess. The left is unhappy with this pick and is making arguments based on them thinking they're still in charge and that everybody must kowtow to their wishes.

How'd I do?
 
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