BTW, shouldnt you single guys be more worried about having more fish in the sea, rather then more fat fish in the sea? cummon!
ohtwell
Lifer
- Jan 6, 2002
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I say nay! Eating candy at school isn't contributing to obesity as much as children not exercising and eating well at home.
Candy is not the problem. Laziness is. I have rewarded my students with candy in my classroom and I see nothing wrong with it. I also make sure that while at school my students are active and not sedintary. I have no control over what happens at home, and in my opinion home is generally where the real problems lie. Kids these days go home, eat a snack, and sit in front of the TV, computer, or on a sofa playing a video game. They aren't active!!
: ) Amanda
Candy is not the problem. Laziness is. I have rewarded my students with candy in my classroom and I see nothing wrong with it. I also make sure that while at school my students are active and not sedintary. I have no control over what happens at home, and in my opinion home is generally where the real problems lie. Kids these days go home, eat a snack, and sit in front of the TV, computer, or on a sofa playing a video game. They aren't active!!
: ) Amanda
Lacking self control is bad. Thankfully I realized I was eating a bit too much when i only went 15-17 pounds overweight and quickly lost the weight. I dropped 4 pant sizes and my face is nice and slim w00t!
Yeah its just that many kids (dont know about majority) have fast metabolism so when they are small they can eat many calories and things full of fat and not gain much weight but when they get older they pay the price.
Yeah its just that many kids (dont know about majority) have fast metabolism so when they are small they can eat many calories and things full of fat and not gain much weight but when they get older they pay the price.
wheresmybacon
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- Sep 10, 2004
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Hence the word "vigorous". If kids aren't trying to the best of their ability, grade them as such. LOL @ people failing PE.
middlehead
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I eat great food. I frequent all the great restaurants in the Beverley Hills area (Matsuhisa, Morton's, Ruth's Chris) and all the sushi and ramen places on Sawtelle... Every time I go travel, I eat the best stuff. I love food, don't get me wrong. But it has to be done right. The saying, "You are what you eat" is so true, but it's not emphasized enough. There should not be any obese kids around. No excuses. Besides, since when do snickers bars, butterfingers, chik-filet burgers, "personal size" pan pizzas, and curley fries constitute "some great food".
And to the people arguing it is up to the parents to teach children what and how to eat... if you're going to say that, then I shall posit: why send them to school at all. Control every aspect of their education and do it at home. School is more than just a place for book learning, it's an environment where children spend roughly 50% of their waking hours at.
My school is banning candy and soda for the first time next year. Don't really have an opinion on it, but either way, it's good for me to help my lack of self control 
.
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DrPizza
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Once upon a time, nearly 30 years ago, kids weren't spoiled... they didn't have fistfuls of dollars to blow on all the junkfood that they do today. They were happy if they had a little bit of change and could buy some penny candy at the corner grocery store. Times have changed, kids get whatever they want, kids get freakin huge allowances that they didn't earn, and kids don't save their money - they blow it on junk food (among other things)
Yes, because banning something is -always- the solution!
The complaint is that schools are now offering a la carte programs that serve up unhealty foods such as pizza, chick nuggets, fries, wings etc, in place of more "traditional nutritionally balanced school meals". While that is true, the concept that the traditional school lunch is nutritionally balanced is a total crock of BS. That crap they serve to kids is pulled from cans, dry pack boxes and frozen preserved vats that are purchased en masse, about as nutritional as a TV dinner. You take some slop, toss some gree dye in it and bam, you have a serving of veggies! Mabey kids don't want to eat that stuff because it tastes and looks awful.
So parents want schools to offer up more healthy fare and fresh produce. Well that costs a LOT of MONEY, much more than many parents are willing to spend. Unless you live in a fairly wealthy school district chances are the kids arn't going to get served fresh cut vegetables, lean meats and fresh fruits. Well if you want your kids to eat well in school then someone is going to have to foot the bill, which means the tax payers. Then when it comes time for the school budget vote, the taxpayers shoot down the budget, screaming that it's going to cost too much! So it's damned if you do, damned it you don't for the schools. So little jimmy gets fat because he stuffs his face with crap all day. Where is the parenting?
The problem is that the powers that be and the constituents of their respective districts spend more time and money trying to ban and limit what is in schools, instead of actually spending the money on what they really want (but apparently don't know). These schools get a lot of revenue from selling kids these sodas, candy bars, pizza and chips. They also get money from the vendors who pay the schools money to carry specific brands in the school. The taxpayers need to open their wallets to cover thoes revenues as well as pay for the healthy foods they apparently want their children to eat (but really don't show it through their actions at home or in the voting booths). Then there is good ole fashion parenting.
For you guys saying that kids are lacking in self-control, well NO SH!T SHERLOCK, they are kids! I'm sure that all of you claiming a childs self-control is the problem were eating a diet formed by a nutritionist, working out everyday and following all the rules, yea thats the ticket! Kids will be kids, and many of you arn't so far removed from being a child in school. I don't understand how you turn your back on that so quickly, trying to fein being a grown up and mature, get over it.
The complaint is that schools are now offering a la carte programs that serve up unhealty foods such as pizza, chick nuggets, fries, wings etc, in place of more "traditional nutritionally balanced school meals". While that is true, the concept that the traditional school lunch is nutritionally balanced is a total crock of BS. That crap they serve to kids is pulled from cans, dry pack boxes and frozen preserved vats that are purchased en masse, about as nutritional as a TV dinner. You take some slop, toss some gree dye in it and bam, you have a serving of veggies! Mabey kids don't want to eat that stuff because it tastes and looks awful.
So parents want schools to offer up more healthy fare and fresh produce. Well that costs a LOT of MONEY, much more than many parents are willing to spend. Unless you live in a fairly wealthy school district chances are the kids arn't going to get served fresh cut vegetables, lean meats and fresh fruits. Well if you want your kids to eat well in school then someone is going to have to foot the bill, which means the tax payers. Then when it comes time for the school budget vote, the taxpayers shoot down the budget, screaming that it's going to cost too much! So it's damned if you do, damned it you don't for the schools. So little jimmy gets fat because he stuffs his face with crap all day. Where is the parenting?
The problem is that the powers that be and the constituents of their respective districts spend more time and money trying to ban and limit what is in schools, instead of actually spending the money on what they really want (but apparently don't know). These schools get a lot of revenue from selling kids these sodas, candy bars, pizza and chips. They also get money from the vendors who pay the schools money to carry specific brands in the school. The taxpayers need to open their wallets to cover thoes revenues as well as pay for the healthy foods they apparently want their children to eat (but really don't show it through their actions at home or in the voting booths). Then there is good ole fashion parenting.
For you guys saying that kids are lacking in self-control, well NO SH!T SHERLOCK, they are kids! I'm sure that all of you claiming a childs self-control is the problem were eating a diet formed by a nutritionist, working out everyday and following all the rules, yea thats the ticket! Kids will be kids, and many of you arn't so far removed from being a child in school. I don't understand how you turn your back on that so quickly, trying to fein being a grown up and mature, get over it.
whats wrong with tofu and soy milk? both very delicious when served appropriately... but thats not the point here is it?
and great food can be healthy too. unfortunately most parents dont have enough time to cook healthy meals
drinkmorejava
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- Jun 24, 2004
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wtf, not letting them buy candy in school isn't going to help anything if they're to stupid to either have self control or see that it's making them fat. Seriously people if they're going to fsck themselves up from their own stupidity, trying to protect them isn't going to help.
ok, that's one candy I could deffinitely support banning. Probably tastes like crap anyway
As for my original response: If schools ban candy, wtf are the kids going to annoy all their relatives with when it comes time to do fundraisers?
Nate
My school stopped selling candy during school hours, but sold it before classes began and after they ended. It was really stupid. People just brought there own and sold it to the kids. Cheaper candy and the school looking retarded FTW.
HamburgerBoy
Lifer
- Apr 12, 2004
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The little fat bastards will manage to sneak snickers in anyways, so there's no point in banning them.
For once, I agree with you. The world is going to end now.
School lunches where I went to HS have now apparently tripled in price, they've banned soda and french fries, and yet, the food is the same old slop, minus the french fries, which weren't even fried, they were just baked potatos, which were actually the healthiest item on the damned menu. They were actually pretty fvcking good, and were the only thing in that cafeteria I could stand to LOOK AT, much less eat.
After going to school there for a year or two, I became violently ill whenever I was in the cafeteria. The smell was just overwhelming - the industrial cleaning solution combined with the rotting county-approved healthy food created a terrible cocktail. If a class was moved to the cafeteria because of rennovations (which often occured,) I had to skip the class. I couldn't go to any dances except homecoming and prom - they were all held in the cafeteria.
The pizza can be equated to a cardboard-like cracker with moldy melted cheese on top, and optionally near-uncooked pepperoni on top - it arrived pre-prepared, in 4x3ft sheets. In fact, it was actually pre-cut into rectangles. There was no crust. It wasn't cooked in an oven, it was cooked under heat lamps. The chicken nuggets and chicken patties were pulled from a freezer bag and warmed in a low-heat oven. The breads were simply kept out - never toasted, never warmed, just pulled out of a bag, almost always stale. "Fresh" vegetables for subs were dry and oft beginning to rot. The seafood salad was practically toxic.
The soft pretzels were all good and stuff - until someone accidentally topped them with a powdered industrial solvent instead of salt. Then they took those away.
The peanut butter was USDA government ration - which is actually pretty fvcking good, if you substituted the fruit that came with it (dry unripe crap) with your own.
I feel like I want to retch just thinking about that smell, really.
Instead of acknowledging the downward trend of self-control, we should be working to rectify it...in other words, make sure that people feel the full consequences of poor decisions. Maybe instead of allowing individuals to sue corporations for injuries sustained while doing stupid stuff, we should open the door for corporations to sue individuals for using their products in a stupid manner
As for how that pertains to this issue, I'd say a ban is somewhat silly. Just offering a decent, healthier alternative (heck, just sell apples or something), and grading mandatory PE classes based on effort instead of giving an automatic A, should take care of the problem.
As for how that pertains to this issue, I'd say a ban is somewhat silly. Just offering a decent, healthier alternative (heck, just sell apples or something), and grading mandatory PE classes based on effort instead of giving an automatic A, should take care of the problem.
Powermoloch
Lifer
- Jul 5, 2005
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Banning one thing will not solve the problem. Teaching the kids about nutrition and healthy eating habits starts at home.
First they need to do some controlled, peer reviewed studies to determine the effect of this decision. Does candy act as a performance enhancing drug for mental tasks? This question must be answered for each particular variety of candy to be banned before rushing to a decision.
How do you define candy? Are Reese's peanut butter cups candy? Is chocolate milk candy? Peer reviewed studies show that chocolate milk consumption immediately after exercise promotes muscle growth. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...6679981&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum
Perhaps we should mandate the drinking of chocolate milk after PE class? A snickers bar has 4 grams of protein, if you're going to ban snickers, you should ban meat from schools too, since meat tends to be much higher in saturated fats than vegetable protein sources.
There are many ways to build a balanced diet. Some of them include candy, others do not. In general I think nutritional instruction at the high school level blows. They were still teaching that old food pyramid for decades after it was known to be bad advice. At high school they should be taught to evaluate protein quality and glycemic index of foods, and shown the peer reviewed articles on why it's important.
Also school menus need better vegetarian options, like pizza with spinach, mushrooms, tomatoes, and other vegetables.
If banning soda and candy are such good ideas, then where are the peer reviewed journal articles showing that they don't benefit mental acuity? Haven't you ever felt more alert after a Mountain Dew? The first schools that implement this will see their standardized test scores drop and they won't understand why.
How do you define candy? Are Reese's peanut butter cups candy? Is chocolate milk candy? Peer reviewed studies show that chocolate milk consumption immediately after exercise promotes muscle growth. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...6679981&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum
Perhaps we should mandate the drinking of chocolate milk after PE class? A snickers bar has 4 grams of protein, if you're going to ban snickers, you should ban meat from schools too, since meat tends to be much higher in saturated fats than vegetable protein sources.
There are many ways to build a balanced diet. Some of them include candy, others do not. In general I think nutritional instruction at the high school level blows. They were still teaching that old food pyramid for decades after it was known to be bad advice. At high school they should be taught to evaluate protein quality and glycemic index of foods, and shown the peer reviewed articles on why it's important.
Also school menus need better vegetarian options, like pizza with spinach, mushrooms, tomatoes, and other vegetables.
If banning soda and candy are such good ideas, then where are the peer reviewed journal articles showing that they don't benefit mental acuity? Haven't you ever felt more alert after a Mountain Dew? The first schools that implement this will see their standardized test scores drop and they won't understand why.
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