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Scientists find evidence for a ninth planet.

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If it's actually there then:

This:
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Plus a larger modern version of this:
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(Space rated nuclear reactor)

And this:
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Should get us there in under a decade. Maybe.
 
DigDog said:
the scientific community does not do cover ups.
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Typically not, though it'd be possible to fudge findings or delete data.

I don't see much reason to want to cover up a nearby dwarf star though. That'd be kind of tough to suppress anyway, as a nearby brown dwarf star would be a pretty nifty discovery.
That could be a hell of a project, too. Project Longshot was a concept for getting a probe to the Alpha Centauri system in 100 years, over 4 light years away.
Something <1 light year away: Neat, you could fling a probe out there in less than an average lifetime, with appropriate funding of course.


But if you're dealing with the conspiracy-theory mindset, there's not much that can be done to counter that type of thinking. Evidence against it, or lack of evidence for it, are both seen as proof that the coverup is true.
 
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Jeff7 said:
Typically not, though it'd be possible to fudge findings or delete data.

I don't see much reason to want to cover up a nearby dwarf star though. That'd be kind of tough to suppress anyway, as a nearby brown dwarf star would be a pretty nifty discovery.
That could be a hell of a project, too. Project Longshot was a concept for getting a probe to the Alpha Centauri system in 100 years, over 4 light years away.
Something <1 light year away: Neat, you could fling a probe out there in less than an average lifetime, with appropriate funding of course.
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Wow, that is really cool. I had no idea that we had ever come up with a viable way to send a probe to another star system in that short of time. Thanks for posting the link, really interesting read.
 
if anything, scientists fudge data in order to say they have discovered things which they haven't, not the other way around.

so mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby protostar that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.
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in 30 years they have not found a body which they have specifically been searching for, which they both claim to have "seen", yet cannot tell if it is a star, a planet, or a comet, does not reflect light, does not emit heat, and most important we do not need this object to calculate the orbits of the other objects in our system.

i have never seen data so confused as this, including that for bodies far more distant than this one. i am open to any possibility but i remain skeptical in this instance.
 
If God existed, he could just tell us WTF is out there instead of making us do all this work. Inconsiderate. It's all BS.
 
Jeff7 said:
Which will no doubt come from studies done by those darn lying scientists.

Check, mate.



:colbert:
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It's not data indicative of some rising, nefarious plot by scientists to lie their way to grant funding (as slim as that funding tends to be; most people are not getting rich by being a scientist surviving on publicly funded grants). It's just an aggregation of retracted papers which were retracted due to fraud, incompetence, or simple human error in the original works.
 
DigDog said:
if anything, scientists fudge data in order to say they have discovered things which they haven't, not the other way around.



in 30 years they have not found a body which they have specifically been searching for, which they both claim to have "seen", yet cannot tell if it is a star, a planet, or a comet, does not reflect light, does not emit heat, and most important we do not need this object to calculate the orbits of the other objects in our system.

i have never seen data so confused as this, including that for bodies far more distant than this one. i am open to any possibility but i remain skeptical in this instance.
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Actually, while pursuing links from the really cool Longshot post above I just learned that there is a dwarf planet thing that has a seriously long and elliptical orbit ranging from 76AU to a whopping 937AU and an orbit of 11,400 years. It's supposedly outside of the gravitational influence of any known object in our solar system.

I'm amazed that after what I thought we knew about the universe that we still aren't sure about our own (relatively) very very very solar system. It's actually cool to think about the countless discoveries that we have yet to make but appear to be getting closer.
 
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