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SCIENCE: Fossil shows baby dinosaur in mammal's belly

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No Lifer
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/s...the.best.ap/index.html
DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- Villagers digging in China's rich fossil beds have uncovered the preserved remains of a tiny dinosaur in the belly of a mammal, a startling discovery for scientists who have long believed early mammals couldn't possibly attack and eat a dinosaur.

Scientists say the animal's last meal probably is the first proof that mammals hunted small dinosaurs some 130 million years ago. It contradicts conventional evolutionary theory that early mammals were timid, chipmunk-sized creatures that scurried in the looming shadow of the giant reptiles.

In this case, the mammal was about the size of a large cat, and the victim was a 5-inch "parrot dinosaur."

A second mammal fossil found at the same site claims the distinction of being the largest early mammal ever found. It's about the size of a modern dog, a breathtaking 20 times larger than most mammals living in the early Cretaceous Period.

Considering the specimens in tandem, scientists suggest the period in which these animals lived may have been much different than is commonly understood as the Age of Dinosaurs, a time dominated by long-necked, 85-ton plant-eaters and the emergence of terrifying hunters with bladelike teeth and sickle claws.

It appears that at least some smaller dinosaurs had to look over their shoulders for snarling, meat-eating mammals claiming the same turf.

"This new evidence gives us a drastically new picture," said paleontologist Meng Jin of the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, a co-author of the study in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.

Other scientists who did not work on the bones described the discoveries as "exhilarating."

"This size range really has surprised everybody," said Zhexi Luo of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh, who digs in the same area of northeast China. "It dispels the conventional wisdom."

The fossils were found more than two years ago in Liaoning province. The specimens were taken to a Beijing lab, where they were cleaned and analyzed by Chinese and American scientists.

The dinosaur-eater belongs to a species called Repenomamus robustus, known previously from skull fragments.

This squat, toothy specimen is more complete; lying on its side, it measures a little less than 2 feet (60 centimeters) long, and probably weighed about 15 pounds (7 kilos).

On R. robustus' left side and under the ribs in the location of its stomach are the fragmented remains of a very young Psittacosaurus.

This common, fast-moving plant-eater is known as the "parrot dinosaur" because it had a small head with a curved, horny beak. Its arms were much shorter than its legs. Adults grew to be 6 feet (1.8 meters) long, but the one that was devoured was just 5 inches (13 centimeters).

The remains still are recognizable, indicating that R. robustus ripped its prey like a crocodile, but probably had not developed the ability to chew food like more advanced mammals.

"We can still see articulated limb bones," Meng said. "It must have swallowed food in large hunks without being chewed."

The larger, second fossil also is a Repenomamus, but considerably larger. It measures more than 3 feet (90 meters) long and probably weighed more than 30 pounds (13.6 kilos). Scientists have named it R. giganticus.

It weighed 20 times more than most of the 290 known early mammal species, Meng said. Its head is 50 percent larger than R. robustus and its body was larger than some dinosaurs living in the region.

Being so much larger means that R. giganticus probably behaved differently to most other early mammals, which ate insects and seeds. A larger mammal could roam and hunt aggressively, preying on young dinosaurs.

"Giganticus is in a league by itself," Luo said. "It's the world champion so far for body mass in any Mesozoic mammal."

This new class of predatory mammals has set off new speculation.

Originally, scientists believed that mammals remained small because larger dinosaurs were hunting them. Only after dinosaurs went extinct by 65 million years ago did surviving mammals begin to grow larger, they reasoned.

Now, the presence of larger mammals is reversing some of the speculation. The Liaoning region already is famous for its trove of small feathered dinosaurs and early birds.

"Maybe small dinosaurs got larger or got off the ground to avoid rapacious mammals," wonders Duke University paleontologist Anne Weil.

Equally mysterious is how these specimens died in the same area at the same time. Neither shows evidence of being hunted itself.

The Yixian rock formation in which their bones were encased was a combination of river sediments and volcanic ash called tuff. The formation also includes the fossils of insects, frogs and other creatures, suggesting a mass die-off.

"It's possible that poisonous volcanic gas killed the animals when they were sleeping," Meng said. "Then there was a catastrophic explosion that buried the whole thing."
Just goes to show we learn more and more each day. Someday, all of the pieces will be filled but that's not going to be in our lifetimes.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
What do you think dinosaur flesh tastes like? Do you think it tastes like chicken?

I think it tasteslikechicken and is equally prehistoric. *rim shot* I'll be here all week folks...
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: tweakmm
What do you think dinosaur flesh tastes like? Do you think it tastes like chicken?

I think it tasteslikechicken and is equally prehistoric. *rim shot* I'll be here all week folks...
All week?

Mummy and da-da lock the basement door again?

*rim shot*

:laugh:


Oh, and btw, since the theory holds that all birds are evolved from dinosaurs, it would seem all birds would taste like chicken. Even, for your info...hawk.
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: tweakmm
What do you think dinosaur flesh tastes like? Do you think it tastes like chicken?

I think it tasteslikechicken and is equally prehistoric. *rim shot* I'll be here all week folks...
All week?

Mummy and da-da lock the basement door again?

*rim shot*

:laugh:


Oh, and btw, since the theory holds that all birds are evolved from dinosaurs, it would seem all birds would taste like chicken. Even, for your info...hawk.
You know it's odd, for no things foul that purportedly taste like chicken, the myriad foul typically eaten present day really taste nothing alike, and nothing except for chicken tastes like chicken.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: tweakmm
What do you think dinosaur flesh tastes like? Do you think it tastes like chicken?

I think it tasteslikechicken and is equally prehistoric. *rim shot* I'll be here all week folks...
All week?

Mummy and da-da lock the basement door again?

*rim shot*

:laugh:


Oh, and btw, since the theory holds that all birds are evolved from dinosaurs, it would seem all birds would taste like chicken. Even, for your info...hawk.
You know it's odd, for no things foul that purportedly taste like chicken, the myriad foul typically eaten present day really taste nothing alike, and nothing except for chicken tastes like chicken.
Au contrair. Squab, quail, and even duck taste a bit like chicken and they are all fowl.

But I agree that hawk would more than likely be foul tasting. 😉
 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: tweakmm
What do you think dinosaur flesh tastes like? Do you think it tastes like chicken?

I think it tasteslikechicken and is equally prehistoric. *rim shot* I'll be here all week folks...
All week?

Mummy and da-da lock the basement door again?

*rim shot*

:laugh:


Oh, and btw, since the theory holds that all birds are evolved from dinosaurs, it would seem all birds would taste like chicken. Even, for your info...hawk.
You know it's odd, for no things foul that purportedly taste like chicken, the myriad foul typically eaten present day really taste nothing alike, and nothing except for chicken tastes like chicken.
Au contrair. Squab, quail, and even duck taste a bit like chicken and they are all fowl.

But I agree that hawk would more than likely be foul tasting. 😉

Agreed, stringy with an oily aftertaste:frown:
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
"Ohh look, it must be my stalker again." :roll:
Someday you'll learn that yanking my chain starts my engine, little boy. And you simply don't have the guns to play with us "prehistoric" types.

Ta ta.

 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Someday you'll learn that yanking my chain starts my engine, little boy.

😕

Are you saying you are a child molester? Or that you get easily bothered by "children'? Either way, that is sad. This is my last post on this topic so as not to help you and pliablemoose turn this into a flame-session. Cheers.
 
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Someday you'll learn that yanking my chain starts my engine, little boy.

😕

Are you saying you are a child molester? Or that you get easily bothered by "children'? Either way, that is sad. This is my last post on this topic so as not to help you and pliablemoose turn this into a flame-session. Cheers.

So you admit you're a child. No surprise there whatsoever.

Glad you're leaving this thread since you originated this flamefest with your smarmy comment. Buh-bye.

Back on topic:

The paleontology world must be turned on its ear right now. The premise has always been that mammals during the time of dinosuars were small, rodent type animals that were primarily nocturnal and were simple foragers, or scavengers at best.

It's good to see a science field get a swift kick in the butt and rude awakening occasionally.
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I have to admit, the term "Jesus horses" (when referring to dino's) makes me smile😀
Hehe. Sometimes Jimmy Fallon can issue some real zingers.

"Officials in Georgia have mandated that schools continue to use the word evolution when teaching science. However, as a compromise, dinosaurs are now called 'Jesus horses'." -- Jimmy Fallon, Saturday Night Live, 21 Feb 04

 
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: tweakmm
What do you think dinosaur flesh tastes like? Do you think it tastes like chicken?

I think it tasteslikechicken and is equally prehistoric. *rim shot* I'll be here all week folks...
All week?

Mummy and da-da lock the basement door again?

*rim shot*

:laugh:


Oh, and btw, since the theory holds that all birds are evolved from dinosaurs, it would seem all birds would taste like chicken. Even, for your info...hawk.
You know it's odd, for no things foul that purportedly taste like chicken, the myriad foul typically eaten present day really taste nothing alike, and nothing except for chicken tastes like chicken.
Au contrair. Squab, quail, and even duck taste a bit like chicken and they are all fowl.

But I agree that hawk would more than likely be foul tasting. 😉
I've never had squab, but I do not think that quaill and duck taste like chicken they are way way too gamey.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Just when scientists think they know everything, they get to learn something new...

Ummm... when did scientists ever claim to know everything? And I really hope you are not trying to make some slight at evolution...
 
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