Schools: Immigrant families leaving Arizona because of new immigration law

[spidey07]

Go Arizona, Go! It's amazing that just the possibility of illegals getting treated like criminals has them fleeing the state. Where to? CA? Mexico? This is yet more proof of a win/win situation for a free state. If other states would only enact the same laws this would be a problem that would take care of itself. Illegal means ILLEGAL!

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/28/20100528arizona-immigration-law-schools.html

Reports are surfacing around the Valley that illegal-immigrant families with school-age children are fleeing Arizona because of a new immigration law.

Some school officials say enough parents and students have told them they plan to leave the state this summer to indicate Hispanic enrollment could drop at some schools. But there's no way to know exactly how many illegal immigrants will depart because schools do not inquire about a student's or a family's legal status.

 

[Hacp]

Go Arizona, Go! It's amazing that just the possibility of illegals getting treated like criminals has them fleeing the state. Where to? CA? Mexico? This is yet more proof of a win/win situation for a free state. If other states would only enact the same laws this would be a problem that would take care of itself. Illegal means ILLEGAL!

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/28/20100528arizona-immigration-law-schools.html

For liberty and justice for all!

 

[MotF Bane]

Good.

 

[Patranus]

The title of your thread is misleading Spidey.

It should read ILLEGAL immigrant families as the current title implies that legal immigrant families are also leaving.

 

[woolfe9999]

So far all of these reports of illegals leaving over this law are anecdotal. I don't doubt that some are leaving. However, without data to know whether the number of departures is trivial or non-trivial, there is no real story here.

- wolf

 

[Patranus]

So far all of these reports of illegals leaving over this law are anecdotal. I don't doubt that some are leaving. However, without data to know whether the number of departures is trivial or non-trivial, there is no real story here.

- wolf

If I remember correctly the law hasn't even gone into effect yet so I doubt such data will be collected by government until the law is enacted.

 

[irishScott]

Good.

This. Gotta love how that article is all "ZOMG but the schools are losing their volunteers!" and "think of the children!". And then they end with a wannabe sob story. /barf

 

[cubeless]

So far all of these reports of illegals leaving over this law are anecdotal. I don't doubt that some are leaving. However, without data to know whether the number of departures is trivial or non-trivial, there is no real story here.

- wolf

the question is "who's pimping this story?"... is it the evil right to show that "it works" or the benevolent left to show "the shame"?

and maybe the reporters just didn't notice that all the kids are leaving the schools since it's the end of the school year...

 

[RbSX]

Fantastic, they can get the fuck out.

I'm not even American, and I love this law.

 

[woolfe9999]

the question is "who's pimping this story?"... is it the evil right to show that "it works" or the benevolent left to show "the shame"?

and maybe the reporters just didn't notice that all the kids are leaving the schools since it's the end of the school year...

Doesn't matter who's "pimping it" for now. Eventually some harder data will come out. For now, the information is anecdotal. It's interesting, but that's about it.

- wolf

 

[shangshang]

Good. The illegal immigrants are leaving but I expect the illegal drug dealers to stay put. They got your poh-leez by the balls there.

 

[JSt0rm]

For liberty and justice for all!

lmao... I see what you did there ^_^

 

[zylander]

Good for Arizona, bad for California, they are all probably coming here. Now if only CA could get a similar law going.

 

[Specop 007]

Should help with crowded classrooms and budget constraints. Thats just win win.

 

[PJABBER]

We had a significant exodus of illegals from the Virginia suburbs (Fairfax and Prince William Counties) of DC after the local governments realized the extent of crime originating in that population and started more rigorous criminal enforcement. The drop in job opportunities as the building boom in the area collapsed also played a big role in getting them to move, mostly to North Carolina from what I hear.

It didn't take any new law but a decision by the county governments to enforce the laws already on the books and a decision to access/participate in the ICE Secure Communities criminal identification system.

The program is voluntary and free, so I recommend that everyone concerned with illegals in their communities contact their local governments/PDs and recommend they sign up for participation ASAP.

Fairfax hands over 1,200 suspected illegal immigrants to feds

By: Brian Hughes
Washington Examiner Staff Writer
March 18, 2010

Fairfax County delivered more than 1,200 suspected illegal immigrants to federal enforcement officials in the last year, a spike attributed to an increasingly popular criminal records-sharing system.

As part of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Secure Communities program — implemented last March — the fingerprints of those arrested are compared with immigration records held by the Department of Homeland Security and FBI criminal records at no cost to the county.

"There was no program before," said Fairfax sheriff's office spokesman Sonny Cachuela. "The only way to identify them was if they told us."

Cachuela said the county turned over 836 suspected illegal immigrants to ICE in the year before the program started.

ICE deported 144 illegal immigrants arrested in the county this past year, and Cachuela said the rest are in immigration proceedings or will be removed from the country once they complete jail time.

The federal government plans to roll out the system by 2013 in "literally every single city and county in the United States," according to ICE officials.

Fairfax County was the first in the Washington area to employ the program. The District and Prince William County also use Secure Communities.

Prince William, which through the federal 287(g) program allows local law enforcement officials to enforce some federal immigration laws, has turned over more than 2,000 suspected illegals to the federal government since July 2007. In comparison, Montgomery County officials report illegals to ICE only for violent crimes.

Immigration advocates have decried 287(g) as racial profiling but protest less about turning over information from those already in jail.

Every person booked into Fairfax County's adult detention center has his fingerprints cross-referenced with the federal records.

"ICE has been able to identify illegal aliens that committed serious crimes in Fairfax County and presented a threat to our community," said Sheriff Stan Barry. "Through this program, ICE was able to deport them at no cost to Fairfax County."

 

[cubeless]

^^ wasn't that just all the dems who wanted to get appointments from bo ratting out their mexican maids and nannies after a couple got caught?

 

[PJABBER]

^^ wasn't that just all the dems who wanted to get appointments from bo ratting out their mexican maids and nannies after a couple got caught?

Only a couple of hundred fell into that category. Everybody knows this!

:awe:

 

[allthatisman]

Good for Arizona, bad for California, they are all probably coming here. Now if only CA could get a similar law going.

This... and that will never happen with the lot that is currently in the Capitol...

 

[rocadelpunk]

Should help with crowded classrooms and budget constraints. Thats just win win.

Any student illegal or not is federal money. More students in a school = more money.

Budgets have to be balanced and are based on the previous years enrollment. If 40 less kids show up next August, illegal or not, the principal will have no choice, but to cut another couple of teachers. A couple less teachers means more students per classroom.

Why AZ is having such a tough time in particular is that the legislature took away guaranteed already voted on prop301 money. Districts weren't ready to have millions of dollars taken away a few weeks ago

 

[theeedude]

We had a significant exodus of illegals from the Virginia suburbs (Fairfax and Prince William Counties) of DC after the local governments realized the extent of crime originating in that population and started more rigorous criminal enforcement. The drop in job opportunities as the building boom in the area collapsed also played a big role in getting them to move, mostly to North Carolina from what I hear.

It didn't take any new law but a decision by the county governments to enforce the laws already on the books and a decision to access/participate in the ICE Secure Communities criminal identification system.

The program is voluntary and free, so I recommend that everyone concerned with illegals in their communities contact their local governments/PDs and recommend they sign up for participation ASAP.

See, that is a good program, deporting convicts.

 

[joebloggs10]

Article doesn't mean much. It just says that they plan to "leave this summer". It does NOT say they don't plan on coming back.

Illegals in AZ, NM, and NV leave EVERY SUMMER for CA for the harvest then go back for the winter and school year.

 

[nick1985]

Article doesn't mean much. It just says that they plan to "leave this summer". It does NOT say they don't plan on coming back.

Illegals in AZ, NM, and NV leave EVERY SUMMER for CA for the harvest then go back for the winter and school year.

LOL you really think they would come back?

haha

 

[JSt0rm]

LOL you really think they would come back?

haha

For the hunt :sneaky:

 

[nick1985]

For the hunt :sneaky:

Thrill of the chase? lol

 

[shortylickens]

But there's no way to know exactly how many illegal immigrants will depart because schools do not inquire about a student's or a family's legal status.

Maybe they should have, considering its a tax funded enterprise.

This is ridiculous. I am positive my school had my SSN on file when I was enrolled.
Is this another bank situation? You are REQUIRED to give them a social, unless you choose the spanish line in which case they dont even ask for it.

As for PJABBER's post: I live in Prince William County and it seems there more illegals here now than ever before. Scary there might actually be less.