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House passes same-sex marriage bill in retort to high court

The House has overwhelmingly approved a bill to protect same-sex and interracial marriages. Tuesday's vote stands as a direct confrontation with the Supreme Court, whose conservative majority in overturning Roe v.
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In a robust but lopsided debate, Democrats argued intensely and often personally in favor of enshrining marriage equality in federal law, while Republicans steered clear of openly rejecting gay marriage. Instead leading Republicans portrayed the bill as unnecessary amid other issues facing the nation.

Tuesday’s election-year roll call, 267-157, was partly political strategy, forcing all House members, Republicans and Democrats, to go on the record with their views. It also reflected the legislative branch pushing back against an aggressive court that has sparked fears it may revisit apparently settled U.S. laws.

Wary of political fallout, GOP leaders did not press their lawmakers to hold the party line against the bill, aides said. In all, 47 Republicans joined Democrats in voting for passage.
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What will happen in the Senate? Dunno, will it get a vote, even?
 
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eelw

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uclaLabrat said:
It should. They control the agenda.
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No, a single senator can block debating this bill. But I don’t get what happen to all the talk to changing but to a talking filibuster at the minimum. If someone wants to stand there and talk for 8 hours straight, let them. They’ll call out sick the next day to lower the threshold in favour of the majority
 
HomerJS

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eelw said:
No, a single senator can block debating this bill. But I don’t get what happen to all the talk to changing but to a talking filibuster at the minimum. If someone wants to stand there and talk for 8 hours straight, let them. They’ll call out sick the next day to lower the threshold in favour of the majority
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They will get some toad like Cruz or Paul to do it. They would have to use filibuster exception. Blocking it would give the Dems their talking point and they can next move to codify Roe and use exemption for that
 
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Indus said:
You think people care???

Look at these voters:


And that's how the conservaterrorists are winning.
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Reminds me of this quote:

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

― George Carlin
 
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ch33zw1z said:
here ya go


now that the 14th is toilet paper, expect more progress to be regressed by the theocrats.
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Just gotta say something... ain't it weird that all these right-wing "strict Constitutionalists" have completely shat all over the 14th and all of the unenumerated rights, but they still think they're Constitution-loving patriots because the 2a and "States rights?"
Meanwhile, we're back to pre-1869 when any individual state can arbitrarily legislate away its citizens' Constitutional rights.. because freedom!
 
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Shmee said:
Ah thanks, that was the decision that legalized same sex marriage throughout the US.
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Except it didn't legalize same-sex marriage. Just like Roe v Wade didn't legalize abortion. Apologies if I seem pendantic here, but it's this kind of thinking that leads people to believe that "activist judges are legislating from the bench." When that is not what's happening.
Obergefell v. Hodges ruling was that the due process and equal protection clauses in the 14a prohibited states from denying same sex marriages.
Roe v Wade was the same thing, that States could not proactively interfere with a woman's medical decisions any moreso than it could with a man's.
This is what SCOTUS has actually repealed here with Dobb's. They haven't stopped abortions or brought back States Rights... they have stripped every American citizen of their 14a guarantee to equal protection of the laws.
Imagine, if you will, if some liberal court stripped citizens of their 2a rights and how outraged conservatives would be. Well a conservative court just took away our 14a rights, and for some reason everyone thinks it's just about abortions. And not, yaknow, your guarantee that your State govt can't take away your Constitutional rights.
 
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Remember, guys, the Democrats were the party of the Confederacy, which is why the modern Republican party reveres the Confederate flag as "heritage" and is using the courts to undermine the Reconstruction amendments.
 
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Are Obergefell, Loving and Griswold in the same bill?

Maybe that’s why Republicans may be forced to sign it

Next put Roe up for a vote

I heard a Republican bitching about Democrats engaging in culture wars when that’s all they’ve been doing for 30 years.

Boo fucking hoo!!!
 
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nakedfrog said:
And naturally all but 8 of the Republicans in the house voted against a law to specifically codify access to contraceptives. 2 of them voted "present". Fucking lunacy.

www.salon.com

“They’re coming for contraception”: 195 Republicans vote against right to birth control, condoms

Just 8 Republicans supported the bill as Democrats call out the GOP's "assault on women's rights."
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It's because conservatives don't actually care about unborn babies. They just want to punish women who have sex.
 
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Vic said:
It's because conservatives don't actually care about unborn babies. They just want to punish women who have sex outside of wedlock and not for the purpose of breeding.
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FTFY

Oh and the above doesn't apply to their mistresses obv.
 
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This is an old story, from January, but it seems to be saying SCOTUS will be hearing an Affirmative Action case in the session that starts in October. So does that mean AA is not long for this world?

edition.cnn.com

Supreme Court to consider landmark challenge to Harvard and UNC affirmative action policies

The Supreme Court announced Monday it will reconsider race-based affirmative action in college admissions, a move that could eliminate campus practices that have widely benefitted Black and Hispanic students.
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pmv said:
This is an old story, from January, but it seems to be saying SCOTUS will be hearing an Affirmative Action case in the session that starts in October. So does that mean AA is not long for this world?

edition.cnn.com

Supreme Court to consider landmark challenge to Harvard and UNC affirmative action policies

The Supreme Court announced Monday it will reconsider race-based affirmative action in college admissions, a move that could eliminate campus practices that have widely benefitted Black and Hispanic students.
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It does I expect them to essentially ban any consideration of race and probably any combination of other factors that can serve as a stand in for race.
 
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And they call us "stupid communists, marxists, libtards, woke" and other epithets.
 
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