SCOTUS struck down DOMA

[MetalMat]

We'll be sure to let you inherit whatever property the toaster has when it "dies".

I can't wait that long for my toast, I'm getting a divorce so I can at least get one slice.

 

[yllus]

tbh, a man/toaster marriage sounds awesome.

make him pay full price for spousal health insurance for his toaster, and bring my rates down.

There are some toasters I wouldn't shacking up with...

 

[Brainonska511]

There are some toasters I wouldn't shacking up with...

Why a toaster? You're just going to get burned.

 

[soulcougher73]

The issue is that I believe marriage to be more than a contract to extort benefits from the government.

Opposing SSM is a natural consequence of that.



The same logic would apply to every white abolitionist. Were they in the wrong?

EDIT: And the same "Does it somehow affect you" logic applies equally well to marrying a dog. Somehow I don't think you would support people marrying dogs.

Obviously the word "consent" means nothing to you. Good to know.

 

[nehalem256]

Obviously the word "consent" means nothing to you. Good to know.

I know exactly what it means. I also know that it is meaningless when referring to an animal/toaster "consenting".

 

[thraashman]

You mean like the life insurance payout ^_^

Only if it's still under warranty.

 

[soulcougher73]

Also, marriage is not just a contract.

When talking about legal precedence (which we are), yes it is just a contract. The government only cares about the legal aspects of marriage. Not the social aspects. As social aspects are different for every person. Different nationalities do different ceremonies etc.

 

[Bird222]

You mean like the life insurance payout ^_^

Good luck with getting an insurance company to issue a policy on a toaster.

 

[nehalem256]

Good luck with getting an insurance company to issue a policy on a toaster.

If we are married and it is through a work policy of covering your spouse...

When talking about legal precedence (which we are), yes it is just a contract. The government only cares about the legal aspects of marriage. Not the social aspects. As social aspects are different for every person. Different nationalities do different ceremonies etc.

The government doesn't only care about the legal aspects. If it did there would be no reason to have marriage at all.

 

[nageov3t]

Good luck with getting an insurance company to issue a policy on a toaster.

just charge them full premiums... a toaster probably requires a lot less money to fix than, say, fighting cancer.

 

[soulcougher73]

Considering that this is supposed to be a free country, someone being able to do something because they want to is a damn good argument. If fully capable, consenting adults want to get married why the hell not. If they want to have a morning ritual of twisting each others nipples, why the hell not. It's nobody else's business. Did Americans of today forget we are supposed to be striving for more and more freedom in this country not less?

So when can I expect your support in marrying my toaster?

Guess you missed the two words before "want". Try reading it again. They are "consenting adults" if you are too lazy to read it again.

 

[nageov3t]

nehalem has convinced me, I'm now in favor of man-toaster marriages.

please be sure to send us some wedding pictures. :thumbsup:

 

[Bird222]

If we are married and it is through a work policy of covering your spouse...

Since marriage is a contract, consent is required. Therefore you can't really marry your toaster, but you can "play marry" it and give it all your sweet lovin'. :whiste:

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract#Elements and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract#Formation

 

[nehalem256]

Guess you missed the two words before "want". Try reading it again. They are "consenting adults" if you are too lazy to read it again.

I didnt. If I want to marry my toaster, and Bob wants to marry his toaster why shouldn't we as consenting adults be able to?

 

[werepossum]

in Ayn Rand Land, they'd simply torch their assets and start over, because successful people don't need anything from anyone. :thumbsup:

Oddly enough, that seems to be in the proggie manual as well. Though instead of torching assets, government would simply take them and distribute them "properly".

There are some toasters I wouldn't shacking up with...

YES! Wait - what? Toaster?

nehalem has convinced me, I'm now in favor of man-toaster marriages.

please be sure to send us some wedding pictures. :thumbsup:

And remember to plug her in sixty seconds before consummation. That'll get her hot.

 

[nehalem256]

Since marriage is a contract, consent is required. Therefore you can't really marry your toaster, but you can "play marry" it and give it all your sweet lovin'. :whiste:

(1) Where did I say anything about me being forcibly married to a toaster?

(2) Marriage might be a contract today. But yesterday it was a contract between a man and a woman. The whole SSM movement hinges on the idea that the definition of marriage can change, and in fact must change if it discriminates against a sexual minority.

 

[thraashman]

I didnt. If I want to marry my toaster, and Bob wants to marry his toaster why shouldn't we as consenting adults be able to?

When you can make the toaster talk and consent of it's own will, then we'll support it. You might also have to figure out how to make the toaster have a will. Or be alive. And perhaps make yourself not be a fucktard. But that one seems like science fiction as this point.

 

[soulcougher73]

I know exactly what it means. I also know that it is meaningless when referring to an animal/toaster "consenting".

You are right it is meaningless talking about consent with a animal/toaster. That is why we dont bother talking about it, unlike you.

 

[nehalem256]

When you can make the toaster talk and consent of it's own will, then we'll support it. You might also have to figure out how to make the toaster have a will. Or be alive. And perhaps make yourself not be a fucktard. But that one seems like science fiction as this point.

You are right it is meaningless talking about consent with a animal/toaster. That is why we dont bother talking about it, unlike you.

Please drop your object-phobic bigotry.

How will allowing people to marry their toaster affect YOUR marriage?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What a strange thread.

Anyway we have an increase in liberty by the curtailment of govermental overreach. My moral sense has nothing to do with this and should not and likewise neither should DC's. IMO we have good decisions over the last two days and some rather amusing step shuffling on the part of justices changing opinions depending on the topic.

 

[jpeyton]

10 pages in, people are still feeding the troll?

The forum has ignore lists in case your self-control fails.

 

[thraashman]

10 pages in, people are still feeding the troll?

The forum has ignore lists in case your self-control fails.

Edited: I need to listen to this and stop now. I tell myself I shall no longer feed the troll.

 

[zinfamous]

YES! Wait - what? Toaster?

"Toaster" is the highly offensive and derogatory term used by racist humans in reference to Cylons. That fine young woman is a cylon. As you can see, the rumors about cylons wanting to murder you and eat your babies are purely specious. No way that hot toas--er, dish would want to do that.

 

[soulcougher73]

Please drop your object-phobic bigotry.

How will allowing people to marry their toaster affect YOUR marriage?

You can fake marry it all you want. But it has no legal rights so its not worth discussing it in the real world.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Are you seriously disputing that 10 years ago in the US a man and a woman was required for marriage?



Forcing a person to get married is obviously a bad thing and I have said as much. I think it is pretty easy to show societal harm.

Forcing a toaster or dog to get married... yeah not so much. If you stick your dick in a toaster without its consent are you a rapist?

A person marrying a toaster or a dog does not affect your marriage. Love is love. Why can't you let people be happy? Gays and straight can get married so object/animal-sexuals should be allowed to as well. "BIGOT! BIGOT! BIGOT!"

Every argument for SSM transfers equally to completely absurd forms of marriage.

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