SCOTUS 4-4 on Obama's immigration executive action - killing it.

[Svnla]

So... you are retarded. Got it!

That's it? That's all you have? Can't debate with facts and logic, pull the excuses and more excuses card and of course, more insults and name callings

Get some new materials. Different day, same old craps from you. Goodness.

 

[ivwshane]

Well then repeal the immigration laws entirely and save even more of those scare government resources. Laws that are intentionally unenforced are far worse than no laws at all and personally I don't care how many immigrants come in but the ones that do better fucking obey the law if we have them.

It looks like I over estimated you.


Lets try something else.
A) How many US citizens in this country do you think break the law? Quite a few right?
B) Now how many of those citizens that break the law are actually caught? A lot less than the number in A, right?

Can you think of any reason why 100% of US citizens who break the law are not caught? Can you think of any reason why any law is not enforced 100% of the time?

If you can't think of a reason and you think the solution is to get rid of law instead, then you might be a retard.

 

[dainthomas]

In response to Hillary's tweet on the ruling:



We actually prefer you to deport the entire family and not break them apart.

So we should deport citizens now?

 

[ivwshane]

That's it? That's all you have?

Goodness.

That's all you've given me.

 

[glenn1]

So we should deport citizens now?

I disagree with the "not breaking up families" bit. I don't give a damn if the citizen kid stays or goes but the parents must not be allowed to benefit from their illegal actions that caused her to be a citizen in the first place.

 

[ivwshane]

That's it? That's all you have? Can't debate with facts and logic, pull the excuses and more excuses card and of course, more insults and name callings

Get some new materials. Different day, same old craps from you. Goodness.

I gave you a single fact and you were incapable of understanding that one simple fact.

Don't get mad at me because you are an idiot.

 

[First]

Boy, all those brown "illegals!" sure do get the white kids riled up. Hope you guys evolve soon. ;-)

 

[Svnla]

I disagree with the "not breaking up families" bit. I don't give a damn if the citizen kid stays or goes but the parents must not be allowed to benefit from their illegal actions that caused her to be a citizen in the first place.

Amen, especially the bolded/underlined part.

 

[fskimospy]

I disagree with the "not breaking up families" bit. I don't give a damn if the citizen kid stays or goes but the parents must not be allowed to benefit from their illegal actions that caused her to be a citizen in the first place.

Why is that the most important part? Are you saying that it is preferable to place these kids in foster care than to allow illegal immigrant parents to stay? If so, why is that preferable considering the well known negative outcomes of foster parenting?

 

[Svnla]

I gave you a single fact and you were incapable of understanding that one simple fact.

Don't get mad at me because you are an idiot.

No, you are the one that can not accept this single fact in my first post of this thread. Here it is again.

Enforce immigration laws and rules EQUALLY to EVERYONE. No exception. No excuse.

Not hard to understand. And then you ran on and on with this excuse and that excuse. What part of "NO EXCUSE" that you do NOT understand? And you are calling me names? LOL x 10000000000000000000.


You are a freaking joke. So pathetic.

 

[ivwshane]

No, you are the one that can not accept this single fact in my first post of this thread. Here it is again.



Not hard to understand. And then you ran on and on with this excuse and that excuse. What part of "NO EXCUSE" that you do NOT understand? And you are calling me names? LOL x 10000000000000000000.


You are a freaking joke. So pathetic.

Lol

 

[glenn1]

Boy, all those brown "illegals!" sure do get the white kids riled up. Hope you guys evolve soon. ;-)

I'd deport all the pasty white Anglo-Saxon and other European illegal immigrants first if that made you feel better. I do realize that means you'd lose your "they're just doing that because they're bigots" security blanket however.

I know this will shock and amaze you but I'd rather have millions more people who LEGALLY immigrate from whatever racial or ethnic background you think I dislike over even a single illegal immigrant of whatever racial group you think I prefer.

 

[glenn1]

Why is that the most important part? Are you saying that it is preferable to place these kids in foster care than to allow illegal immigrant parents to stay? If so, why is that preferable considering the well known negative outcomes of foster parenting?

Yes, because foster parents are still better than criminals.

 

[ivwshane]

Yes, because foster parents are still better than criminals.

And this opinion is based off of what evidence?

 

[FerrelGeek]

Look at them in this thread, when it's something they want they're like "appoint a liberal justice and get it done" What's so different in these guys and the ones who support citizens united by appointing conservative judges? I thought Supreme Court was supposed to be centrist?

The SCOTUS is supposed to be apolitical, keeping the other 2 branches in line with the constitution. But libs tend to not like the constitution as it limits their precious government.

 

[ivwshane]

The SCOTUS is supposed to be apolitical, keeping the other 2 branches in line with the constitution. But libs tend to not like the constitution as it limits their precious government.

Yep that's it! You nailed it!






/S

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

...because they were doing so in an effort to blunt the political power of minorities so that they could pursue systemically racist policies. This standard applies for ALL minorities, not just black people. If they wanted it for just black people they would have said so. Regardless, apparently you think this stopped more than a century ago so I'll ask you for a second time when it is that this stopped. Please be as specific as you can!

Glad to see you've skipped the usual concern trolling and 'who, me?' business and gone directly to accusing other people of lying when they call you on your bullshit. It's refreshing!

My comment was specific to the birthright citizenship issue...not the entirety of the 14th amendment. One would have to be a complete idiot to actually think I was saying that systemic racism and disenfranchisement of minorities went away 100 years ago. WTF is wrong with you? Really, WTF is your problem?

 

[ivwshane]

My comment was specific to the birthright citizenship issue...not the entirety of the 14th amendment. One would have to be a complete idiot to actually think I was saying that systemic racism and disenfranchisement of minorities went away 100 years ago. WTF is wrong with you? Really, WTF is your problem?

Lol! Classic doc! "Who me?"

 

[Pneumothorax]

I agree. To those who claim to be shocked that four justices agree with the Obama administration's position, I say nonsense. The real shocking point to me was that Chief Justice Roberts forced out this 4-4 ruling purely to make the Obama administration look bad. He is certainly aware that a tie decision (thus effectively upholding the last lower court's decision) is of next to no precedence value.

The only conclusion that can be objectively reached is that Roberts forced out this decision purely in an attempt to politically embarrass Obama. Blatant political manipulation of our system of justice, another low point for the Court in history.

If only what you said was true then I wouldn't be dealing with ACA bullhockey on a regular basis. Thanks again Chief Justice Roberts for allowing ACA to exist!

 

[buckshot24]

My comment was specific to the birthright citizenship issue...not the entirety of the 14th amendment. One would have to be a complete idiot to actually think I was saying that systemic racism and disenfranchisement of minorities went away 100 years ago. WTF is wrong with you? Really, WTF is your problem?

He's a hack and disrespectful to Indigenous People of the North.

 

[fskimospy]

My comment was specific to the birthright citizenship issue...not the entirety of the 14th amendment. One would have to be a complete idiot to actually think I was saying that systemic racism and disenfranchisement of minorities went away 100 years ago. WTF is wrong with you? Really, WTF is your problem?

Yes, and the birthright citizenship issue was created to combat systemic racism that most certainly hasn't gone away, meaning that there still remains a very good reason for having it which is the opposite of what you said. I never said a single thing about the entirety of the 14th amendment, so I have no idea where you got that idea from.

You react really really badly when people call you out for saying stupid things, immediately flying into a tizzy where you say people have to be dishonest or stupid or whatever else. Before you worry what's wrong with me maybe you should try to figure out what's wrong with you that makes you do that? It's pretty weird.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes, and the birthright citizenship issue was created to combat systemic racism that most certainly hasn't gone away, meaning that there still remains a very good reason for having it which is the opposite of what you said. I never said a single thing about the entirety of the 14th amendment, so I have no idea where you got that idea from.

You react really really badly when people call you out for saying stupid things, immediately flying into a tizzy where you say people have to be dishonest or stupid or whatever else. Before you worry what's wrong with me maybe you should try to figure out what's wrong with you that makes you do that? It's pretty weird.

You more think things and he more feels them. Each has its strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Balt]

I disagree with the "not breaking up families" bit. I don't give a damn if the citizen kid stays or goes but the parents must not be allowed to benefit from their illegal actions that caused her to be a citizen in the first place.

Agreed. If the kids want to stay in the U.S. with aunts and uncles who have status, fine. But to give the parents status simply because they popped out some kids while here illegally is nonsense.

I defend the Dems/Obama more often than not in P&N, but he went off the rails here. I'm disappointed he got even 4 votes.

 

[werepossum]

They are both examples of the executive prioritizing the use of law enforcement resources. In effect orders already existed to deport all illegal immigrants, it just can't be enforced because we don't have enough cops, etc. So really no different. Trump's order would also be largely ineffectual.

No. Obama was doing the exact opposite of the law. If that's executive privilege, then we live in a rotating dictatorship, not a republic of laws.

 

[ivwshane]

No. Obama was doing the exact opposite of the law. If that's executive privilege, then we live in a rotating dictatorship, not a republic of laws.

No he was not doing "the exact opposite of the law". He was prioritizing resources, which is one of the duties of the executive.