Scientists: A major Southern California Quake likely in the next 5 months..

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Scientists Predict Major SoCal Quake Within Five Months

POSTED: 3:07 pm PST April 1, 2004
UPDATED: 9:38 pm PST April 1, 2004

LOS ANGELES -- A state earthquake council has given a qualified endorsement to a prediction by a group of scientists who believe that a temblor of magnitude-6.4 or greater will occur in the Southern California desert sometime in the next five months.

The California Earthquake Prediction Evaluation Council, a group of eight scientists selected by the state Office of Emergency Services, said it considers the new prediction by the scientists to be "a legitimate approach in earthquake prediction research."

Despite its support the panel noted in a report that "the physical basis for the prediction has not been substantiated."

The team of scientists at the University of California, Los Angeles, predict that a quake will occur within a 12,000-square-mile area east of Los Angeles by Sept. 5. The zone includes a large swath of the Mojave Desert, the Coachella Valley, the Imperial Valley and eastern San Diego County.

The area was the location of the magnitude-7.3 Landers earthquake in 1992 and the 7.1 Hector Mine quake in 1999.

The zone is so seismically active that the council noted in its report that the chances of an earthquake of at least magnitude-6.4 occurring randomly in the area sometime before the Sept. 5 deadline is about 10 percent.

The council concluded that the results do not warrant any special public policy actions in California. Such actions could include warnings to the public or alerts issued to utilities to help them prevent disruptions in service.

The scientists piqued interest after they forecast the magnitude-6.5 San Simeon quake in December and the magnitude-8.1 quake last year off Japan's Hokkaido island. In both cases, the group set wide parameters in place and time.

The team bases its predictions on long chains of small earthquakes recorded in the area.

"In the vicinity of each such chain, we look backward and see its history over the preceding years -- whether our candidate (for an earthquake) was preceded by certain seismicity patterns," said lead team scientist Vladimir Keilis-Borok. "If yes, we accept the candidate as a short-term precursor and start a nine-month alarm."

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Mallow

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Good Luck you californians. Stay off the double decker freeways is all I can suggest.
 

neovan

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Originally posted by: Mallow
Good Luck you californians. Stay off the double decker freeways is all I can suggest.

haha...everytime i drive under a freeway overpass, i speed by. after seeing those images from the previous earthquake, i just don't want to end my life by being crushed by a falling freeway.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Man, where will we put all the freaks when CA finally falls off?
I guess they would all have to stay put in the Midwest and Texas!

 

Syringer

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Hmm, I'm leaving here from school on June 17 and won't come back until Sept 20 or so. Any time in between then will be fine :)
 

Syringer

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And beside in a well developed place like Southern California is this really something to be scared of?
 

TheNinja

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"The zone is so seismically active that the council noted in its report that the chances of an earthquake of at least magnitude-6.4 occurring randomly in the area sometime before the Sept. 5 deadline is about 10 percent."

Boy, they sound pretty sure of themselves. I will go out on a limb and say that an earthquake of at least magnitude 5.3 hitting northern california in the next 6 months is about about a 8.3% chance. I'm not quite as sure about myself as the "experts".
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by: Syringer
And beside in a well developed place like Southern California is this really something to be scared of?

Well developed = lots of stuff to fall on you. If an earthquake happend I think I'd rather be out in the middle of the desert. At least my apartment building is fairly small (2 stories w/8 apartments). I'd hate to be in a taller building when a big earthquake hit.


Lethal


Anyone here in LA during the Northridge quake? what was that like?
 

DrPizza

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I've felt a minor tremor once or twice (NY), but never a knock you off your feet earthquake... I'd love to experience one, as long as I was outside away from anything that'd fall on my head.
 

nodoubts2k

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
I've felt a minor tremor once or twice (NY), but never a knock you off your feet earthquake... I'd love to experience one, as long as I was outside away from anything that'd fall on my head.

When was there ever a tremor?
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: nodoubts2k
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I've felt a minor tremor once or twice (NY), but never a knock you off your feet earthquake... I'd love to experience one, as long as I was outside away from anything that'd fall on my head.

When was there ever a tremor?

NY got a few that also affected southern Ontario. This would have been maybe 10-12 years ago. I remember them.
 

PoPPeR

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One of these days an earthquake is going to kill me. I was in the 89 bay area one and the 99 Taiwan one

Not fun stuff once they get deadly
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: PoPPeR
One of these days an earthquake is going to kill me. I was in the 89 bay area one and the 99 Taiwan one

Not fun stuff once they get deadly

where you at? so I know to stay as far away from you as possible ;)
 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: Syringer
And beside in a well developed place like Southern California is this really something to be scared of?

Well developed = lots of stuff to fall on you. If an earthquake happend I think I'd rather be out in the middle of the desert. At least my apartment building is fairly small (2 stories w/8 apartments). I'd hate to be in a taller building when a big earthquake hit.


Lethal


Anyone here in LA during the Northridge quake? what was that like?

i was waken up by it, but i was more annoyed than "oh wtf earthquake oh shiet!!" ...more like "damn it i want to sleep, hurry up and stop". I lived pretty far away from northridge (approx 1 hour drive time) at the time, so the house had only minor damage. People in northridge had to go one for a week or two w/o electricity and water :Q
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Man, where will we put all the freaks when CA finally falls off?

Maybe that will also lower the gas prices here in NV

 

PoPPeR

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Man, where will we put all the freaks when CA finally falls off?
personally I'm going to sue the United States of America for emotional distress then spend the rest of my life in Vegas
 

Linflas

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Didn't they accelerate programs to quake proof the remaining elevated freeways after the Nimitz Freeway collapse? Overall California has an excellent record in their efforts to try and minimize the effects of earthquakes. Just compare the casualty totals there vs other places where little or no effort is expended.