Scott Ritter: US plans June attack on Iran , US "cooked" Jan 30 Elections

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Taejin
SteepleRot, you usually seem somewhat reasonable, but I would like to say that I am *really* skeptical. That said, I will be eagerly waiting to see if your far flung theories have any basis come June.

Good lord. I'd hate to see what you consider unreasonable.

 

[Sysbuilder05]

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Why would the GOP need to assasinate him? He does a find job of doing it himself.
July 1st, cant wait.


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Sure pal.......

Ritter was 100% CORRECT when he said OVER AND OVER that SH didn't have WMD or the capability to make those weapons.

BTW,WHERE ARE THOSE WMD????????????? Remember that is THE reason we went to War,not just to rid the World of some old,chain smoking Iraqi leader.

Show me the 500 TONS of WMD that BUSH claimed that SH had and went to WAR OVER and I'll change my veiws on Ritter today.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Nice to see 2 month old threads come back to life

It adds up to people presuming his guilt regardless of the fact that there was no such verdict.

He ple-bargained, we are past the point of presuming innocence.

Not true. Excuse me, not true for the likes of you.

 

[Megamorph]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Yeah another sick left wing plot. You people disgust me.

OBL would be proud of you. Right, so we want them to attack us so thousands more Americans can die and our economy to be in more of a hole than it is at the moment. Right.

USA is evil, we cooked the elections in Iraq and we cause all the trouble in the world. The Islamo terrorists are no threat to us, in fact they want to hold a picnic with us and the mean old rotten United States keeps refusing. Awww. Are you ready to pack your bags and head over to the EU?

Rotten ole' America. Down with America. America sux0rs!!!!!!!!

LMAO...that's about the general attitude around here.

 

[conjur]

June is fast approaching. No wonder the administration wants to push Bolton's nomination through so quickly.

And, the Israeli spies...er....lobby is leaning on the US to place sanctions on Iran:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/575337.html

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
June is fast approaching. No wonder the administration wants to push Bolton's nomination through so quickly.

And, the Israeli spies...er....lobby is leaning on the US to place sanctions on Iran:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/575337.html

Yep, I can't wait to see yet another conspiracy theory/prediction debunked. I mean how many have fallen now? :laugh:

CsG

 

[conjur]

Funny how so many people don't pick up on sarcasm.

 

[halik]

hahah i pencilled in june 20th in my calendar

 

[Train]

heh, hold up guys, theres still a backlog of leftie conspiracies that have yet to come true, we dont need to keep adding more to the pile.

One that comes to mind is the "VOTE OR DIE" fear campaign that swept college campuses last fall, telling all the students they will be drafted if Bush gets elected.

Oh and something about $110 barrels of gas by this time. Just checked and it appears to be slipping under $48 today.

Economy in shambles, oh wait, wages up and better than expected jobs numbers, Fed will soon raise rates again (A sign of economic recovery)

Dollar collapsing? well its down historically, but its helping us in the short term. but no where near "Collapsing"

Keep those creative juices flowing guys, I always get a good laugh every time I stop by. lol

 

[drewshin]

Originally posted by: Train
heh, hold up guys, theres still a backlog of leftie conspiracies that have yet to come true, we dont need to keep adding more to the pile.

One that comes to mind is the "VOTE OR DIE" fear campaign that swept college campuses last fall, telling all the students they will be drafted if Bush gets elected.

Oh and something about $110 barrels of gas by this time. Just checked and it appears to be slipping under $48 today.

Economy in shambles, oh wait, wages up and better than expected jobs numbers, Fed will soon raise rates again (A sign of economic recovery)

Dollar collapsing? well its down historically, but its helping us in the short term. but no where near "Collapsing"

Keep those creative juices flowing guys, I always get a good laugh every time I stop by. lol

looks like you got our leftist conspiracies mixed up.
1) vote or die was a puff daddy thing to get people out to vote.
there were people saying that people would be drafted if bush was elected, but not part of the vote or die campaign.

2) $110 was stated by some financial analysts as a possible price spike in the event of a major event in the next 5-10 years. leftist conspiracy? heheh

3) dollar is still weak, but i agree not going to collapse outside of a major event.
it's helped the economy in certain areas, but you dont get anything for free, inflation has picked up as well...even with a weak dollar our trade deficits are still at or near record levels. so who's to tell whether it's a been a boon for us or a drag?'
warren buffett's been short the dollar, and he says he will continue to be.

let's see, which leftist conspriacy theories were right?

1) there were crazy lefties saying that bush had already planned to go to war with iraq
turned out to be true

2) there were crazy lefties saying that no wmd's would be found in iraq.
turned out to be true

3) there were crazy lefties saying that halliburton would get a nice chunk of money to rebuild iraq and probably lose track of and mismanage it.
turned out to be true.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: drewshin

looks like you got our leftist conspiracies mixed up.
1) vote or die was a puff daddy thing to get people out to vote.
there were people saying that people would be drafted if bush was elected, but not part of the vote or die campaign.

Like theres a difference? pahleeese

2) $110 was stated by some financial analysts as a possible price spike in the event of a major event in the next 5-10 years. leftist conspiracy? heheh

i could dig up the thread, but i think you know how to use the search function

3) dollar is still weak, but i agree not going to collapse outside of a major event.
it's helped the economy in certain areas, but you dont get anything for free, inflation has picked up as well...even with a weak dollar our trade deficits are still at or near record levels. so who's to tell whether it's a been a boon for us or a drag?'
warren buffett's been short the dollar, and he says he will continue to be.

blah blah blah, do you have a point or just blurting out something to sound like you know what your talking about?

let's see, which leftist conspriacy theories were right?

1) there were crazy lefties saying that bush had already planned to go to war with iraq
turned out to be true

this was a conspiracy? A secret even? Clinton was making plans to Attack Iraq

2) there were crazy lefties saying that no wmd's would be found in iraq.
turned out to be true

you cant make a prediciton after the fact, it sorta doesnt work that way, but nice hindsight though

3) there were crazy lefties saying that halliburton would get a nice chunk of money to rebuild iraq and probably lose track of and mismanage it.
turned out to be true.

Gee, and so did every other major government contract for the last 50 years, like pork is something new?

 

[Genx87]

This thread needs to be left dead until June 21st when we can all point and laugh at the OP.

 

[StageLeft]

Haha this is still going.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Taejin
SteepleRot, you usually seem somewhat reasonable, but I would like to say that I am *really* skeptical. That said, I will be eagerly waiting to see if your far flung theories have any basis come June.

And if hersch is wrong you will see the diffrence between me and some of the more hardheaded bush supporters in here.
I will admit I was wrong. (hey it happens!)
Nonetheless I do hope I am for the sake of many innocent lives.
But then this sick feeling of looking into the dark bottomless pit of madness of US politics nowdays who knows, tick, tick, tick.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: theGlove
we are getting closer and this story is looking more accurate

Maybe not.


From
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1539955&enterthread=y

In regards to Iran, Hersh stated that his contacts and research points to four different groups of U.S. Special Forces being in place in Iran. A member of the audience questioned Hersh?s credibility and accused him of harboring an anti-Bush bias. Hersh replied to the written question that the articles he writes are based upon information from his contacts, many of which are very high up in the intelligence community, the Pentagon, and the government and his information usually shows up a few weeks later in the mainstream media as accepted fact. He hasn?t been wrong yet. Hersh only reveals the names of his sources when allowed to do so. Most of his contacts, however, work in intelligence and revealing their names would compromise their safety and their jobs. Hersh did say that some high-ranking Pentagon officials are very critical and upset with the Bush administration but are unable to make public comments to that effect. As far as Hersh?s comments that fighting with Iran is imminent, he was told that if he wrote the piece correctly, there wouldn?t be a fight (meaning, if he uncovered enough information and enough people read it and criticized the Bush administration, an invasion or an attack on Iran would not happen.)

Just a bit of a reminder. 😉

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: theGlove
we are getting closer and this story is looking more accurate

Maybe not.


From
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1539955&enterthread=y

In regards to Iran, Hersh stated that his contacts and research points to four different groups of U.S. Special Forces being in place in Iran. A member of the audience questioned Hersh?s credibility and accused him of harboring an anti-Bush bias. Hersh replied to the written question that the articles he writes are based upon information from his contacts, many of which are very high up in the intelligence community, the Pentagon, and the government and his information usually shows up a few weeks later in the mainstream media as accepted fact. He hasn?t been wrong yet. Hersh only reveals the names of his sources when allowed to do so. Most of his contacts, however, work in intelligence and revealing their names would compromise their safety and their jobs. Hersh did say that some high-ranking Pentagon officials are very critical and upset with the Bush administration but are unable to make public comments to that effect. As far as Hersh?s comments that fighting with Iran is imminent, he was told that if he wrote the piece correctly, there wouldn?t be a fight (meaning, if he uncovered enough information and enough people read it and criticized the Bush administration, an invasion or an attack on Iran would not happen.)

Just a bit of a reminder. 😉

So Hersh does quantum mechanical writing now? Just by his making an observation on something changes its behaviour?

Wow! Amazing.

 

[Genx87]

As far as Hersh?s comments that fighting with Iran is imminent, he was told that if he wrote the piece correctly, there wouldn?t be a fight (meaning, if he uncovered enough information and enough people read it and criticized the Bush administration, an invasion or an attack on Iran would not happen.)

Checking the book right now, ah yes.

Liberal conspiracy theory rule #1:Always make sure you have your excuse ready and attribute the reason for the theories failure to yourself.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Kiss off you fascist Bush toadie. You are all a bunch of hypocritical liars. You belligerently reject any hint of Dub's crimes in spite of ample evidence from hundreds of sources. Dub is God. Dub is perfect. La la la la. But if it is someone like Ritter who challenges Dubya, you automatically convict them on the flimsiest evidence, even when you have to make it up. You are all slimeball hypocrites.

You made the claims. You have the burden of proof. Your article does not support your most serious claims. Back them up or STFU. I bet you really got your "facts" from some right wing nutjob hate site and you are dumb enough to believe they are true. Keep on bleating. You just expose yourself as a brainless Bush tool.

The mind of a looney left on display.

Left.... Right.... you are still a hyporcite bush fanboi douchebag. I like labels, too.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Checking the book right now, ah yes.

Liberal conspiracy theory rule #1:Always make sure you have your excuse ready and attribute the reason for the theories failure to yourself.

lol, well you gotta hand it to them, they reserve the right to bitch and say "I told ya so!" no matter what happens. brilliant

 

[galperi1]

Originally posted by: Genx87
As far as Hersh?s comments that fighting with Iran is imminent, he was told that if he wrote the piece correctly, there wouldn?t be a fight (meaning, if he uncovered enough information and enough people read it and criticized the Bush administration, an invasion or an attack on Iran would not happen.)

Checking the book right now, ah yes.

Liberal conspiracy theory rule #1:Always make sure you have your excuse ready and attribute the reason for the theories failure to yourself.

ahh, let me look this one up

Current admin's rule #1: Always make sure you have your excuse ready and attribute the reason for your theories failures to anybody BUT yourself

 

[StageLeft]

OMG no only 19 days and then it starts!!

 

[EagleKeeper]

If it happens, then Ritter may have credibility.

If not, then his backers will say that he outed the admin plans and they were changed.

There must be no way that he could be wrong:brokenheart:

 

[Steeplerot]

ritter already has plenty of credibility, and you never know, the time is not here yet, I have to agree at this point iraq is pretty much lost to the us, it would be total suicide to attack a neighboring country with a potential army of a million on the border poised and waiting to give bush another black eye., it looks bad for ritter's prediction, we shall see.

But then that's conventional warfare, who knows what the drones and air force has planned.

 

[ahurtt]

13 more days. . .

 

[ntdz]

Ritter is a MORON. Proof positive is the fact that no, we didn't attack Iran in June (and we won't). He just talks out of his ass, thinking he knows what he's talking about, when in fact he's just a grunt.